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and they clearly have no idea about what are they talking about..i mean they know a few popular bands and they think they know all about it. im not saying i know a lot, but to listen/read to stuff some people say/write makes me quite mad. how do you feel about people like that? and people like me? :D |
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Yes, kids who think "alternative music" begins and ends within the covers of NME get on my nerves the most. |
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they don't bother me unless they're drunk... once they start yelling in my face about the quality musicianship of sum 41, i generally want to leave the conversation. |
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People like that should be lined up and shot. People like you are awesome, yet should work on tolerance. I dunno to be honest, most people annoy me anyway. |
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Yes i hate kids. |
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youve got a point, but there are also people who know too much, you feel like you cant talk to them about music because they are into really obscure records and artists you havent heard of...its like you say 'i really love this record' and they say 'ive heard it and i have 10 records of the same genre that are better'... |
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After a few thoughts it has struck me that tolstoyed is most probably very tolerant. In fact he must be. |
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"People like that should be lined up and shot" - "yet should work on tolerance." ..setting an example? |
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As always. |
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i don't even bother reading most of the cirtics to be honnest... When people TALK about music to me. Well, it can turn into nice arguments from time to time. :) |
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yes, i like those people a lot, i love to listen to their recommendations and other music related stories. hobbes, why would you think im tolerant? :) |
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I refer to them as "kids", because they tend ot be first year university students who think they're oh-so-enlightened and that I, as an older "working stiff", cannot begin to comprehend the genius of Keen or Razorlight. |
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I get a chill down my spine when someone new asks "so, what kind of music are you into?". I dare say "IDM" because that's followed by "oh, what does that stand for?" I usually just settle for saying "electronic music" and even then it makes me sound like a total geek. People piss me off quite a lot actually. I have quite a few friends who are into indie music. I actually hate indie music to a major extent so it does create quite a void as quite a big part of me is about music. What's also sad about this is that they think that their indie music is "underground" or whatever when it really isn't. Personally I think if it's popular then it can't be "underground". ARGH, I hate people who make judgements so quickly based on me saying "electronic music" None of them have even listened to 'IDM' and even if I play some to them they're like "nahhh nahhh" before they've even had a chance to listen. They think they know my music when they don't! |
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the best way is to not be smart about something if you're not really familiar with it imo :) |
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Sure, i see what you mean, osmet thing just happened to cross my mind for some reason. |
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indie/emo/skate-punk thats all popular these days isnt underground, its a deviant on mainstream culture. |
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they listen but they don't hear it :) i know what you mean,i don't bother with that anymore really.. |
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whats really annoying though is when someone says they love all these crap bands, then you mention aphex, and they are like 'yeah i heard him, come to daddy was ok, but hes still crap'...somehow a blink182 fan living in ignorance of aphex is better than a blink182 fan who has heard idm and hates it... |
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Hmm. I'm not sure if it's possible to know too much about a subject (well, this is debatable, as ignorance can be bliss ;)) ..Now the person who knows those 10 records that are better can probably give you really good pointers on where to look next? Many people who know a bit more about a subject can become difficult to approach not because of the amount of knowledge they have but rather because of the importance they think should be attributed to them through this knowledge. Also called wankers |
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it's not even a deviant - it IS mainstream culture. |
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Totally, i hate those above all, especially if they are "trendy". |
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Yeah... Definitely. :) "These are usually called: "know it alls"" :) |
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but so are aphex twin, autechre and boc don't you think? im not really too concerned with what's popular and what isn't..as long as it's good.. |
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actually, people like that really do irritate me... that's very annoying indeed. |
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That's the problem, they like music that's marketed as being "underground", when really it's "mainstream for angsty teenagers who need to grow up". I like the new greenday album, but the difference is I rightly see it as "alternative pop music" rather than real "underground" music. |
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yeah i always end up describing my music as 'dance music', i just know people think im listening to trance or something, but i can never seem to be able to describe idm without sounding pretentious or condescending... |
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yes, those are perhaps even worse than those who pretend to know it all :) |
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yeah, like even for me I'm still maturing in appreciating music. Like I used to listen to abacus 2 quite a bit when I first got the promo. I listened to it the other day and only then realised how amazing the beats are. Now when I listen to indie music I listen out for 'good bits' or whatever but can never hear anything worth appreciating. Even the beats are all mushed together and EQd too quietly! |
