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dave from canada on 2002-01-12 18:03 [#00068814] | |||||||||
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what do you think gods real name is? |
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Xanatos from NYC on 2002-01-12 18:10 [#00068817] | |||||||||
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Hy A Scullyas Lyf A Dhagrow |
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Caserol Joe the Chubby from Minneapolis on 2002-01-12 18:25 [#00068820] | |||||||||
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He has all names and I must thank him for the new Board of Canada album. |
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Old Beatnik from Las Vegas on 2002-01-12 18:27 [#00068822] | |||||||||
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don't you have to beleive in something, to give it a name, otherwise it just isn't, it has no being anyway is god a name or a description, ie romans believed in many GODS, Apollo, Jupiter, Zeus (oh wait he's greek).............how about "the first sadist" |
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The_Funkmaster from Newfoundland, Canada on 2002-01-12 18:28 [#00068823] | |||||||||
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his name is geoGODdi |
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wht from hehe on 2002-01-12 18:44 [#00068838] | |||||||||
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his name is fat kaimo |
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Jimmy from DE on 2002-01-12 18:55 [#00068839] | |||||||||
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his real name is ñ#^#4ßôR4÷+÷%4sê#89&&%(!)%Jjd&*@&! |
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bumblefuk on 2002-01-12 19:00 [#00068841] | |||||||||
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god can go fuck himself! fuck god! |
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Aron? from Canada on 2002-01-12 19:10 [#00068844] | |||||||||
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i agree with bumblefuk. fuck all that religon shit. **uhhh, no offence to religious people. that's just my opinion.** |
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Old Beatnik from Las Vegas on 2002-01-12 19:17 [#00068847] | |||||||||
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people can believe whatever the fuck they want (whether its rational or not) but organized religion is fucked up, organized means corrupt |
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/-T|K|R-\\\\ from the start on 2002-01-12 19:22 [#00068848] | |||||||||
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It's Aphex twin! I'm the winner |
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Jedi Chris from Tatooine on 2002-01-12 19:25 [#00068850] | |||||||||
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I'm not a religious person myself, and wouldn't really have a clue to what his/her name really is. But something I have noticed is that all the big trouble seems to be happening in places which have strong religous history. It just makes me think, that if all these people in the middle east participating in war believe in god - then they've all got one way tickets to hell! |
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The_Funkmaster from Newfoundland, Canada on 2002-01-12 19:40 [#00068855] | |||||||||
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I believe in God, and all that, but I do agree that religion is bullshit... like in Christianity for instance, how can religions like Catholicism and The Pentecostal church, etc, lay down exactly what is said in the bible, what it all means, etc, etc... it's not that easy... |
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The_Funkmaster from Newfoundland, Canada on 2002-01-12 19:41 [#00068856] | |||||||||
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and another thing is, where do they get the right to do that? |
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Old Beatnik from Las Vegas on 2002-01-12 19:43 [#00068857] | |||||||||
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what do you mean "and all that" |
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Jedi Chris from Tatooine on 2002-01-12 19:49 [#00068861] | |||||||||
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Maybe you should read your religions 'scared text' and interpret it however you wish - in your own way! But then like I said, i'm not a religous person.If I were, I'd be sat somewhere very hot, and I'm not talking about Spain or the south of France! |
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Dave from the start on 2002-01-12 19:50 [#00068862] | |||||||||
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what do you think gods real name is? |
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/-T|K|R-\ from the start on 2002-01-12 19:51 [#00068863] | |||||||||
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It's Aphex twin! I'm the winner |
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Jedi Chris from Tatooine on 2002-01-12 19:54 [#00068864] | |||||||||
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I don't think were gonna get any real answers here so lets just agree with /-T|K|R-\ yeah?? |
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The_Funkmaster from Newfoundland, Canada on 2002-01-12 19:56 [#00068865] | |||||||||
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by all that I mean the bible... I do believe in it, but I'm not really a religion person... |
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Old Beatnik from Las Vegas on 2002-01-12 20:11 [#00068868] | |||||||||
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why? it all just seems so improbable and irrational there was perhaps Jesus, a guy who had interesting ideas, but probably no miracles (in the strictest sense anyway) |
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Jedi Chris from Tatooine on 2002-01-12 20:16 [#00068870] | |||||||||
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Jesus could just of been a politician of the times - corrupt just like the modern day ones! |
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Jedi Chris from Tatooine on 2002-01-12 20:19 [#00068871] | |||||||||
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Going back to what 'Old Beatnik' said about the romans, god is just a title. As in "he was a god...." a rank of sorts! In fact can we believe in anything that is really written in the modern day bible, it's probably been so distorted over the years..... God could have been called 'Tom' or 'Homer Simpson' for all we know :-) |
