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well if you dont trust your democracy... why is that? the civil war (mad guess, im watching north and south)? the whole idea of the states? it makes it kinda wild west, which is a bit cool actually, i think.. why dont you trust your democracy? because it's ruled by an elite and the people have little influence on that? that's not so much different in other countries i think |
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Yeah, money = power which is true everywhere i suppose. If it was a true democracy, then my idea of a voting computer in every household, or public place would be implemented. Basically it removes congress from power and the people vote on everything. However this is only possible with a increase in the quality of education, and a huge govt grant to fund these tiny voting machines. That and congress would never vote to put themselves out of a job. |
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nah, i believe politics should be done by people who know it, it's a job. which doesnt necesseraly mean that the people that are in politics are the most qualified, but it still beats a king that's there because of heritage. mm, george w.. well im shooting off to bed (again) |
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as Bowling for Columbine proved, it's not the guns that really create a violent society... canadians own millions of guns, yet we don't have much crime at all... I live in Newfoundland, in Canada, and lots of people own guns for hunting and stuff... yet there is a person murdered like every couple of years... so yeah, there you go... the guns themselves don't make the violent society... |
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Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people. |
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hepburnenthorpe, no, as I've stated in ... I dunno, throughout the whole fucking thread; .... .. it's for target practice and that's it. I don't have a CCW,I can't legally carry it on me. Maybe you are a bit off in terms of my country's laws. wait, no,... you have no idea what youare talking about |
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Funkmaster, Thanks for actually taking a minu'''''te second out of your life to realize the fact that it is the individual person who creates havoc with guns, instead of an everyday person. Listen, I'm sick and tired of you fucks saying this and that about my country or the gun crazed world. Keep talking. Because I know in real life (i.e. real life) you don't have shit going for you. All you have is this stupid message board (thx, Phob) to try and throw your reason at me. Hah! Keep trying, In real life you don't have shit to go after. You can try and attack me for owning a "fucking, firearm" all you want. Point being, that is all you have. You don't have anything else to base your opinion on....expect the direction of a mindless tool. |
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Don't give me no "Bowling for Columbine" shit, either. You have no idea what you are getting into with that documentary. Hey, .... nevermind, you don't know what yer talkin' about. You can only assume.....and nevermind the rest, yer a bunch of fukin' twats for trying. You don't know the 2nd thing about any of this other than your own logistics on nonsense. good day, you'll need it. |
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All those places in BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE, uhhh guess what? I've been there or lived there ..... can you say the same? No...you can only take a 1sided topic that you agree with and put forth your life's worth and attention fowards. hey, guess what.....hah! you are sooooooo offbalance. continue this debate, or I should say... If you want to talk (when I debate, I solely debat to learn more from the side that I disagree with) then you can aim me at mg89196, ICQ me at 1842269 or call me at 1-248 709 9398 I'm avail. |
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maybe you just have to live through it, to realize.. .......to maybe NOT stereotype an entire country. You folk DO REALIZE, that all I have to do (in southfield, michigan) is drive 50 - to ONE HUNDRED MILES in EITHER DIRECTION to come to a part of land that is 180degrees different than anything I've ever exeperiecned. You DO understand that, Just north of here, you will find people who think on an entirely different level than I could ever imagine. They are not in another country....they are not in another state. They are simply 50 TO ONE HUNDRED miles away. You guys are so foolish. I wish we could have a real life "meet" and see just how fucking accurate everyone really is. You fucking tools....fuck you all...yes,fuck you all |
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Its just a misunderstanding. Lets all relax and meditate. |
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Guns don't kill people. Rappers do! |
