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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-17 21:38 [#01536757]
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i'll try that one out..i have nothing to lose :)
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Dael
from the low end (Australia) on 2005-03-17 21:40 [#01536758]
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......with the teethhhhurrrrrrrrrr.......
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-03-18 02:03 [#01536807]
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"can you realy listen to any mainstream rock music and say that NIN doesn't compare favourably?"
No the point is that this NIN does sound like any other mainstream rock. That's the point. Pure shit.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-03-18 02:09 [#01536810]
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just because it's perhaps slightly better than mainstream rock (which I don't think it is - to me it sounds like mainstream rock) doesn't make it a better record anyway.
perhaps comparing it to eurohouse from the '90s will make it a better record?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-03-18 02:22 [#01536817]
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what annoys me most about "the hand that feeds" - how many words can you find that end on "eeds".
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-18 06:18 [#01536894]
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whatever, its only one track... and a single at that, the samples of the whole album give a better impression
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2005-03-18 07:17 [#01536928]
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its only one track from a full album of shitty tracks
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-18 08:00 [#01536967]
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in your opinion
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-03-18 08:11 [#01536976]
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no, in his fact.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-18 08:23 [#01536985]
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you didn't listen to the 'still' tracks then, download Leaving Hope, its amazing
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xf
from Australia on 2005-03-18 09:02 [#01537006]
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heh, i thought it was more
with-aaaa teeth-aaaa
great choice of lyrics, trent, real great
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-18 09:15 [#01537014]
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actually i downloaded that whole album on your recomendation..im listening to it now..it does nothing for me though :(
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-18 09:28 [#01537027]
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not even the instrumentals at the end?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-18 09:29 [#01537029]
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i'm starting to think that there's a possibility, an off-chance that perhaps you just don't like nine inch nails?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-18 09:32 [#01537030]
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at the end of some particular track (i get real nervous and i can't finish any songs so i don't know how they end) or the last song that seem to have no vocals? and yes, im starting to think i don't really like it..
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-03-18 09:45 [#01537037]
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the instrumentals are kind of pompous though, even though they're supposed to be "still".
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2005-03-18 09:48 [#01537041]
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pantalaimon i love still, i like most of trents stuff. but when i heard this i nearly vomitted. i like the fact that he changes styles every album...roughly...and this 'change' is for the worst. 'with teeth'= pop/radio friendly songs. i feel insulted as a fan that he'd release something as shitty as this.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-18 09:48 [#01537042]
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are they? i don't really know... i like the whole album, so what do i know?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-18 09:49 [#01537043]
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yeah, i feel the same way.
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2005-03-18 09:49 [#01537045]
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I was also hoping that everything that was leaked was fake tracks to throw people off, but according to the official nin site, they're actually real tracks and i'm no longer a nin fan. FUCK YOU TRENT, you DOUCHE
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-03-18 09:52 [#01537051]
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I have never felt insulted as a fan.
I wouldn't know how to approach such a thing.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-18 09:52 [#01537052]
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no, no - his radical change is a reflection of his polarizing artistry and we, as fans of his earlier work, must embrace his changes as he grows as an artist. hahahaha
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-03-18 09:55 [#01537056]
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I think he should do what the fuck he likes and I will then see if I like what the fuck he does, or perhaps not like it.
that's about it. he owes me nothing.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-18 09:57 [#01537061]
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are you high? trent, you owe me. you owe me. you know you know you owe me.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-18 09:58 [#01537062]
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you'll see what they mean when you hear that books - 2unlimited collaboration..
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-18 09:59 [#01537068]
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hahaha
indeed, qrter...
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2005-03-18 10:13 [#01537085]
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you and the 20 billion other 12 year olds....
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-18 12:19 [#01537167]
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none of the tracks? you don't like Leaving Hope? I'm surprised...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-18 12:40 [#01537172]
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that was the song i was refering to when i wrote that post actually.. luckly there's plenty of other music i can enjoy so i'll be ok :)
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-03-18 13:48 [#01537269]
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the video is a shame, the music is shit, T.R. should join that sad Bono club
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mimi
on 2005-03-18 15:04 [#01537396]
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As far as Still goes, I thought it was some of his most whiney and melodramatic work to date. I liked some parts here and there, but the one song with lyrics sounded like Stabbing Westward. Crap.
