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i find reason better for the user friendly layout + everything is soo easy in it. the sound is a bit of a wank...friutly kinda leads in that. |
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I use Reason. I've tried Fruity Loops many times over the years in its varying versions and I just couldn't get into it. |
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score draw |
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yeah,floops always sucked for me...the first time i started to do music i used frooty and it didn't impress me. reason + nuendo = good |
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FL sounds better than Reason - if you use your own VSTis. Most of the bundled instruments and sounds are crap. The beatslicer is great though. If you don't already have a bunch of favorite VSTis then Reason might sound better at first. However you're stuck with what it has - no support for third party plugins. FL has the best piano roll editing around, far better than Cubase, Cakewalk or Reason. And the automation is killer. Once you know your way around FL it sounds as good as anything. |
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FL Studio is great. |
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i prefer Reason myself, i just never got into FL, didnt feel good to use for me. I use Reason and Logic. As for tracks made in Reason sounding like Reason, you just have to learn how to not make it sound like Reason, which comes with using it for a long time. But it does suck that you are stuck with the limited reason instruments and effects. |
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agreed...this is very true. |
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I use FL Studio because I don´t know the site to d/l Reason (1.5GB) o___0 I am just a poor little girl that needs of the cracker to use FL in a full version,then,I will need the Reason´s cracker too. |
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hehe, "cracker" |
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Oh please. |
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Hammerhead beat machine |
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brokenphones, i actually looked up that app and found their site; started reading the comments and i couldn't stop laughing, i was in hysterics especially by our man 'juuso' |
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I have hammerhead! ^__- Hummm..Scup,my first language is portuguese,then,não repare os meu erros e fica quietinho. |
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fruityloops + 1 |
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Yes it's true. The people who say "Floops sounds crap" tend to be refering to the 404, Wasp, and the default fruity kick, as opposed to Absynth, Reaktor and a load of Zero G drum samples ;-) |
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But that said, I use Reason a lot to "sketch" tracks as I find it quicker to work with and I sometimes do my rhythm lines in that; I prefer Dr. Rex to Beatslicer. Reason's midi implementation leaves a lot to be desired whereas Floops' is grade A. |
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Compared to cubase, reason and fruity both sound like crap. I use reason in cubase. I like the little plugs in fruityloops, like the wavtraveler and granulizer, but its really awkward to write full songs in. Compare seeing all your programming in one screen to seeing a bunch of squares and rectangles. Fruity is good for writing beat loops tho. |
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I don't really use it much, but when I do, I use reason... however, I almost always export to and sequence in Acid.. I find that I can always fix reasons bad sound with some eq and stuff... |
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Yes, for drum machine type beats it's really good. Being able to see them for all parts as clearly as you can is like some wonderful sampling-capable 707/909 thing. |
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Fruity is also really good for microsound. Cubase is not so good. Thats what rewire is for tho. |
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fl sucks. piano roll in fl looks looks shitty, interface in fl is shitty, sound is shitty. reason has more when it comes to sound manipulating. thats why it is on 1, almost full CD, and sound libraries take another two CD's, while fl is a stupid tracker for some silly dollars. really, i cant believe that most of you have so good ears that you can say "fuckin reason sound". it is fuckin when you dont know how to do / use your own samples, or how to change them. fl is also fuckin if you will be trapped in VST trap, where you are addicted to VST plug-ins, and can do nothing without them. while VST is not as good as is supposed to be. i used fl, now i use reason. i find most of the knobs perfectly fitting in the place of twatty installations of several fucked up plug-ins from unknown sources. |
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whats microsound ? |
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It's a genre, a bit like glitch. |
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for the money fruity is way more interesting i thinkreason's a little bit more on the semi-pro side of things, but it is just too much of a commercial product for me to put that much money in it... when you can have things like ReNoise or audiomulch for around 50$ its a bit dumb to buy reason IMO |
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errh.. I know what microbeat is.. but is microsound anything different? the only other thing I can connect it to is that thing with the people who recorded sounds that aren't audible to the human ear (the sound of a tree growing and stuff like that)... |
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ah, wasnt "minimal" word to describe this before ? oh these fast times were living in... |
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Minimal is more stuctured, less varied. Microsound refers to music wherein the musician manipulates 'micro'samples (or microsounds), in finite detail. Think; old Kid 606, Richard Devine and Dino Philipe (along with most of the schematic Krew), Leafcutter John. Stuff like that. One of the more popular sub-genres of this sub-genre is known as microhouse. Some names; Mathew Herbert, Akufen, Soft Pink Truth. |
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microtrance, micopop, microdance, microtechnodubtrancehouseclickdigitaldrumnbassplickschwick. i love naming genres, its soo cool.. |
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heh... right. Good one. |
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Reason. |
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yeah,we call it minimal...i'm a minimal artists myself and reason seems to be the only logich explanation when it comes to this. no matter what other ppl say,reason has one of the userfriendly interfaces around. fuck cubase,nuendo,logic or floops if you can't get your head around it fast and just do music. i use nuendo just for mastering and for getting a better sound out of reason,cos his efffects are really poor. only the rv7000 is awesome. |
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I agree with you on the FX front. I'm hoping there's a better compressor in Reason 3. The tape setting on Scream4 isn't too bad, but it's quite limited. The old (forget the name) one from reason 1/2 (half rack unit) is very poor. |
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yeah,i use tape compression a lot if i have quiet samples,but that just in the first part of the process. i make the whole track in reason, add a bit of echo to see how it sounds then i rewire everything dry and process it through nuendo. later when it's finished i just bounce every sound by itself and do the eq-ing,reverberation and compression in nuendo...and then add the final compression to the overall track. |
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oh and the statement that FL has a shittier sound then reason is bullshit. tests have shown that reason is the crappiest. and that FL studio is as good as cubase soundwise. the thing is that fruity plays samples only at 75% of the volume. that's the thing that people mistake for crappy sound. |
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if you didn't know Reason and Fruit Loops were music software, the title of this thread would appear quite silly. |
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It doesn't matter what I use it all ends up sounding like shit. |
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only the rv7000 is awesome. u can get some good stuff out of the scream disto, too. and the control output on the back rocks, i sometimes use scream without plugging in to the mixer, just for using that output! |
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LOL |
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I use reason, sonar, and live all together. I do prefer reason to FL though |
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amen, brother FLStudio all the way, throw in Cool Edit Pro 2.0 (nka, Adobe Audition) and you've got everything you need |
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FL for me thanks |
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yeah scream is also ok..it has some nice lofi effects,but in general i use rv7000 the most. one point for reason goes for the patching flexibility...floops,cubase,nuendo and others don't have it. |
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Ugg. The effects in reason sound like ass. They really need some better effects. That is what rewire is for, tho. IF you don't want to figure out cubase, just use VSTack. It allows you good effects, instead of the dime-store variety that come complete in every package of reason. |
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Ha, thats what i do FL + Cool edit... and a few minor hardware thingies to make interesting... |
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excuse me??? patching possibilities in fruityloops are more than develloped automation, controlling and signal routing is very well implemented in FL, think about the formula controller, the peak controller, the layer channels, etc etc... |
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That is why floops is really good for microsound. I just don't like the way the vst interface works. Or the rewire interface. Or the way the vst plugs sound while in fruityloops. |
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REASON & ABELTON LIVE !!!!! |
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Fuity rocks, Reason is square |
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explain, please? |
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