| 
| Messageboard index |  |  
| Would you be willing to donate money for any future 
activities (like making "Project X" possible)? 
 |  
|  |  | 
        
         |  | 
        
         |  Phobiazero
             from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-02-19 16:54 [#00094057] Points: 10507 Status: Webmaster | Show recordbag
 | 
| 
     
 
 | A new poll has been set up. 
 Now, let's discuss. We're planning on creating "Project X" -
 a new community site which will be featuring various
 IDM/electronica artists and provide a lot of new contents.
 To make it possible we might need to invest in more
 webspace, bandwidth etc... This is where you come in.
 
 How would this work? Pay for membership? One time donation?
 Other suggestions? Tell us your thoughts...
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  IronLung
             from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-02-19 16:57 [#00094060] Points: 8032 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
 | 
| 
     
 
 | I think a one time membership would be totally acceptable....Count me in Phobia....
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  AMinal
             from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-02-19 21:20 [#00094075] Points: 3476 Status: Regular
 | 
| 
     
 
 | i personally probably wouldn't be willing to pay... theres lots of info on thenet, and no one site has anything
 exclusive enough to pay for...
 oh, and remember there are a lot of younger members without
 credit cards
 
 but then again.. advertising would suck too, so... i dunno
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  Jarworski
             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-19 21:25 [#00094077] Points: 10836 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | Hmmm, to be honest I'm only really mad about Aphex... I don't mind BoC and some other stuff, but I'm happy here...
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  raskolnikov
             from Miami (Mexico) on 2002-02-19 21:31 [#00094082] Points: 357 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | i dont have money.............but i can sell my body 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  marlowe
             from Antarctica on 2002-02-19 21:44 [#00094092] Points: 24636 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | i would donate 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  RobE
             from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-19 21:44 [#00094093] Points: 1608 Status: Regular
 | 
| 
     
 
 | I'd be willing to donate....but how much?            }:> 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  whitehead
             from Nicaragua on 2002-02-19 21:45 [#00094095] Points: 384 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | Maybe let people become members if they donate services? Like webdesign, programming skills, audio, news, whatever?
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  nacmat
             on 2002-02-19 21:50 [#00094100] Points: 31275 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | in the weekly pool I answered NO, but now I am not sure at all... you see I have not much money... but i like this site
 so much... depends on how much... but I am still not sure...
 i am sorry if i dissapointed anyone
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  RobE
             from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-19 21:52 [#00094102] Points: 1608 Status: Regular
 | 
| 
     
 
 | Good in theory,but in practice....Not everyone has these abilities,and it could turn away punters rather than include
 them.                         }:>
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  whitehead
             from Nicaragua on 2002-02-19 21:53 [#00094105] Points: 384 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | you've got a point there... but i think it would be sad to pay for a website... I pay enough for the music, i can't
 spare more money than that...
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  Phobiazero
             from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-02-19 21:53 [#00094107] Points: 10507 Status: Webmaster | Show recordbag
 | 
| 
     
 
 | Maybe a few dollars - just to help us out. I wouldn't dare to ask anyone for money really, but the situation may demand
 it. :-(
 
 More people - less money for each one.
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  nacmat
             on 2002-02-19 21:55 [#00094111] Points: 31275 Status: Lurker | Followup to Phobiazero: #00094107
 | 
| 
     
 
 | if its really a few dollars then its ok by me... its worth the effort...
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  whitehead
             from Nicaragua on 2002-02-19 21:59 [#00094121] Points: 384 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | hmmm... not sure... are you offering a fulltime website? Because if i pay i'd like to see regular updates... I'm not
 paying for static...
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  AMinal
             from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-02-19 22:01 [#00094126] Points: 3476 Status: Regular
 | 
| 
     
 
 | well if its just a few bucks and everyone is contributing then i'd definitly consider it...
 but it would depend what ur offering...
 can u be more specific about that?
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  marlowe
             from Antarctica on 2002-02-19 22:03 [#00094130] Points: 24636 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | well fuck off then 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  marlowe
             from Antarctica on 2002-02-19 22:03 [#00094132] Points: 24636 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | that was to whitehead, not aminal, who must have posted just as i was
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  whitehead
             from Nicaragua on 2002-02-19 22:06 [#00094136] Points: 384 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | real friendly there :) 
 It's just as A Minal says, who will pay money without even
 knowing what is offered?
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  hevquip
             from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2002-02-19 22:58 [#00094190] Points: 3412 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | i'll donate some money/objects found on the floor/various meats/automobiles.
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  aron
             from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-02-19 23:11 [#00094203] Points: 3756 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | now don't get me wrong, i like it here, but i don't know if i'd be able to donate..
 i don't have a credit card, my parents don't have credit
 cards.
 i suppose if it's just a couple dollars i could send a money
 order of something....
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  aperson
             from Brentwood, TN (United States) on 2002-02-19 23:13 [#00094205] Points: 1134 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | I'm in the same position as aron. And it'd really REALLY suck if you charged for membership =[
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  Phobiazero
             from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-02-19 23:26 [#00094220] Points: 10507 Status: Webmaster | Show recordbag
 | 
| 
     
