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offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-04 04:01 [#01834159]
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i might just draw a pic of mohammed having sex with a small
white boy whilst smoking crack,do you think that might
bother em-i fucking hope so twats


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-04 04:08 [#01834160]
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I think you may well get a jihad on your ass...


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-04 04:13 [#01834161]
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fuck em


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-04 04:49 [#01834163]
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hanal for xlt free speech martyr :)


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-04 05:04 [#01834164]
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Freedom of Speech, that's some motherfuckin' bullshit
You say the wrong thing, they'll lock your ass up quick
The FCC says "Profanity - No Airplay"?
They can suck my dick while I take a shit all day
Think I give a fuck about some silly bitch named Gore?
Yo PMRC, here we go, raw
Yo Tip, what's the matter? You ain't gettin' no dick?
You're bitchin' about rock'n'roll, that's censorship, dumb
bitch
The Constitution says we all got a right to speak
Say what we want Tip, your argument is weak
Censor records, TV, school books too
And who decides what's right to hear? You?
Hey PMRC, you stupid fuckin' assholes
The sticker on the record is what makes 'em sell gold
Can't you see, you alcoholic idiots
The more you try to suppress us, the larger we get

[Verse 2]

[You have the right to remain silent]
Fuck that right! I want the right to talk
I want the right to speak, I want the right to walk
Where I wanna, yell and I'm gonna
Tell and rebel every time I'm on a
Microphone on the stage cold illin'
The knowledge I drop will be heard by millions
We ain't the problems, we ain't the villains
It's the suckers deprivin' the truth from our children
You can't hide the fact, Jack
There's violence in the streets every day, any fool can
recognise that
But you try to lie and lie
And say America's some motherfuckin' apple pie
Yo, you gotta be high to believe that
You're gonna change the world by a sticker on a record
sleeve
Cos once you take away my right to speak
Everybody in the world's up shit creek

[Verse 3]

Let me tell you about down south
Where a motherfucker might as well not even have a mouth
Columbus, Georgia, said they'd lock me up
If I got on the stage in my show and said "Fuck"
So I thought for a minute and said "No,
I wasn't even gonna do a damned show"
Cos for me to change my words from my rhymes
Is never gonna happen cos there's no sell outs on mine
But I vowed to get those motherfuckers one day
They even arrested Bobby Brown and Cool J


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-04 05:13 [#01834167]
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yes it is just one paper
it is therefor a brave things that other papers have
published the pictures too, out of protest against threats
against freedom of speech and out of solidarity: the crazy
muslims (you know i mean the fundamentalists) can't solve
the things now by just blowing up one editorial staff
so the papers didn't just publish the pictures just to
unnessarily provoke those poor muslims as drunken mastah
said in his first posts

dm wrote:
"I don't want disagreement with my point, I don't really
know
if there was one. I want someone who actually could
sympathise with the Muslims or at least someone with some
more insight into Islam who could provide explanations or
see it from "their" view. I want someone who doesn't just
agree with everyone else."

ah ok that's nice, but i and i presume most of us, are able
to imagine the other side of the argument

will read more later on



 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-04 05:17 [#01834168]
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today i read this joke had be published:
mohammed on cloud with all these suicide bombers waiting in
line:
"yea, sorry we're out of virgins"

mocking the virgins in heaven things is always funny :)


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-04 05:19 [#01834170]
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yes they do, it's what caused reformation back in 1517 :)


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-04 05:23 [#01834171]
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and why publish this filth?
because we don't yet live in a dulled down totalitarian
state where humour has been forbidden


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2006-02-04 05:25 [#01834173]
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religious people = bunch of twats imho


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2006-02-04 05:27 [#01834175]
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I think that we should be able to depict anybody but :
Mohammed is a character of their book and it's written
in their fucking book that depicting Mohammed is
forbidden. So why provoke them ? We all know that they are
not reasonnable people.


