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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-11-25 18:12 [#01405670]
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I'm still waiting for someone to give me a recording of the sound of shit so I can actually compare.
P.S. You like Doll Doll Doll.
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Torture Garden
from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2004-11-25 18:22 [#01405676]
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Snares has some great sounding music. From what I hear he isn't dabbling in serialism, it's a very obvious sounding technique, unless he just created his own loose rules. It wouldn't surprise me if he has a strong knowledge of music theory, just because you know it doesn't mean you always apply it.
Squarepusher is hardly bebop sounding, he takes 7th chords and plonks them into his compositions, big deal. He is a good bass player I think, I'm sure he didn't aim to sound like a traditional jazz bassist, although I think he'd be able to hold it up if he ever wanted to go in that direction. They're both good, the end.
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nacmat
on 2004-11-25 18:24 [#01405678]
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dad vida this bitter earth we are oceans dismantling five years sink snow angel coke ajax ion divoy ...
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2004-11-25 18:34 [#01405687]
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i really just said serialism for no reason at all.
indeed.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-11-25 18:42 [#01405690]
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winter in the belly of a snake and huge chrome cylinder box unfolding have stunning melodies
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2004-11-25 18:45 [#01405692]
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i agree
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2004-11-25 18:47 [#01405693]
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to elaborate, to me they have a textural and timbral effect which is much more emotionally striking then a lot of "tunes."
they may not be as easily remembered, but they have a greater power to my ears and feelings together than most idm melodies.
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nacmat
on 2004-11-25 18:53 [#01405694]
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in fact, snares melodies are very good compared to most of the ususal videogame idm-ish melodies
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-11-25 19:04 [#01405697]
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I disagree, although i haven't heard HCCBU, I've heard winter plenty of times, and a lot of the melodies on it were far from stunning. Examples:
Dad - 1 main melody, 2nd 'solo/counter' melody comes in the last half. The main melody is very repetitve although interesting as its kinda off kilter/plinky, the 2nd one is really just improv over the first one, doesnt really do anything for me.
Suffocate is one of my favorites off the album - but again its quite repetitive melody wise.
fraujager - is okay, but rythms of the melodies are kinda childish, and only 2 chords for the last half of the album with more repetition by a lead violin.
sink snow angel, sounds like he played all of the melodies with 1 finger and occasionally using his left hand for its other index finger
Gottrahmen - has the best imo, followed by cashew
To me, overall he'll have like a few great tracks per album, and the rest is rubbish. Songs about my cats had the best melodies imo.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-11-25 19:05 [#01405698]
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I disagree again, Snares is one of the farthest away from having videogamish melodies...
Cort - i believe the reason that they stick with you so much is because they are very simple and catchy. Which isn't surprising next to his insane drum programming, something has to counterbalance it.
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2004-11-25 19:20 [#01405707]
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im sorry, but you appeared to have misread both of our posts.
i said that they DO NOT stick with me as much as simpler stuff.
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2004-11-25 19:25 [#01405713]
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and i agree that songs about my cats does have the best melodies of em all.
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nacmat
on 2004-11-25 19:28 [#01405714]
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I think you read me wrong
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elektric_drums
from United States on 2004-11-25 19:30 [#01405717]
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i don't really like vsnares at all. and squarepusher is alright, despite being a douche bag, and making one of the most annyoying albums ever (ultravisitor).
i say neither.
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nacmat
on 2004-11-25 19:32 [#01405718]
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man I must be crazy, I love ultravisitor
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mimi
on 2004-11-25 19:35 [#01405721]
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i go with neither, as well. although i probably like snares a bit more than squarepusher. i definitely would rather listen to the snares releases i have (which don't include anything past find candice) than squarepusher's stuff in general. though squarepusher is probably a better musician, i don't really care about that at all.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-11-25 19:42 [#01405726]
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sorry guys, i could have sworn i read your posts correctly, but i was sober then, so lets try this again:
corty: I'm so stoned
nacmat: I dont like vsnares melodies.
:D
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2004-11-25 20:01 [#01405737]
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hahah - i just got stoned as well
i must add though, i can listen to squarepusher at any time and enjoy it - but i need to be in the right mood for a lot of vsnares stuff, but in that mood i enjoy it to a much higher level than usual.
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2004-11-25 23:06 [#01405770]
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Squarepusher laid the foundation and then VSnares built the castle. VSnares vs. anyone would end up with a vote for VSnares right now. He's the ONLY reason I still listen to electronically produced music.
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knobcheese
from Perth (Australia) on 2004-11-25 23:26 [#01405772]
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on the ball as usual
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-11-26 00:46 [#01405780]
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snares!!!
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-11-26 04:33 [#01405827]
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From "Buzz caner" to Squarepusher breezeblock set 04 and Glade '04
Youknowsit
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2004-11-26 08:14 [#01406003]
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haha :D word to that.
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