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dave from canada on 2002-01-12 20:22 [#00068872] | |||||||||
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i agree with the funkmaster, oh and by the way, that wasent me from before ? |
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umbriel from quebec...the old on 2002-01-12 20:34 [#00068879] | |||||||||
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organized religion is shit on a stick but religion in itself isnt. i believe in some higher force, something greater than all. maybe god to me is just ALL. the one. |
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Ophecks from Nova Scotia on 2002-01-12 20:39 [#00068885] | |||||||||
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God equals John Lennon |
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/-T|K|R-\\\\ from the start on 2002-01-12 20:49 [#00068896] | |||||||||
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I'm god, no we are all god! do we not create? |
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Jedi Chris from Tatooine on 2002-01-12 20:51 [#00068899] | |||||||||
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...in a manner of speaking I suppose! |
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Jarworski from Wales on 2002-01-12 21:06 [#00068906] | |||||||||
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God goes under many names: Cormac Battle Josh Homme Mike Patton But really, his proper name is Patrick Bateman |
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The_Funkmaster from Newfoundland, Canada on 2002-01-12 21:08 [#00068909] | |||||||||
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well the whole thing with religion is having faith... if you can't make a leap of faith, and say that God does exist without proof, then religion is not for you I guess... you aren't gonna prove that God exists or doesn't exist... it's even rather funny that we try to prove that a supernatural entity exists or doesn't with our technology... if God did exist, why should we be able to prove it's existence with our low level of technology... |
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Darth manchu on 2002-01-12 21:10 [#00068910] | |||||||||
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The bible - talk about preachy. Did you know practically everythings a sin? Anyway, i put sith on my census form. |
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nene on 2002-01-12 21:12 [#00068911] | |||||||||
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emmanuel...............lewis! |
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Old Beatnik from Las Vegas on 2002-01-12 22:46 [#00068949] | |||||||||
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does that mean i have to take a leap of faith each time i eat my toast, (i prefer to beleive in my toatst you know), because to be honest i can't prove it exists, sure i can touch it, smell it, eat it, see it, but what does that prove? i don't know that i exist, i presume i do, but thats exactly what it is, a presumption, based on seeming conciousness......i dunno, maybe i should try cereal. |
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Jedi Chris from Tatooine on 2002-01-12 22:51 [#00068950] | |||||||||
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maybe we live in the Matrix??? |
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Old Beatnik from Las Vegas on 2002-01-12 22:55 [#00068951] | |||||||||
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fuck that shit.....the matrix still has some reality, and people exist even if they aren't there....and there's definitely a reality where people exist outside the 'matrix'.....besides that wasn't what i was getting at |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-12 22:58 [#00068953] | |||||||||
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its not up to anyone to prove that something does NOT exist, u need to prove that it DOES (beyond a resonalbe doubt). ie, u cant prove that theres no ivisible big red dog living on my roof. but i cant prove that there is therefore we can know that there isn't if we believed in everything that we couldn't DISprove, then we would belive in anything and everything if there is absolutly no evidence or supporting arguments for something to exist, we dont have to try to come up w/ ones that prove that it doesn't, its already been shown not to exist by the lack of proof that it does... know what i mean? |
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Old Beatnik from Las Vegas on 2002-01-12 23:05 [#00068954] | |||||||||
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well put |
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Jedi Chris from Tatooine on 2002-01-12 23:10 [#00068955] | |||||||||
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Nice one AMinal - I agree too! |
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/-T|K|R-\\\\ from the start on 2002-01-12 23:15 [#00068957] | |||||||||
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the lack of proof that it does isn't enuff we need more |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-13 00:53 [#00068994] | |||||||||
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thanks jedi chris, old beatnik |
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Caserol Joe the Chubby from Minneapolis on 2002-01-13 03:40 [#00069027] | |||||||||
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I'm not religous at all, but spirituality plays a big part in my life. IMO, Jesus was likely a very loving man who touched a lot of peoples lives. Whether or not he made miracles is not extremely important. If your life was changed and so were many of your friends' lives, all by one man's wisdom, you would tell other people, but to them it would not be very amazing as they did not share your expeience. And so, some may have said that he performed miracles to get across the point of how amazing Jesus was. And of course, anything is possible, so he may very wel have done some miraculous things. Just because we don't witness something in everyday life doesn't mean it won't or didn't happen. One thousand years from now we will likely be doing "miraculous" things. The laws of physics don't prohibit the things that we consider miraculous, they just make it so the probabilities of such things hapening are unlikely. I just gather all this from thinking it through logically, which is of course suseptable (sp?) to error. |
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Caserol Joe the Chubby from Minneapolis on 2002-01-13 03:45 [#00069028] | |||||||||
