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offline Combo from Sex on 2006-02-05 16:49 [#01835460]
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these things began to be really scary

A danish embassy has been burned in Beyrouth today and did a
mess in the Christian area of the city.


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2006-02-05 16:56 [#01835463]
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What would Mohammed do?


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2006-02-05 18:43 [#01835479]
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Wrong. The new Cat Power is really bad.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-02-06 01:04 [#01835514]
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I can't be arsed to read this whole post, but those first
couple that drunken posted seemed pretty close to the money.
Unfortunately, right now, with the way things are going in
the states, I doubt any newspaper is about to post a picture
of jesus carrying a bomb... That would end up with the
cartoonist ending up in a CIA prison somewhere in europe
being forcefully "questioned".


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2006-02-06 01:31 [#01835518]
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i dont think those that 'protest' have even bothered to
properly interpret the cartoons - surely the main message is
that terrorists are using religion? anyway, bet the
police are laughing - many as suspect has shown their face.


 

offline DeleriousWeasel from Guam on 2006-02-06 01:41 [#01835521]
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I concur!


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-06 01:41 [#01835522]
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How ironic.


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offline DeleriousWeasel from Guam on 2006-02-06 01:43 [#01835523]
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that's the funniest thing I've seen all day, what morons!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-02-06 02:23 [#01835547]
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My POV: Bunch of pricks who made the cartoon all the more
accurate by responding the way they did, thereby making the
cartoon's message not worthy of "moral outcry" and
themselves hypocrits.

Civilised (westernised?) Muslims wouldn't go off the wall at
images like this, those who did are a bunch of savages and a
good case for western imperialism.


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-06 03:42 [#01835572]
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i don't know what the paper did wrong now, they just stuck
with their actions, which is good?


 

offline DeleriousWeasel from Guam on 2006-02-06 04:04 [#01835584]
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long live free speech


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-02-06 04:19 [#01835589]
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When I said, "Bunch of pricks who made the cartoon all the
more accurate by responding the way they did, thereby making
the cartoon's message not worthy of "moral outcry" and
themselves hypocrites." I was refering to the Muslims who
went mental over it, not the newspaper.

I have a lot of respect for the newspaper for showing some
backbone and not saying the usual, "the cartoons were in bad
taste, we are most sorry for any offence it has caused and
apologise unreservedly, we've sacked a scapegoat and will
run islamic terrorist-sympathetic articles for the next 6
months to make up for it".


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-06 04:24 [#01835592]
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ooh
you forgot decapitating scapegoat


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-06 04:33 [#01835599]
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the newspapers aren't showing backbone! The editor of the
norwegian newspaper who printed the cartoons (it's a
christian newspaper, by the way) is calling the government
cowards for making him take the responsibility.. this shows
that he expected to be able to hide behind the government if
someone protested...


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-06 04:36 [#01835601]
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it doesn't show he thought that on beforehand. on the other
hand you can't blame him to feel fudged when he does. also
let's see see how cool you'd be when you get a billion death
threats


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-02-06 04:36 [#01835602]
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I'd be pissed off, but I wouldn't go out and commit a
terrorist act against a bunch of Muslims who had nothing to
do with the cartoon. Incidentally, I doubt the cartoonist(s)
was a devout Christian, per se, so their choice of revenge
target sucks balls.

There's a big difference by being offended by someones views
and going and shooting them for it, which was the point the
original cartoon made. At the risk of sound like a WWJD
fundamentalist Christian, do any of the knobbers concerned
really think Mohammed would of responded the way they did?


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-06 04:44 [#01835607]
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why is freedom of speech important?
next muslims will take the street crying out for us to ban
homosexuality because it offends them somehow
discuss


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-06 04:59 [#01835620]
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he's the editor of a christian newspaper, and he printed the
pictures AFTER there had already been protests and
commotion.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-06 05:03 [#01835622]
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the best reply in a newspaper as of yet is in fact a
cartoon.. it's called "fakta fra verden" ("Facts from the
world"). he just had a square saying "freedom of speech is
important." Then the next square said something like "we
fight for freedom of speech." And then there was a picture
of aforementioned editor. Then a picture of him looking like
hitler. Then a picture of him looking like an arab. Then a
picture of him in kiss makeup with blood running from the
sides of his mouth. (there were more captions, but I can't
remember them). Of course, due to the events as of late, he
can't get publicly angry, but at any other time, this
would've made him cry out about being harassed or
whatever...


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-06 05:06 [#01835624]
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oh i mixed up but who can keep apart all those scandinavian
countries anyway

in this case i still stand by my last two sentences


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-02-06 05:14 [#01835630]
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What Does God Say ?


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-06 07:11 [#01835693]
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looks like the danes have noticed all the fuss they have
caused

http://www.jp.dk/meninger/ncartikel:aid=3527646

meanwhile, i go to college and we have an assembly about all
this - my head of year saying "the way its going people are
going to be killed"
and i get home and there ya go - deaths in somalia protests.
this is ridiculous.