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the only thing i can talk in a smart way about is POOH... And Video Games... (Ohh.. and airplanes...) :D But whatever the subject... i think it's always better to stay modest. |
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chihiro i want to give you a big hug! |
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I just tell people "Music with beats" as often this seems to be a good way to distinguish between melody driven rock derivative stuff or trance and hip hop and more interesting forms of electronic stuff.. Then again it doesn't really describe the full width of my musical tastes but it doesn't need to - people wouldn't understand :) |
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im not sure about the term indie, but i think i like that sort of music :) i can confirm that chihiro knows a lot about airplanes (i'll try and avoid them in the future as much as possible). |
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i don't really explain to people what i listen to..if they ask i say i'll listen to anything good, and if they want me to be more specific i just name a few various genres and they're usually satisfied :) |
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One of my best frriends is rreally 'into music'. Orr in otherr worrds rreally into the NME. It's drreadful trrying to talk to him, not because i know it all orr that I'm any betterr than he is, but trry talking about any band that in his own worrds 'doesn't fit his image', is worrthless. |
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if someone told me they liked music with beats, i would assume they are talking about hip hop or rap... another annoying thing is when someone is playing a garage track and says 'i love this bassline'...to me they all sound exactly the same, certainly no one track has a better bassline then any others...this was actually part of commercial on the BBC for one of their radio stations or something, a man put on a garage track and someone said 'this bassline is wikkid'..no its not you dumbass! |
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the killers, franz ferdinand, kings of leon, the zutons, kaiser chief recognise any of those? |
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even worse than telling people you like IDM: telling them you listen to punk rock, because they normally assume you listen to blink-182 and shit like that. so you have to be specific and the as you explain that you listen to original punk from the mid-late 70's and hardcore from the early 80's, their nodding becomes increasingly subtle and their smile more agitated and finally they just want to rip out your music snob throat just to make the foul, confusing, boring sounds stop. |
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haha, blink 182 is concidered to be punl culture for the younsters today..how awful does that sound :) razorblade, i know of franz ferdinand (i don't think i've heard any of their songs though), and i like the killers and kings of leon quite a bit :) |
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im starting to miss out letters..sorry. |
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Chrismas day, your parents tell you 'i know you like music, so we bought you some music cds.' after hearing those words youre filled with dread as you take the wrapping paper off the cds...'wow um thanks, i uh really like usher a lot...and kylie too? youre really spoiling me'... |
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i think we all think too much. |
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I admit I have a liking for the voice of the lead singer of 'kings of leon' |
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thats what i meant, or i meaned to meant, is that its an alternative mainstream |
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since i decided to embrrace being an idiot and stop all but the most basic thinking, i've become much happierr. |
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I think it's easier to mention bands or artists names rather than a confusing genre label. Then, if the person knows the artists you've mentioned they might be able to talk with you sensibly, but if they've never heard of them there probably is no point in pursuing a conversation about your taste in music. And you can just sit back and switch off while they bang on about some godawful marketing concept and lifestyle accessory misleadingly sold under the name of music. |
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sounds like a good strategy :) |
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yeah, i hate speaking to people about music except when they are open to many genres. i hate it when people stick to one genre like its their religion. |
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here's my solution - just lie from now on. everytime you meet someone new, do it just like this: they'll say, "what kind of music do you listen to?" i listen to whatever it is that you listen to. "heh... what?" i like every sound that has ever been made in the history of the universe. which are your favorites? "uh... madonna?" madonna is my favorite music maker, by far. i love madonna and every sound she has ever made, especially the ones that you favor. she has revolutionized music in an important and influential way. "yeah, she's good i guess... uhh... i've got the new prince album. have you hea---" prince is the greatest artist ever in the history of creation, including when he went by other, harder-to-pronounce monikers, he is the best of all time and i love his music with all my heart. he has revolutionized music in an important and influential way. "y-you're nuts, man. i'm out of here..." i'm nuts all right. nuts about prince and the new revolution. sheila e drives me crazy with pleasure! "i hate you." I LOVE THE SAME MUSIC YOU DO! LET'S BE FRIENDS!!!! |
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when people ask me what is idm, i ask them if they have heard of the aphex twin. if they say yes, i can talk to them about it further, but if they say no, then i just tell them itll take too long to explain, and change the subject |
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we cant talk to you about music anymore? are you leaving the board or do you mean people in general? |
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