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BRIDUV from USA on 2002-01-13 23:19 [#00069356] | |||||||||
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but then it does seem depressing to think that when we die..thats it gone...but who knows...not i |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-13 23:19 [#00069357] | |||||||||
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exactly (previous post) religion tells people what to do so they dont have to think for themselves and what religion tells us to do changes all the time! it reflects what people WANT it to tell them to do! ie, in the middle ages, religion told us to burn whiches, religion tells anti-abortionists to.. i dunno, do their thing religion tells terrorists what to do religion tellls doctors what to do(yes of course it tells people to do a lot of positive stuff to... but r u seriously telling me that if it wasn't for the bible.. u wouldn't know that stealing/killing was wrong?) |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-13 23:20 [#00069358] | |||||||||
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ahh! it happened again! when i was refering to "previous post" it was actually a few posts back, sorry |
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The_Funkmaster from Newfoundland, Canada on 2002-01-13 23:21 [#00069359] | |||||||||
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well here's another idea... if you want to talk about the existence of God, why not talk about the existence of Satan? If there is a God at work, why couldn't their be another being at work trying to fool things up, and shit... but really, this discussion is pointless, cause we each have our own views, and we're not gonna prove anyone right or wrong... |
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Jedi Chris from Tattooine on 2002-01-13 23:21 [#00069360] | |||||||||
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When you say "when we die..thats it gone" .... there could be life after death, i.e. re-incarnation - but then that's 'off topic' isn't it? |
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BRIDUV from USA on 2002-01-13 23:22 [#00069362] | |||||||||
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any other opnions??speak people |
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BRIDUV from USA on 2002-01-13 23:24 [#00069363] | |||||||||
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no one is trying to convince anyone otherwise of thiers beliefe...its just a discusscion |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-13 23:25 [#00069364] | |||||||||
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ya briduv i started posting on this post cus i was hoping to discuss and here some new interesting ideas, not to try to convince people of anything |
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Jedi Chris from Tattooine on 2002-01-13 23:25 [#00069367] | |||||||||
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The idea of Satan being responsible for all the bad things, is the same as God responsible for all the good things - I personally prefer to think that these things just happen, and it's out of our control (to a certain extent!) |
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Jedi Chris from Tattooine on 2002-01-13 23:27 [#00069371] | |||||||||
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Do either of you believe in re-incarnation AMinal and Briduv? |
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BRIDUV from USA on 2002-01-13 23:29 [#00069372] | |||||||||
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never really thought about it hard to be honest |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-13 23:29 [#00069373] | |||||||||
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ya if satan were responsible for all bad things.. and humans were responsible for all good things.. (even though "good" and "bad" are human creations themselves..) then u dont have to think very hard to realize that just doesn't work! then are humans (or any other living thing) not responisble for anything good or bad that they do? r we just puppets? (yes, god/satan must be making me type this right now) plus everyone's definition of good/bad is subjective some might say sept 11 was satans work... and people somewhere else are thanking god for this merical |
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BRIDUV from USA on 2002-01-13 23:31 [#00069374] | |||||||||
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exactly good and bad are defined by society...which is created by man good nor bad were created by any god they do not exist...only where sociarty defines them do they have precidence |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-13 23:31 [#00069375] | |||||||||
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jedi chris, i used to believe in reincarnation, ya (i actually used to be really spiritual) but not anymore the idea sort of still interests me though... i'd be open to teh idea if it had some good supporting ideas |
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BRIDUV from USA on 2002-01-13 23:33 [#00069377] | |||||||||
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It all depends on peoples morals which are set by society they live in...it is so subjective |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-13 23:34 [#00069378] | |||||||||
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i heard that some really young kids (really rarely) seem to recall memories of past lives.. things they could not come up w/ on their own ive been meaning to read up on the topic a little more |
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BRIDUV from USA on 2002-01-13 23:35 [#00069379] | |||||||||
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jedi chris, Aminal..what age category do you fall in. just curious of the age of the head that these thoughts are coming from |
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The_Funkmaster from Newfoundland, Canada on 2002-01-13 23:35 [#00069380] | |||||||||
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I guess I am a Christian and stuff, and I have experienced all the things about being turned off from Christianity and all that... I once scrapped my beliefs in God, because of all that which is stupid... I do believe in God, so who cares what other people do... so that's my view now, I don't let other peoples hypocrisy bother me, cause I'm sure people probably think I'm a hypocrite... well, all I can say to someone who might think that is that I'm not perfect... as far as proof of the existence of God, well I have personal proof... I've experienced things in my life, personal things, that prove to me that God does exist... now I know that's not good enough for a lot of people... |
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zetre on 2002-01-13 23:36 [#00069381] | |||||||||
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So, you´re saying that all the people in Africa who´s got AIDS deserved it?! |
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Jedi Chris from Tattooine on 2002-01-13 23:36 [#00069382] | |||||||||
