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That is because their music relies on gimmicks and gimmicks are only impressive the first time around. The second time someone passes you a jar of nuts with coiled spring snakes in it, it isn't as cool, unless you like to eat coiled spring snakes. |
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I think I still like even sub standard, newer works by afx, autehre, mu-ziq, even cylob, because you can see it as part of their larger body of work. But new tykes turning up and doing the same old bollocks is just, inexcusable. |
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I think a big part is that the latter releases lack the microscopic control of fast complex detail. I guess fast intricate continually interesting detail is the thing I like most for some reason... but after listening to a few of telefon's new tracks for example, there was very little insane computerized wicked detail as compared with tracks 1,2 and 3 on farenheit. I didn't listen to the rest of the new album though so maye there is. Funkstorung too.. appetite was computerizingly wicked but the new tracks I heard stepped back rather than forward in that respect. Then aphex twin's drukqs is the same relative to come2daddy. Autechre's latter releases, like draft, seem to contain more repetition. There still interesting computer control but there seems to be less effort in doing something awesome with it. Most people don't even share the "intricate/ complex = better" music view as me anyway. |
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wow. what a load of poop said in this thread. Ok, yes technology is making things easier, and therefor more people can create music. While yes, it means more people, with less skill are making music... how is this really a bad thing? I for one, think its great that people can make art. Anything that lets more people create is good. So maybe its not the most amazing stuff in the world, and maybe it doesn't even deserve to be heard by the masses... but if the people making it like it, and it makes them happy then good. You can also look at it from another view point. The more shit there is, there more people will have to work, and the better the result will be. It will make the good stuff, truely great, in order to be recognized from the crap. Say we have someone making this awesome woooshhkaaalalachickawowthickto sound. Thats fucking cool! And it took them 10 hours to just program the woooshhkaaa part. Well, now lets say that there is a program that makes it possible to make that sound in less then an hour. How is this bad? Because people dont have to be hardcore programmers? Uh, excuse me, but we are still talking about music right? Its not whats behind it, but the emotional impact. Yes, sure there is lots of interesting complex stuff that goes into making music, and if you dig that... thats cool. But its important not to be clouded by this fasination with the method (as cool as it can be)... remember music, and what it conveys. So if more programs are around that make making music easier, I say good. It takes the emphasis off of the wanking side of things, and puts more emphasis on the musical application of these things. (and it will push people to go further and further with new developments) so I really think its quite good for everyone |
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Also... ok, so more people are making music. So? Unless you are going around listening to all the artists on netlabels, you are getting your music from a record label who signs, and pays musicians. So isnt it up to the labels to weed out the crap? dont blame people who are impassioned to write music and express themselves. the labels control the flow of quality... so dont blame the people who are just trying to enjoy art. If anyone is to blame, its the labels, for lack of vision and a basic knowledge(intuition) of what is good and what is not. |
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i'm not going to rread that. i have M U C H betterr things to do and you'd betterr believe it. |
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ever since i read autechre have been reading philosophy lately, it does indeed seem their latter tracks have a philosophical theme (if that even makes sense). It's like they're largely focusing on communicating things abstractly "that can't be expressed in words" now regardless of whether the output is a fantastically intricate aural sculpture like they were in ep7/lp5. Parelehic triangle (spelling) is an example. Maybe it's a good companion to some striking philosophical idea, but as far as strict listening goes it's not that pleasant imo. |
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How many times are we going to have that same boring discussion? Fuck it. |
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you guys are all just to fucking spoiled. always wanting to hear something new or innovative. well go make something innovative yourself. or shut up about it. try to enjoy the music as it is. why isn't anyone nagging about techno? techno still sounds the same as it did 20 years ago. you know why? because people just think to much of idm. IT'S JUST MUSIC!!! |
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like i give a shit? it wasnt addressed to you. |
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couldn't agree more. |
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it wasnt addrressed to you... |
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i'd have used the 'rreply' function if it was, dickhead. |