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mozak
on 2005-03-18 21:53 [#01537688]
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akhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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xf
from Australia on 2005-03-19 00:12 [#01537709]
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still took me a while to get into, by the way, so keep at it.
the pieces on that album are brilliant, definitely, but it's far from my favourite nin. they're hard to compare, though, really.
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xf
from Australia on 2005-03-19 00:13 [#01537710]
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the production in that clip is fucking awful, actually (if you're referring to 'the hand that feeds'); i'm really, really surprised. the nin dvd, which they supposedly did, was fucking brilliant.
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xf
from Australia on 2005-03-19 00:15 [#01537711]
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i mean, jesus - i really /hope/ the movement tearing in the video is some intentional (stupid) effect and not them having no clue how to avoid it, and what's with the digital panning and zooming? it looks like a fucking 12 year old did it.
depends what the clip was for. if it was a quick clip to give to their fans, great, i'm happy with it, and it gives some interesting insight to the gear they use, etc. if it _is_ the actual music video, boo.
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magicant
from Canada on 2005-03-19 01:22 [#01537728]
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he's a drunk, what'd you expect
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xf
from Australia on 2005-03-19 08:27 [#01537899]
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the line begins to blur is a brilliant song; it definitely grows on you - keep having to listen to it although i'm trying to avoid getting too familiar with the tracks before the thing is actually released. definitely fits in nicely with nin's previous great works.
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-03-19 09:22 [#01537941]
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hahahaha the hand that feeds.. hahahahha.. sounds so tacky. like the kind of music they play in a club in metropolis on smallville. hahahahahhaah. oh trent. hahahah.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-03-19 09:30 [#01537945]
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Okay while I agree that it's shit; if you are 'offended' as a 'fan', then you should get your head out of your ass and get your priorities straight.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-03-19 09:40 [#01537957]
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I just have a hard time buying into any of his lyrics these days. the shallowness of them turns me off bigtime.
I cut him a lot of slack on TDS because I think that's more of him telling a narrative of someone else descending into depression. Whereas, on The Fragile, and it looks like With Teeth is going to be the same thing, he's just whining about himself.. which gets tedious imo.
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-03-19 09:48 [#01537963]
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well it's interesting b/c his lyrics and music (or at least it did in the past) follow the early onsets of ebm-industrial. and if you listen to the ebm crap they play now in clubs, it's even tackier. it's like a genre of whimpy goth pop.
but a good period of early ebm-type stuff he made was probably on pretty hate machine. listening to that now, after having listened to it in high school back in the early 90s, i realize how ebm-ish it actually is (but in a good way).
although i don't dislike nin, i think that the period during downward spiral and even before that on some albums, he did a lot more soundscape experimentation - now it's just guitar and drums and ASS synths and whatever the hell else makes a song sound like a commercial.
anyway, since i haven't heard the entire with teeth, im not at liberty to judge the album as a whole.. but hand that feeds is just uhh.. yeah...*cough*.. has a certain je ne sais quois.. :)
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-19 10:30 [#01538005]
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what are you talking about? what parts of his music sound remotely like early industrial? pretty hate machine incorporates about 0% industrial music - it's synthpop influenced by skinny puppy with rapping and sounds like peter gabriel.
so honestly, what industrial music are you talking about?
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-03-19 10:43 [#01538015]
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ebm-industrial = synthpop. not the industrial that you're probably thinking of. yeah it's synthpop but i forgot the name and just remembered ebm-industrial. but yeah i dont mean the type of industrial that you are probably thinking of :)
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-19 10:53 [#01538026]
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don't mind me, that was a ridiculous post to make and i'm sorry i made it. i don't really care at all. :/
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xf
from Australia on 2005-03-19 20:50 [#01538439]
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ya, agreed. i'm no big fan of the hand that feeds, either.
i get the impression he can't be arsed doing as much as he used to these days.
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