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tho, squarepusher has more sense for melody and traditional structure, I find Aaron Funk to be much more fresh! He is so sharp and quite free, tho I don´t think his melodies would be worth lstening to alone... |
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are you kidding snares is like 7 feet tall he would clobber him |
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yes lets finally get this outt the way.... venetian snares = shit melodies squarepusher = fucking great melodies Vsnares is really just a dumbed down hardcore version of squarepusher. really, imo. |
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i don't think melody is a concern of his...he's more rhythmic than melodic. |
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squarepusher Snares is possibly technicaly better, but squarepusher makes better music Ceephax is probably snares and pushers secret love child |
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both are great in rythms, but I really prefer snares nowdays, his so sick... and he looks really unsympathetic too! |
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actually I listen to songs like Arched Pathway, and I realize that Squarepusher is more hardcore at times, yet he can play live instruments and understand jazz. |
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sqarepusher is too bebop, jazz influenced for me, at least in hard normal daddy, it´s just drill n bass easy listening. Snares is fucking everything backwards, that´s his secret, tho I have hard to belive he uses fl studio... And I can´t understand how aaron can make only hc drill n bass, I would get compleatly mad.... |
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I don't know, neither are really the greatest... |
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on wich album is that pusher track stoner? |
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I find you have to be more "in the mood" for snares though. Sometimes my head can't take it and I just have to turn it off. Squarepusher can pretty much be played anytime |
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Snares is possibly technically better? Snares has the sloppiest music in idm, if you ask me. Squarepusher represents the top of technical anal retentiveness. |
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i would also say squarepusher i better.. both tecnically and musically. although vsnares is awsome as well, but he does'nt have a chance againt tom. |
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as I don't actually make music I'm easily fooled =o) |
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they both bore me to tears. and i could have them both, no problem. |
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Squarepusher is better for melodies but Vsnares is unbeatable for awesome breaks (e.g. "Children's Limbo", "Find Candace", "Epidermis", "Dad"). |
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despite his music being good, squarepusher comes across as a pretentious wanker! |
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squarepusher can bulid longer rytmical patterns taht actually work togheter while snare only make lots of flipper drums after each other, and that is indeed the amusement... |
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yeah pushers stuff is so much more dense , harmonically and ebbs and flows more, though i think with stuff like HCCBU aaron is really getting damn good, it has sick melodies and insane yet measured drums.. who knows , maybe 5 years down the line things may be different. but for now tom all the way. |
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i like Squarepusher, i can't stand Venetian Snares. ' _ - |
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I had this discussion with a couple friends one time. I always used to be hard on Snares, but when they started preaching the superiority of Squarepusher I found myself defending him (snares). I'd say Squarepusher might be a bit more talented simply for the sake of diversity and some level of musicality. Snares really has zero sense of melody or nuance.. his melodies sound like the shit I come up with when I'm having a bad day and later end up scrapping. I'm really surprised he goes to press with some of it. On the flip side, i am simply awed by his drum programming ability. It's astonishing, nothing short of jaw-dropping. Squarepusher has tracks like this too, but I find the pure power of Snares' stuff to be unparalleled. |
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squarepusher...no contest really. |
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i think squarepusher is km away from vsnares... vs is nice. sp is excellent. no contest really... |
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SquarePussha!! makes great melodic songs with fabulous technical structures, i love his music....but vsnares is sooooo boundless, I love that in experimental music..I definately vote venetian snares!!!! |
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not sure i get it...what's experimental about either of them? |
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i see you're going to hit 30.000 pretty soon..and i've to tell you the definition off experimental music? ok I'll give it a try: discovered" |
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thanks :) |
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your mothers dwatt |
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both |
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pusher circa 1997 , snares does'nt even come close. These days though , pusher has gone too far up his own arse. |
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actually I must say I play snares a lot more this days |
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tetra-sync > you |
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squarepusher is better |
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for all those stating that vsnares has no formal musical training, you are incorrect, he has a wide range of instrumental talents and a very strong knowledge of formal musical theory. he has made the choice to make music outside of this, using more advanced or "experimental" melodic scales and dabbling inside serialism from what i have picked up. his music is focused more on rhythms which evolve and transform in ways that are outside of the norm, something very unique. according to him, he strives to create music which moves along faster rhythmically than more traditional music. when it comes to squarepusher, he has a great sense of melody, but stylistically he has remained very consistent throughout his career, using very similar compositional structures as his previous works, as well as borrowing heavily from jazz and other genres. to me, this seems what seperates snares and squarepusher; ground-breaking rhythm structures, versus what has seemed to be a refinement of traditional structures, both melodically and rhythmically with the addition of electronic production and texturing. in short, vsnares continues to do new things with the pace of music, pushing the standards of highly-complex, well developed rhythms, whereas squarepusher is taking the traditional elements of jazz and integrating them into the traditional elements of electronic music. in my opinion you cannot compare a futurist with a traditionalist. (im so pretentious) |
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I love venetian snares, but I have to go with squarepusher. |
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snares |
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corticalsti, what makes you think VSnares has any formal training? I can't hear any serialism in his music, or "unconventional" scales; more just simple, shitty melodies (imho.) I prefer Squarepusher overall, although sometimes I like VSnare's insane drum abuse, it can be really exciting. They're both brilliant fun. |
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as it was said, squarepusher makes better music. squarepusher makes fucking music, not noisy artsyfartsy crap. now let's stop comparing that piece of shit vsnares to other respectable and talented artists. |
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here here redrum! |
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have you ever had a discussion with him about what he did musically before his electronic stuff? |
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"now let's stop comparing that piece of shit vsnares to other respectable and talented artists." Wanker. |
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wow, if you think that squarepusher hasnt made any "noisy artsyfartsy crap" you obviously havent heard a lot of his more abstract work. "telluric piece," for example. |
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thanks :) |
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well if you're so quick to point out abstract music from squarepusher's huge catalog, care to point out some actually listenable vsnares then? although i'm sure you and i differ on what we feel is listenable (..enjoyable..) music. |
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Well, Venetian Snares might be a highly technical and ground-breaking artist, but his music still sounds like shit. |
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they both suck |
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"twelve" off of the new infolepsy ep |
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you fucking suck |
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Pusher is not Canadian and does not blow mounties. Ok he is from Chelmsford. Draw, IMO Pusher. |
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