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ever since i read autechre have been reading philosophy lately, it does indeed seem their latter tracks have a philosophical theme It's in their interests to foster the perception that most unsigned artists are crap because when they pay politicians to legislate away the right to possess the means of production and distribution, hey, no great loss, right? So if more programs are around that make making music easier, I say good. It takes the emphasis off of the wanking side of things, and puts more emphasis on the musical i agree with the comments of the original post, although i'm undecided on if it's a good or bad thing. i think i am a great example of this. my music is pretty bad, but at the same time i am grateful to have had the oppurtunity to easily give it a go without spending years learning to play an instrument (though i certainly wish i had) or thousands of dollars on expensive hardware. the only thing i do know for sure is that i hate that pretentious attitude carried by so many nowadays that the ninjatune blurb refers to. Also... ok, so more people are making music. So? Unless you are going around listening to all the artists on netlabels, you are getting your music from a record label who signs, and pays musicians. So isnt it up to the labels to weed out the crap? application of these things. (and it will push people to go further and further with new developments) so I really think its quite good for everyone heard stepped back rather than forward in that respect. Then aphex twin's drukqs is the same relative to come2daddy. Autechre's latter releases, like draft, seem to contain more repetition. There still interesting computer control but there seems to be less effort in doing something awesome with it. Most people don't even share the "intricate/ complex = better" music view as me anyway. what a load of shit. full of generalisation they are the arrogant ones. they just can't stand it anymore not to be the few elitists who |
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let's all just leave for a bit, rub one out, and come back without all this frustration. |
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alright but even in the context of this thread, the thread wasnt addressed to you. so I stand by my remark. |
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thats a bit hard to follow mate |
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Gwely Mernans from South Surrey (Canada) on 2004-07-18 14:48 |
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I never tire of this conversation because I really like music, especially electronica, and I hate to see it go the way of shite. |
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so bloody what... it wasn't addrressed to you eitherr but you didn't see me being a prrick about yourr post. |
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you sure seem to have enough time to comment on this thread, and then wait around to read the replies, and then respond. if you dont want to be a part of this thread, leave now. youre adding nothing to this except to inform us that you have better things to do (which obviously you dont) so stfu |
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sometimes im so astonished by the childishness of this board, i check some of your profiles to see how old you are but allot of the time thats not listed, i wonder why. |
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I heard disturbing news that there is now also "tuneless music"!!!!!! |
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Oh! you are making a text mashup. Very nice. |
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I so wish we could have an actual, real fight over this. |
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I don't know what side I'm on so I'll just walk around punching people. |
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technology is shit. IDM is an artificial therm with no sense actually. braindance is an attitude. this post is my opinion. shut up! |
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Holy shit, music is really going downhill. |
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im on your side! *punches you in face* teeeheeeee |
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(which obviously you dont) You don't say. |
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I'm writing a plugin that punches electronic musicians. |
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If I lived next doorr to you, I swearr to God I'd piss on yourr flowerr bed. |
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so, you're admiting that your initial post had no real value? and that you're just posting to initiate negative responses? flame baiting? a troll? |
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yeah? i would file a soil contamination lawsuit against you :O |
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speaking of rubbing one out, have you heard draft 7.30? |
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i love when people act like idiots, to coverr the fact, that they rreally arre idiots. |
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I am going to smack Zeus, then cowardly attempt to push over wMw, and then Anus will suckerpunch me and I'll vomit into a hedge and then retire. |
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i'd tell |
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I know.. before we know it we won't be dancing to music!! |
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grrow up |
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if I say you win... will you just fuck off? you win anus. youve beaten me. your wit is amazing. enough of this bullshit. |
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bloody hell |
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don't do it!!!!!!! |
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I'M NOT FALLING FOR THAT ONE!! |
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Passion, that's what's missing. Music is dead, long live Message Boards. |
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i'll probably end up clicking on it next week when this topic is bumped back up to the top at some point. |
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oh now you're grasping at straws.. and vague ones at that! |
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talk is cheap, music is priceless. |
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thats why i enjoy music with no vocals. |
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