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this is too much to read, but i've gotten the gist of it. I'll just air my opinions for the record. Elusive: You don't use a fucking HANDGUN for hunting!!! First of all you'll never get close enough to kill something, secondly, you won't be ABLE to kill ANYTHING even if you hit it! Hunting-rifles are for hunting, handguns are for killing people! Now.. you say you use it for "fun," which is NO way to use a gun! Guns are dead fucking serious, and should NEVER be used for fun! If you claim you are using it for "sport"... well.. I see NO sport in firing a gun. Hitting a target with a bow is MUCH harder (I've tried both, and even withouth having fired a gun before, I hit nothing outside of the 8-point thingie (two circles from the centre. With the bow.. well.. I'd not recommend anyone to stand around the back of that target...)). By buying that handgun, you've supported a HUGE industry that make 97% of their money on war, misery and death! |
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Whoa. |
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"By buying that handgun, you've supported a HUGE industry that make 97% of their money on war, misery and death!" I suppose, then, it is comparable to someone who downloads kiddie porn but doesn't actually abuse children. |
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in the sense that he supports it, and creates a demand for it, and in that way is accomplice in the abuse... |
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k, from the top of my head i've fired a dimaco, fal, glock, mp5, galashnikov, styr, shotgun, garand, lee enfield, a black gun powder pistol, a magnum real high calibur, some others i cant remember and a canon (i dont care that much to remember the correct names) i once shot a platoon leader in a drill with this system where there's laser thingies amounted on the gun that fires blanks which get picked up by a harness that the guy you shoot weares (miles). i did this laying in the bushes from a hundred metres to other bushes with a dimaco with a uhm visor (100 metres is like the minimum you shoot from, but mind this was in 'real' battle). i heard the guy was really fucked after that, being made fun of every staff meeting that he'd been shot by a no-good non-soldier like me (when scouting the platoon leader should stay in the back of the platoon to avoid this). i got nicknamed sergeantkiller and a red baret unofficially awarded. |
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I just don't know about guns. I've been clay pigeon shooting though. That was fun. |
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apart from guns being bad because they kill (i do not like them too much) you can use them for sports. it is hard firing from great distance and taking into account the inaccuracies. you shoot guns and pistols at those point thingies too. best example: winter olympics sport biathlon, with the langlaufen and shooting, that's really hard, having to control your hard breathing from the langlaufen when firing |
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Drunken Mastah has a point. Handguns are not for hunting. A classic example of american attitudes to guns: I do japanese martial art and went ot japan recently to study it. In the dojo there were about 30 people, japanese, american, canadian, germans, czech, irish, english, argentinian. Most people there knew how to handle guns, being either in the security industry (army, police, bodyguards etc). When the grandmaster started doing some techniques with a handgun, using it as a close range percussive weapon (like a hammer) he described the whole last-resort aspect of gun usage. He asked some of the top international teachers there to demonstrate some similar things. One american high-ranking guy took the (replica) gun and started shiteing on about its calibre, how to fire etc. It was fucking embarrasing. He was sooooo into it and into proving how he knew all about guns and he wanted tolecture these proffesionals on his right to bear arms and shit...He missed the fucking entire point of the excersice - last resort, tactical, and proactive use of our skills. He just went off on one, much to the embarassment of more copped-on americans there. The grandmaster stopped him and gave the gun to somebody else. Everyone else in that room was well used to guns but IN CONTEXT and professionally. any other reason is immature. For us its the same as any other weapon...knife, bow, sword, fucking tank. Weilding it gives you the responsibility to use it professionally and for the good of society. Target practice for kicks with a handgun is very childish indeed. |
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I'd feel safer with a big fucking sword in my hand than a gun. |
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I'd feel safer WITHOUT any weapons... if you're unarmed, you're "not a threat." (That, and my hands are deadly weapons... which is why I don't use them for play... hahaha!) |
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thanks fuck ireland (southern) is relatively gun-free. Even some parts of england are getting overgunned! Crazy shit. |
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Good call. |
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this thread is dreamy. |
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:) |
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you're a dreamer (supertramp) |
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My god is this still going? |
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I bought a big fucking gun(Kimber .45) last weekend because a crazy crack head crashed into my fence-> I also like to take my new shiny toy down the street to the cement-block store I bought it from and shoot at little paper targets that I pretend are really small-minded mis-informed Republican fuck-wits like Elusive. and after 40-50 rounds of confettii making catharsis I put my little toy back in it's zippered and locked house and head home content in the knowledge that come crack-head or dick-head I have a remedy that works from a distance. |