 
 | FYI: I'm paying $$$ each month all alone to keep the site(s) alive. I just wanted to get a general feeling about your
 interests of the future for this site and if you were
 willing to contribue a small part of what I'm already doing.
 
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  nacmat
             on 2002-02-19 23:30 [#00094223] Points: 31275 Status: Lurker | Followup to Phobiazero: #00094220
 | 
| 
     
 
 | what does FYI means? 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  Ophecks
             from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-02-19 23:41 [#00094233] Points: 19190 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
 | 
| 
     
 
 | FYI= For your information 
 I'd be willing to help out with some cash, but not too
 much... college really limits what I can do with my money.
 Your site is probably the ONLY site I'm willing to put money
 into, it's my favorite.
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  Zombiekev
             from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-02-20 00:31 [#00094276] Points: 2857 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | maybe encorporate ads into the site, i'd click on five different ones every day if they were here, and i'd buy shit
 like movies from amazon links if you put them up.
 you get a lot of cash this way.
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  Sido Dyas
             from a computer on 2002-02-20 00:36 [#00094281] Points: 8876 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | I would pay if it is not to much!! It is like a subscription to a good magazine.
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  Quoth
             from Sweden on 2002-02-20 00:59 [#00094292] Points: 3840 Status: Lurker | Followup to Phobiazero: #00094057
 | 
| 
     
 
 | I'd pitch in all the money I've got Phobiazero! Count Me In! 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  BaronVonPickleF
             from United States on 2002-02-20 02:58 [#00094351] Points: 688 Status: Regular
 | 
| 
     
 
 | I'd be willing to sell roses on a freeway off ramp for money for you !!!!!THE BARON HAS SPOKEN!!!!
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  REFLEX
             from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-02-20 05:05 [#00094386] Points: 8864 Status: Regular
 | 
| 
     
 
 | Phobiazero: I can donate money NO problem to be a part of Project X or to keep this site alive. Im all for it
 actually. I see no problems with it. Count me in 110%
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  REFLEX
             from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-02-20 08:12 [#00094441] Points: 8864 Status: Regular
 | 
| 
     
 
 | No one else???? 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  perceptor
             from North Liberty (United States) on 2002-02-20 09:16 [#00094464] Points: 134 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | I don't spend a lot of time cruising around on the interent but when I'm on I'm usually here or at joyrex.  at both
 sites I've had many interesting conversations and learned a
 lot about electronic music from both communities so being
 that I consider this time well spent I don't see a problem
 with paying a donation or a one time entry fee.
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  KEN
             from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-20 09:21 [#00094465] Points: 1844 Status: Regular
 | 
| 
     
 
 | hell yes!!!-phob-have you had that record yet?? 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  Phobiazero
             from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-02-20 09:22 [#00094466] Points: 10507 Status: Webmaster | Followup to KEN: #00094465 | Show recordbag
 | 
| 
     
 
 | Not yet my friend... 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  Phobiazero
             from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-02-20 09:34 [#00094469] Points: 10507 Status: Webmaster | Show recordbag
 | 
| 
     
 
 | Since about 50% of you are not willing to make any kind of donations I could see a scenario where we'll have "Premium
 Memberships" and "Standard Memberships".
 
 More to come.
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  nacmat
             on 2002-02-20 09:42 [#00094472] Points: 31275 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | seing the ilusion that my MB friends are showing I feel I have no doubt now... I´d like to help
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-02-20 10:20 [#00094484] Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
 | 
| 
     
 
 | I'd rather not have advertising, but I'd be willing to make a one-of payment of a few pounds if you could promise the
 site would be up for a few more years at least.
 