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-04 05:41 [#01834180]
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yes, i must say i haven't agreed with theo van gogh ever, he
was highly obnoxious

and you are right, but as said, it was just a joke, i don't
see why in this case you have to bring the responsibility
things into it: the cartoon isn't that kicking against the
shins (hitting below the belt, whatever phrase)
i guess muslims truely haven't understood the the function
of these paper cartoons

sueing over this im glad wont get the sueer anywhere im
happy to say, at least that's what something awful taught me.
i believe 12 johny cochranes couldn't prove this is libel or
something

yay im done reading the thread, what grade to i get guys?
sorry if i got over a bit frustrated in my replies there,
but i am, i get like this a bit when i sleep to much

love, peace and understanding from hippie big


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2006-02-04 05:47 [#01834186]
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religion

again

conicidence?

Lenin spank'em!!!


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2006-02-04 05:49 [#01834189]
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Btw don't forget that these fucking extremist muslims are
just a little minority of bastard, and the majority of
muslims are not better neither than us. But this minority
controls medias and lead people to do what they wouln't do
alone, eg. demonstrating, protesting strongly. Be careful of
the fanatists.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2006-02-04 05:53 [#01834192]
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*not better neither worse


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-04 06:16 [#01834210]
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yea, in gaza 50000 thousand went on the streets, palestine
is a whole county of these people

apparantly dutch muslims are pissed too
america (head dep of foreign affairs: not necessarily bad
but phrased like it comes from a retard) agrees with
muslims, great brittain doesn't speak

maybe however this will be good for the future of relations
between the west and the muslim countries, like we gotta get
to some agreement


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2006-02-04 06:27 [#01834213]
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The funny fact is that even the US governement blames Europe
for the cartoons.


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-04 06:28 [#01834214]
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lol


 

offline grinningcat from london (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-04 06:31 [#01834215]
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i think stewart lee (creator of jerry springer opera + this
mornin with richard not judy) hit it on the head:

"When you satirise something, you need to at least give it
the credit of understanding it. The cartoon in which the
Prophet is trying to stop suicide bombers entering the
afterlife because they have run out of virgins has a kind of
political point behind it. But I don't think they really
appreciated the massive taboo you cross by portraying the
image of Muhammad. There is really no historical precedent
for it.

They have tried to deal with a subject they don't know
enough about, and this is one of the teething problems of
the cross-over of cultures in the world. I'm sure the level
of offence is far greater than would have been intended.

I look forward to a point where we can live in a genuinely
multicultural society when people know enough about each
other's faiths and culture to be able to satirise these
things from an informed position.

In Jerry Springer - The Opera, we were looking for a story
that could be commonly understood in a Christian context. In
the West, Christianity relinquished the right to be
protective of its icons the day Virgin Mary snow globes were
put up for sale at the Vatican.

But in the Islamic culture it is very different. To use a
corporate image, Islam has always been a lot more
conscientious about protecting its brand and as a satirist
you need to engage with it on its own terms. That's what we
did with Jerry Springer with the Christian religion. "


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-04 06:32 [#01834216]
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this is the latest incarnation of shit in this world -
everywhere, people seem to be becoming less tolerant and
more ignorant. thats what started this whole fundamentalist
islamic terrorism crap, and its being fed further by growing
intolerance and ignorance here in the West.

a civilised global tolerant multicultural society just
doesnt seem possible anymore. oh, where did it all go
wrong.....................


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-04 06:35 [#01834220]
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definding these fuckers in any way is wrong imo


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-04 06:36 [#01834221]
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my world is simple :)


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-04 06:36 [#01834222]
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the world seems hopelessly fucked up of late


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-04 06:38 [#01834225]
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just nipping out to the post office,anybody want anything
while im out.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-04 06:38 [#01834226]
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that was not a random post as i try to hit 5k


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-04 06:39 [#01834227]
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sex please


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-04 06:39 [#01834228]
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or this


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-04 06:39 [#01834229]
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with or without baby oil


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2006-02-04 06:40 [#01834231]
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TV ?


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-04 06:44 [#01834236]
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sprinkels on top


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2006-02-04 06:46 [#01834237]
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The "muslim world" needs to grow up. It is now the 21st
century.
There are newspapers in muslim countries that are just as
offensive to christians and jews with cartoons, but they
don't storm embassies and demand apologies at gunpoint.

The traditional muslim world was highly scientifically
advanced but at somepoint it became bad to be open to new
ideas and now they have regressed. I'm sure if they went
back a thousand years they would actaully be more advanced
in their attitudes.

