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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2004-07-19 19:26 [#01280816]
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why should i give the slightest fuck about this horrible dreadful embarrassing "idm" dispute?? i know i did´nt when i started making music. just listen to whatever you like or don´t.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-07-19 19:28 [#01280818]
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hey, i haven't read any of this thread but it must be interesting judging by the number of posts. so if you wouldn't mind, could somebody summarize the entire discussion to thus far? it will save me a lot of time and such.
thanks,
evolume
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-07-19 19:38 [#01280826]
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aristotle thinks amateur musicians making IDM has ruined the genre. some people agree, some people don't.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-07-19 19:43 [#01280834]
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'IDM' is boring now, teens with dedicated 'IDM' software spewing out clone style nonsense. artists that created the 'IDM' paradigm were drawing their influences from techno, electro, world music, ambient, jazz, synth pop,
new wave, house, acid, dub, classical etc etc etc 90% of todays bedroom button pushers only influence is IDM, so it becomes like a snake eating it's own tail.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-19 19:51 [#01280843]
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so maybe we should all just start using clean samples from "old" 'IDM', like AFX, ae, BoC etc.
no further manipulation, just clean snippets and then finally the whole thing will implode on itself with a huge belch-like sound.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-07-19 19:55 [#01280847]
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I didn't say that! that was a sumarization of the 'brains' of XLT... I can't express my inner thoughts on this matter...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-19 19:59 [#01280854]
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nah, silly, I said that. that's why my name was on the top of the post HA HA HA HA.
I'm thinking of starting my own genre - Thora Hirdcore!!
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-07-19 20:01 [#01280859]
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This is Hirdcore
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-19 20:03 [#01280865]
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-07-19 20:05 [#01280866]
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I'm finding it Hird to believe! I know I've told you before but..... I've 'got to goto where they film last of the summer wine' in two days!! My birds mum is here again for the weekend....jesus......
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-07-19 20:07 [#01280870]
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Perhaps as featured in "Last of the Summer Whine about How Bad IDM is now".
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-19 20:08 [#01280871]
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you've told me before..? I can't remember that.. anyway, that is totally HIRDCORE!!
I can't stand "last of the summer wine". my parents like to watch it. it makes my brain bleed.
you're going to do some lovely hiking there, eh?
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optimus prime
on 2004-07-19 20:22 [#01280901]
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idm is a music parody.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-07-19 23:12 [#01280961]
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it's like skateboarding. now everybody's doing it, but every once-in-a-while a Danny Way or Steve Olson comes along and blowed up your fukin' mind. but there is always some skinny dork, slippin' around in his fruit boots thinkin' he be tony hawk.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-07-19 23:16 [#01280962]
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the white stripes can make kick ass songs with just a fucking guitar and a drum kit.
it doesn't matter what you use, or how much it cost you. if it's good, it's good.
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2004-07-20 04:12 [#01281010]
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i don't know any music maker whose main influence is "I.D.M"
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Bill Burroughs
from Colombia on 2004-07-20 04:34 [#01281018]
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liar. most of the online amateur electronica-producing community (that this very site is part of) would cite IDM records in their top ten influences.
it's a staggeringly observant comment that the majority of the new 'IDM' wannabes are mostly if not entirely influenced by nothing other than IDM.
a snake eating its own tail indeed.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-20 04:58 [#01281029]
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I'd have to agree with that.
but in the end - this all isn't a problem. more people make music, you still have to keep your ears open to find the stuff you like.
that's the whole point about this thread - the problem presented here solely exists in the minds of people. it's only as much a problem as you make it yourselves.
let every other person make an "album" (collection of 128 k/s mp3s) and present it on their "label" (bit of webspace) - if you want, go ahead. maybe there's more shit to wade through, but there will always be interesting and/or worthwhile music to be found.
yarr.
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Bremzen
from utrecht (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-20 06:03 [#01281077]
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that about wraps it up!
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-20 10:58 [#01281279]
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i think it's safe to say that some very poignant points have been made here today, and also that some egos have perhaps been bruised.
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neetta
from Finland on 2004-07-20 11:23 [#01281300]
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i have no energy to go trough the whole thread filled with irrelevancy but isn't it all just about good music?
idm for me is good music. who cares who makes it? i know many many many brilliant bedroom musicians (including the people i live with).
there is good old idm, good new idm (though not many artists have a long lifespan), and most of all good music that isn't idm.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-20 11:48 [#01281335]
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HEY! this was wrapped up!!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-07-20 11:53 [#01281343]
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*glares at core*
yoouuuu
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