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2006-02-06 07:50 [#01835708]
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yep....it's sure nice to live in Denmark right now...sigh


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2006-02-06 07:59 [#01835711]
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he would send down lightningbolts on all extremists and
other evil people. So far it isn't happening, so either:
A: he doesn't exist
B: doesn't care or finds it amusing
C: likes evil people


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-02-06 08:04 [#01835713]
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your previous post reminded me of Are We Here? by Orbital


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2006-02-06 08:09 [#01835717]
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that's a great track. Snivilisation and In sides are my
favourite albums by orbital. I didn't like their last few
albums though


 

offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2006-02-06 08:30 [#01835724]
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haughty ragheads


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-02-06 08:39 [#01835736]
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are we here ? do we really exist ? what does god say ? why
some people on earth claim there's god and they know what
he/she says ? why some people are able to kill other people
in the name of an idea ?

etc. etc. etc.


 

offline DeleriousWeasel from Guam on 2006-02-06 08:45 [#01835739]
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http://cryptome.org/muhammad.htm

here are all the cartoons, get them while they last!

Free Speech: Fuck Yeah!


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2006-02-06 08:45 [#01835740]
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:)


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offline merg from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2006-02-06 08:46 [#01835741]
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The "people" "demonstrating" in London with placards calling
for more 9/11 type things are ABSOLUTE SCUM and should DIE
NOW...that is all...


 

offline merg from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2006-02-06 08:48 [#01835742]
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Has anyone made the point that it's perfectly valid to draw
Mohammed with a bomb as a turban if suicide bombers say they
do what they do in the name of Islam??


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-06 08:58 [#01835745]
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epohs's pic says it all...........
all the muslims i know were pissed off by these cartoons,
but all of them say this violent protesting is absolute
bollocks.
that one picture proves that conclusively.



 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-06 08:59 [#01835748]
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they arent muslims.............

the koran says stuff about being nice to people, juat like
the bible and other similar religious texts/fairy stories
do.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-06 09:09 [#01835755]
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if I blew up a hospital and then I said "merg told me to do
it," would it be correct to draw a picture of you with
childrens corpses hanging out your mouth?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-06 09:11 [#01835757]
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..I also have a feeling cs2x' and shopes images were
slightly tampered with...


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-06 09:14 [#01835761]
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no, because merge's image was funnier

this thread has taught me however that we could be more
considerate of our neighbours feelings when making jokes

final thought: someone in the paper today argued that
muslims have a monotheistic religion. therefor idoltry of
mohammed is wrong. therefor making fun of mohammed's temper
is good.D



 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2006-02-06 09:58 [#01835801]
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Sam Harris weighs in on the subject.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-06 10:39 [#01835813]
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haha, he's your hero as of late, isn't he?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-06 10:46 [#01835818]
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he seems, however, to have forgotten that there is a
difference between acting out against extremist actions and
against something the extremists support acting out against.
I don't know for sure, but I have a strong feeling that for
instance people in Iraq don't necessarily approve of the
extremist ways, but they are also very afraid of what could
happen if they went public with a critique of them.. they
could face not only their own death, but the deaths of their
loved ones. However, when a case where the extremists
support your protests, protesting is probably both a way to
let out steam otherwise suppressed and a way to feel more
secure, as the extremists are now "on your side"; you
aren't very likely to be killed.

I'm a bit tired and I have a headache, but I hope that's
coherent.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2006-02-06 11:05 [#01835831]
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but I have a strong feeling that for instance

Ha ha! Nice try, troll.


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2006-02-06 11:23 [#01835839]
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As far as I am aware those images are NOT altered. I saw
things like that in the newspaper, and they are unlikely to
photoshop it just to add more fuel to the fire...

Also if there are no pictures of Mohammed, how do they know
they are cartoons of Mohammed? Perhaps they are cartoons of
Abdul from the corner shop? And let's face it, Mohammed is a
common name amongst muslims, so does it say that they are
cartoons of the prophet Mohammed?


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2006-02-06 11:33 [#01835842]
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mohammed is the most common name in the world. but the
protesters dont understand the cartoons.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2006-02-06 11:46 [#01835850]
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the one i posted was altered.


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2006-02-06 11:58 [#01835859]
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ah well there you go. the first one isn't altered, of that
I'm quite sure... although your's is doctored, it's still
the sort of drivel they were spouting the other day.
I have to agree with Ceri JC 100% and I can't be bothered to
read any more of this. After reading the Sam Harris, I agree
with what he writes.
I see this thread becoming quite cyclic now and all I have
to say is that all those who disagree with me will be
beheaded. thankyou.
aphex akbar (god is great)


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-06 12:04 [#01835861]
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how do they know it is mohammed? the article that went with
the pictures clearly stated that they were pictures of
mohammed. the title was indeed something like "the 12 faces
of mohammed."


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-06 12:06 [#01835862]
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so you disagree, then, that not all muslims are mad killers?


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2006-02-06 12:08 [#01835864]
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In France, in Strasbourg, there's still a law saying you can
be condamned up to 3 years in jail if you blasphem againt
god.

The truth.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-06 13:56 [#01835926]
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ha, thats probably just some residual medieval law. theres
one of them near where i live - apparently it is still
technically legal to kill a welshman with a longbow in a
particular street near Hereford cathedral.


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2006-02-06 14:29 [#01835941]
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I don't think mohammed would want anything to do with this
fucking nonsense.


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