It seems a bit pathetic threatening bombs and jihad over
some cartoons, I mean what would they threaten if people
actually did something really bad to them.....er more bombs
and er death to infidels?
So surely if you've published cartoons, you've got nothing
to loose by going one step further and denouncing the whole
religion?


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-04 06:47 [#01834240]
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its in the post,you will have to sign for it.


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-04 06:52 [#01834245]
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with my penis im sure!


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-04 06:55 [#01834246]
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yes,and take pics and post on xl after


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-04 06:55 [#01834248]
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thw whole world has to fucking grow up. anyone who holds an
unshakeable literalist fundamental belief in any faith needs
to grow up.


 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2006-02-04 06:56 [#01834249]
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its not as if all muslims are agaisnst this. most of the
ones i know are just sitting with their head in their hands.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-04 07:01 [#01834254]
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hopefully

but after seeing the huge crowds all over the world bearing
"allah will annihilate europe" placards, i wonder how many
true, sane muslims there are left in the world


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-04 07:05 [#01834258]
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we are in the 21st century. They are not. I'm not
saying they're any less developed than us, but using "the
21st century" as some sort of "by now we should all be 100%
civilised" just doesn't work. there's been lots of silly war
and similar things as of late, and I wouldn't really say
we've been any more civilised than they have... we're
probably just being shown the bad sides because that's what
"sells." Sure, there are thousands of muslims protesting,
but I believe only a minority of them are extremists (like
only a minority of christians harass (and occasionally kill)
abortion doctors and gays). However, when there's a small
red moving loudspeaker on a large uniform grey loudspeaker
that doesn't move, the camera (and the eye) focuses on the
moving red one; that's where the action is.

"In todays news: thousands of muslims are peaceful!"

vs

"In todays news: Threats of war from the muslim world!"

now imagine being on the other side.

"In todays news: Many danish people didn't publish
the cartoons"

vs

"In todays news: Danish newspaper mocks the prophet
Muhammed!"

of course anyone would get upset, and as a result of that,
there are people walking in the streets protesting and
burning flags, but just because the red speaker and the
white one are in the same room doesn't make them the same.


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-04 07:06 [#01834261]
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as i stated in [#01834210] i think most of the muslims are
pissed about these pictures


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-04 07:07 [#01834262]
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I wonder if it isn't you, with your lack of respect for what
other people believe, who has to grow up...


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-04 07:08 [#01834264]
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pissed, yes.

raging maniacs, no.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-02-04 07:09 [#01834265]
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"We, as Muslims oppose and condemn the publishing of mocking
cartoon images of God and the Prophet Muhammad (p) in the
European newspapers. We demand an immediate and
unconditional apology by those countries. The smearing
campaign against all prophets, not just Prophet Muhammad(p)
should be condemned by people of all faith."

clicked on the banner.

such an angry religion.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-02-04 07:10 [#01834266]
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this banner. oops


Attached picture

 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-04 07:11 [#01834267]
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people with literalist fundamentalist beliefs always have an
intolerance of other religions, because they believe their
own is right and others are wrong. this is the attitude that
is so dangerous.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-04 07:13 [#01834269]
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i ALWAYS respect what other people believe, unless that
belief is one of blatant and deliberate hostility to someone
elses beliefs.


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-04 07:15 [#01834270]
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i disagree with your whole outlook on this and i think you
could fall into the category 'really left because he can be
living in a privilaged situation (like me btw)'.

i mean: wtf, so the west has commited terrible crimes so
it's only fair the muslim words can have it's share now?

newspapers are covering this because people want to know
about this, including the muslims who go on the streets with
1000s to be heard (good thing btw)

i don't enjoy intellectually sparring over this however,
sorry, so i'll leave it to r40f



 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-04 07:18 [#01834272]
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k, most are pissed and that's ok, they should let know how
they feel and change things by that

but way too many, a really small percentage, are making
death threats and planning to cary them out

i don't feel like being rational or apoligetic about that
last thing at all because some people are living in fear
because of this


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2006-02-04 07:26 [#01834277]
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Are you saying they are DARK SIDED?


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-02-04 07:29 [#01834278]
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perfect example of the effect of religion on stupid hicks


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-02-04 07:30 [#01834279]
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i know, as i already said that, you are trying to show the
other side of the argument, and i don't want to offend you
dm


 


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