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And regarding God (names don't matter to me at this pont), I believe that we're all cells within the earth's consciousness, which is a cell within the solar systems consciousness, which is a cell within the galaxy's consciousness... which is a cell within the consciousness of God (maybe the consciousness of eternal infinity?), just like our cells are cells within oursleves. |
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Caserol Joe the Chubby from Minneapolis on 2002-01-13 03:46 [#00069029] | |||||||||
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...like umbriel said; all, the one. |
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Caserol Joe the Chubby from Minneapolis on 2002-01-13 03:52 [#00069031] | |||||||||
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Sorry AMinal, but who said that we should believe in everything that we can't disprove? Are you saying that we should not believe in anything we can't prove? I just need to verify your standpoint. |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-13 04:56 [#00069043] | |||||||||
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belief is the opposite of knowledge idealy, i think we shouldn't believe in anything we cant prove but of course we cant prove anything 100% therefore we should believe in nothing yes, i realize that this is very impractical, in fact, practically impossible but if u want to be rational... follow through on it and be completely logical none of this half-assed rationale |
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The_Funkmaster from Newfoundland, Canada on 2002-01-13 05:50 [#00069045] | |||||||||
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I dunno, I do believe in God... if you don't, that's fine... I respect that, as I hope you respect my beliefs... but I'm just saying, and some people do believe that God doesn't exist, mainly because it can't be proven one way or the other... The movie Contact dealt with this well I think... and trying to prove that God exists or not with our level of technology is kinda nieve... but for me, sure I can't prove God exists, but it makes more sense that the universe was planned, and created by something, rather then it just coming together automatically over billions of years... I don't know, that explanation just doesn't work for me... like what caused the big bang? Where did the original dust particles come from to form the planets and stuff? I dunno, that's just my view... but if you disagree, that's cool... |
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The_Funkmaster from Newfoundland, Canada on 2002-01-13 05:52 [#00069046] | |||||||||
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plus theres the thing where you believe there must be something more then this life, something bigger... you live, then you die, there must be something else... but again, this is just my personal belief... |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-13 06:02 [#00069050] | |||||||||
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life, and therefore death, is an illusion u are no more alive than a stone or a galaxy. what would make you "alive"? life is a chemical reaction. technically, life is supposed to have certain characteristics: reproduces, intereacts w/ an eviroment. but these are all very superficial trates most people who have given any thought to though have realized that a car (for example) does not exist. it is a pile of atoms, and our brain merely generalizes it and creates the idea of a car. the car is in your head the only thing that actually exists is a pile of atoms. furthermore, "you" cannot be alive because you, much like the car, do not exist. if we (well, a lot of people even casually versed in philosophy anyway) can recognise that the car does not exist, but is merely an idea, why cant we recognise the same about "living" things? |
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bumblefuk on 2002-01-13 06:57 [#00069067] | |||||||||
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people mold and twist their own subjective world view of reality to a delusion that makes us feel important and significant, because we rationalize that we MUST be important and significant. we want to deny our probable mundane, mortal nature, because we don't like objective reality. we all do this, it is a universal of the human condition. religion is the basis of the lies that we use to support our rationalization, of our warped worldview. even if i thought christianity had some truth to it, i still would not "worship" this god, or have faith in religion. and if this god, who suppossedly "loves" me as an individual no matter what, as long as i pledge alleigence to his religion (mass unconditional love is pretty meaningless), does not respect my free will... well, he can go fuck off. and if this great god would be seriously offended that i, one of 6 billion people, told him to fuck off, i wouldn't want to worship that type of god anyway (the bit about taking god's name in vain in the ten commandments is really about curses, literally curses, but since modern christianity says that curses are pagan, they sort of ignore the curse stuff now). of course people will then say that i should respect their religion (of course they don't respect me... but). every society in history has basic laws and philiosophy concerning family and murder and stealing being naughty, because otherwise there would be anarchy and therefore no society. these ideas are not unique to monotheistic religion. i don't respect christianity because it tends to always end up about "ME" (not me, but "me" as every individual), and people always seem disatisified about how they they feel life is treating them because they ought to be getting better, because after all they are following the "right" religion and are such a good person, and "us vs. them", "us" being the group that whoever you are identifies with, which is always considered superior to every other group which you don't identify with, which is obviously the rationalization for a lot of hate. so there. i'm not saying i know what is "right", i'm just trying to figure out just what the fuck reality. i waste of time, i'm afriad, but i still wanna try. |
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The_Funkmaster from Newfoundland, Canada on 2002-01-13 07:03 [#00069070] | |||||||||
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that's your opinion... Christianity isn't what you said... some people who call themselves Christians may fit into the little stereotype you just outlined, but that does not include the whole religion... so quit stereotyping people for goodness sake... |
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