 On a side note, I'm in the same position as Jarwoski, I
 don't mind BoC etc. but I only really like AFX. Perhaps if
 you had a poll of how many people wanted
 "Project X" first and then asked if they wanted to pay for
 it?
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  doki
             from cologne (Germany) on 2002-02-20 10:25 [#00094485] Points: 494 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | i´d pay - count on me ;A 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  jonesy
             from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-02-20 10:28 [#00094487] Points: 6650 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | What's Project X? 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  aron
             from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-02-20 10:31 [#00094489] Points: 3756 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | oh, wouldn't you like to know? ;)
 
 http://www.aphextwin.nu/mb/topic.php3?topic=7787&start=0&se
 ekwrd=&idxstart=0
 
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  jonesy
             from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-02-20 10:35 [#00094490] Points: 6650 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | Um, yes I would. What's all that jibberish you wrote? I don't speak Canadian
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  Phobiazero
             from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-02-20 10:37 [#00094492] Points: 10507 Status: Webmaster | Show recordbag
 | 
| 
     
 
 | click here then 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  jonesy
             from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-02-20 10:48 [#00094498] Points: 6650 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | Thank you muchly Phoberoo 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  andreas
             from an der Saar (Germany) on 2002-02-20 10:49 [#00094500] Points: 343 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
 | 
| 
     
 
 | hello phobia, hello all, 
 we should discuss that openly. this issue has already killed
 many communities that got victims of their own success
 somehow...
 
 i fully understand phobias demand.
 
 so, there are different ways to raise money i think:
 
 - subscription
 - (one time) donations
 - affiliation programms
 - third party sponsorships
 - adbanners
 - sponored newsletter
 
 i think, we should open the community to some third party
 sponsorship:
 
 - why not having some record-labels or print-magazines
 presenting parts of the content?
 
 - why not offer a "shop" via the amazon affiliation
 programm?
 
 - why not set up a sponsored newsletter that will be sent to
 each member?
 
 on the other hand, i don't know if this will bring enough
 money...
 
 what do you think?
 
 .a
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  jand
             from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-20 10:51 [#00094501] Points: 5975 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
 | 
| 
     
 
 | Sounds interesting... I guess I'd be willing to toss some dollar into the pot...
 
 I like the idea of a community supporting itself...
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  globalgoon
             from bye on 2002-02-20 10:54 [#00094504] Points: 303 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | this is the nicest "IDM" web site around, I'd be willing to donate
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  grm
             from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-20 11:00 [#00094508] Points: 494 Status: Regular
 | 
| 
     
 
 | the money idea wouldn't work. Yes some people would pay up but a majority of others (although this'll really depend on
 the cost) would probably not.  the way this site works and
 works well is that it's free and brings together a
 collective of afx lovers across the world in a space they
 can call their own.  BUT you have to realise that there are
 a lot of other IDM style sites around where the owner pays
 for the web space but leaves the site ad and fee free.  It
 would have to be one dogs bollocks of a site for me to think
 of paying.  sorry, just my opinion?
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  jonesy
             from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-02-20 11:16 [#00094515] Points: 6650 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | I've only just discovered this site and know little/nothing about how websites are set up, run and funded. Could someone
 fill me in. What kind of money has to be put into a site
 like this one.
 
 I would be willing to donate if it meant it was kept
 independent from any companies or advertisers. This kind of
 thing is refreshing precisely because it isn't corrupted by
 the corporate culture that dominates our society.
 
 Sorry if that sounds wanky but I love this because its
 people communicating without any profit involved or any
 compromises. Keep up the good work.
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  jonesy
             from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-02-20 11:19 [#00094516] Points: 6650 Status: Lurker
 | 
| 
     
 
 | Then again, maybe we could get Jamie Oliver on board. He'll even sell his own grandmother to raise a bit of cash
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  REFLEX
             from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-02-20 12:05 [#00094559] Points: 8864 Status: Regular
 | 
| 
     
 
 | Id defenitly pay, and Im sure that many of not all of the hardcore regulars would pay too.
 
 The Third Party idea is not bad either... just depends on
 which one really.
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         |  chapman
             from United Kingdom on 2002-02-20 12:58 [#00094589] Points: 1134 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
 | 
| 
     
 
 | Its a toughy this one, needs a lot of thought i reckon, as a lot of sites have been killed off once money is required for
 the viewers
 
 presumably the main cost right now is hosting due to high
 bandwidth requirements..... why not ask around this
 community to see if anyone works/owns a hosting company or
 has a suitable server at free/discounted rates?
 
 you never know
 
 
 
 | 
        
         |   | 
        
         | Messageboard index
 
 
        
 |