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i know, it's bette rthan my laser. |
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Well this thread started out good until these bullshit pussy pasifists started posting in it. Did you see how fast the anti-american comments surfaced? Fucking joke this forum is sometimes. Look if you dont like guns dont post in a thread that is about recreation, hunting etc etc. Fucking be mature and they the fuck out. Damned bunch of whiny children bitching and moaning because they dont have enough drugs to keep them in a hippy induced daze. Anyways i am hoping to pick up the Baretta CX-4 Storm. Note the rant at the begining was not directed at everyone. |
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i tried to get a folding stock for my shotgun on saturday, but since the assault weapon ban only expired last week the dude said they don't have any in stock yet. i'll bet he's just full of shit. i guarantee he had a pile of them in the back. |
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i am kind of late to the game on this one, BUT.... i would never own a gun, simply because i have children. i dont see anything wrong in owning one, but if there is a chance a small child could get a hold of it, its just not the best thing to have around. i figure if i dont own a gun, my kids will be safe. now if i could only get my fellow americans to believe the same stuff, they would be safe wherever they went. |
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guns arre dangerrous. ok. |
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not much left of your woozie woozle wee, is there? |
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i think we all need a group hug. |
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or a small cannon we have to man altogether! GOOOOO TEAM!!! |
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i'd want one. Where i live seems to be ok as of late (minus the guy thats robbing houses all over my neighborhood :/) My friends on the other hand live in an area that has more crime. it is prodominately black. My buddys house was broken into. Another had his car broken into twice in two weeks and they broke into his house. Look if some crackhead is breaking into your place he obviously really needs something and will probably result to violence to get it. You are better off being able to protect yourself |
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that one made me laugh aloud! Thanks alex signed kaleb/brian/panda |
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that'd work too. nothing brings people together like heavy armorment. that's what my great grandpappy winston savage used to always say. |
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why would you buy a handgun? it's like buying an electric chair fuck all those gun-fetish americans |
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"fuck all those gun-fetish americans" Seriously shut the fuck up. Did you read what i posted? Guess fucking not. Some people live in areas that are questionably dangerous. You have the right to protect yourself. Choosing not to do so is foolish in those cases. You might not know what a run down ghetto neighborhood looks like, perhaps that is where you get your paumpus ignorant attitude. Have you ever been jumped? Have you ever had your life threatened? I'd bet not. Morton no offense but seriously come on now! |
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Also for the record i live in a nice neighborhood and usually dont think twice until i have to pick up my buddy from the northside where he lives and works. |
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i hate that 'buy a gun to defend yourself' argument man, i admit that i don't live in a neighbourhood like that, but in fact you're saying that it'd be best (and most safe) for everyone to carry a gun when you live in a dangerous neighbourhood, don't you see that you're going in the whole wrong direction? i for one don't think i'd feel more safe with a gun, when i'd live over there i'd rather be mugged or even shot (i know it's easy to say, but i really do think so) than to carry a gun all my life in case i'd be jumped or threatened, i don't wanna live a life like that i don't know man, it's like giving in to the situation and adapt to it, which'd result in more guns and an even more dangerous world, again, i know it's easy for me to say, but i really would refuse to give in to that kind of situation and walk around with a gun, just in case |
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I understand and respect your viewpoint. But violence isnt going away. But that is whats great about life everyone has different view points and outlooks based on life experiences with various situations! :) Sorry for coming across a bit brash! |
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if everyone had a gun, we could all shoot ourselves at the same time reservoir dogs style and be done with the whole mess. who's in? |
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Mexican standoff |
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