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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-01-14 08:58 [#01818778]
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ok someone explain what this is.
first we had blackdog then 2 of them left and formed plaid right?
ok but what is balil then?
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Sclah
from Freudian Slipmat on 2006-01-14 09:06 [#01818785]
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Ed Hanley's solo alias. Atypic / Tura is Andy Turner, the other Plaid member
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2006-01-14 09:41 [#01818802]
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As if this info is hard to find.. Andy Turner Ed Handley
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-01-14 09:45 [#01818804]
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I am listening to the two hour long Black Dog live in Toronto set as we type, and it's very good and I recommend it and stuff.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-01-14 10:03 [#01818811]
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ok can someone then name this Balil track? LAZY_TITLE
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-01-14 11:18 [#01818852]
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It's off of The Black Dog ep on Rising High, I think, isn't it ? ... I'll find the track name.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-01-14 11:20 [#01818853]
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Is it Flux from the Black Dog Productions EP ?
Black Dog Productions EP
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-01-14 12:00 [#01818868]
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I've never heard of this one before AIM - Cold Water Music
Producer, Arranged By, Written By - Andy Turner
is it good?
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SPD
from United States on 2006-01-14 13:46 [#01818917]
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no its not a Balil track. its actually "Otaku" by Atypic but it was very confusingly labeled on the EP so everyone mislabels it as "Flux". even the Middleton comp got it wrong.
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SPD
from United States on 2006-01-14 13:48 [#01818918]
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different Andy Turner.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2006-01-14 13:50 [#01818919]
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i have this really rare balil/ ART cd something Kirk?? something or other. Is it worth anything?
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xceque
on 2006-01-14 13:53 [#01818920]
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If this is a serious question, then possibly. All the Black Dog tracks are on Trainer though, so you decide.
It's quite a good CD though. The kirk degiorgio tracks are good. From what I remember. It's been a while since I put it on. Quite a long while in fact.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2006-01-14 13:59 [#01818923]
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i think it has some tracks that appeared on trainer. Balil tracks. nort route and stuff. How much would you pay for it?
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xceque
on 2006-01-14 14:01 [#01818925]
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me? i wouldn't pay anything for it, i've already got it. as for how much it might be worth, no idea. probably not much. it's not often a CD is worth much.
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SPD
from United States on 2006-01-14 14:02 [#01818926]
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The Black Dog, Plaid and Balil all existed at the same time; TBD was all three of them, Plaid was Handley/Turner (sometimes just Turner) and Balil was Handley.
Discogs Fs up some of who was who in instances like 'Bytes'. according to interviews w/ the group at the time:
Ken Downie= Xeper / I.A.O. / Discordian Popes Andy Turner= Plaid / Atypic Ed Handley= Close, Up, Over / Balil
from what i've read, that's how the album was divvied up.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2006-01-14 14:50 [#01818952]
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It IS very good
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-15 06:44 [#01819269]
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did ed and andy have an argument/get really pissed of with downie? how did they actually split?
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-01-15 06:56 [#01819279]
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although you're probably right, it is made by an entirely different andy (and yes, SPD is THE ultimate black dog source...THX!)
@Ezkerraldean: they called it "artistic differences" how? would you be satisfied if i say "by email"? (<--purely speculative)
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2006-01-15 07:34 [#01819296]
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Different Andy Turner for sure, but still very good, nothing like the same stylee as Plaid though...just er, nice breaks and so forth :-)
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-01-15 08:42 [#01819318]
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Nuts, I just bought B12-Time Tourist, thinking it was one of the guys from TBD.
Its still good, though.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-01-15 08:51 [#01819321]
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I'd like to point you guys to this thread. LAZY_TITLE
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-01-15 09:29 [#01819339]
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What a bizarre notion. "Time Tourist" is an excellent album so, you know, sometimes it works out good when you're completely wrong about something.
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SPD
from United States on 2006-01-15 19:43 [#01819620]
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i think there just came a time when all of them were on each
others nerves and a split was imminent. Ken seems to be a real idealist so when things did go down, Ed and Andy were the only ones still talking so they stayed together as Plaid.
don't know the situation right now but as of like 2001 Ed and Andy had, had some good email exchanges w/ Ken. I don't
think the original Black Dog will be getting back together or anything, but they aren't on hateful terms at all. the split was like over 10 ago now.
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