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The idea of re-incarnation is hard to get to grips with for me . . the fact that you wouldn't remember the life you had, in a previous life...and so on! |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-13 23:37 [#00069383] | |||||||||
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Briduv, i was actually just thinking of asking the same thing im 17, u? |
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BRIDUV from USA on 2002-01-13 23:37 [#00069384] | |||||||||
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christianity in its purest form is ideal...so i give you kudos for achieveing it...the theory of it is pure few people live by it though |
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Jedi Chris from Tattooine on 2002-01-13 23:38 [#00069385] | |||||||||
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Briduv - I'm 29 |
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BRIDUV from USA on 2002-01-13 23:38 [#00069386] | |||||||||
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i am also 17 |
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BRIDUV from USA on 2002-01-13 23:39 [#00069387] | |||||||||
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just a young lad |
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BRIDUV from USA on 2002-01-13 23:39 [#00069388] | |||||||||
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god damn 29 i bet you feel old |
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The_Funkmaster from Newfoundland, Canada on 2002-01-13 23:40 [#00069389] | |||||||||
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well Zetre, no, I'm not saying that the people in Africa with aids deserve it... when did I say that? |
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BRIDUV from USA on 2002-01-13 23:40 [#00069390] | |||||||||
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well wait in tattoonie years thats what 10? |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-13 23:41 [#00069391] | |||||||||
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jedi chris, ya i dont take the idea of reincarnation that seriously.. but still, i would not pre-emptively (spelling?) dismiss it those little kids that remember shit are pretty cool... but like i said i have to read more.. and i think that chances are overwhelming that it has some other explanation |
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Jedi Chris from Tattooine on 2002-01-13 23:41 [#00069392] | |||||||||
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Nice one! You'll be an old pensioner like me one day !! ;-) |
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BRIDUV from USA on 2002-01-13 23:41 [#00069393] | |||||||||
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its good to have diversity in age groups different perspectives |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-13 23:42 [#00069394] | |||||||||
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of course most religions are based on pretty nice ideals.. but no-one actually follows through on them they believe only as far as is convenient for them |
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The_Funkmaster from Newfoundland, Canada on 2002-01-13 23:43 [#00069395] | |||||||||
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I think that Christians have a bad name because a small part of the Christian population may be hypocrites who preach one thing, and do another, and judge people, and all that... but true Christians are not like that, and it's a shame that Christians have been stereotyped like that... and another thing that you must realize, nothing about Christianity says that you become perfect when you become a Christian... sometimes I feel like people expect that... the thing is, we have certain beliefs, and we TRY to stick by them as best as possible... |
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BRIDUV from USA on 2002-01-13 23:43 [#00069396] | |||||||||
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yes i too hope to one day achieve archival status of 29..assuming i live that long |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-13 23:44 [#00069397] | |||||||||
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jedi chris: lol briduv: ya i agree (i have a feeling that by the time i hit the post button so many msgs will be there that this will sound very out of place) lol |
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zetre on 2002-01-13 23:44 [#00069398] | |||||||||
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I dunno, it wasn´t really directed towards you. I was just trying to make a meaningful contribution to the debate!(admittedly without reading the other posts..) |
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BRIDUV from USA on 2002-01-13 23:45 [#00069399] | |||||||||
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A SMALL POrtion...your joking right?? ide say more than a small portion of the flock have gone astray |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-13 23:45 [#00069400] | |||||||||
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ya i was right;) |
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The_Funkmaster from Newfoundland, Canada on 2002-01-13 23:45 [#00069401] | |||||||||
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Aminal: No, noone follows through with them to the full, that's true, because noone is perfect... but not everyone limits their beliefs and practices to what is convenient... yet again people are stereotyped... |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-13 23:46 [#00069402] | |||||||||
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lol, ya that flock is pretty astray as far as flocks go ive seen sheep with more disciplin |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-13 23:47 [#00069403] | |||||||||
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funkmaster wooaa big fella, i didn't mean that EVERYONE limits their beliefs to what is convenient just hte overwhelming majority |
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The_Funkmaster from Newfoundland, Canada on 2002-01-13 23:47 [#00069404] | |||||||||
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I mean a small portion being people like Televangelist and stuff who use the Christian religion to make money, stuff like that... people who cheapen Christianity... I don't mean a small portion make mistakes and stuff, cause everyone makes mistakes... |
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BRIDUV from USA on 2002-01-13 23:47 [#00069405] | |||||||||
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haha |
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The_Funkmaster from Newfoundland, Canada on 2002-01-13 23:48 [#00069406] | |||||||||
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heh, 143 posts... :) |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-13 23:50 [#00069408] | |||||||||
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ya i just noticed that (143 posts) this is getting LONG its actually taking a while to load... |
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BRIDUV from USA on 2002-01-13 23:50 [#00069409] | |||||||||
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as much as i am enjoying this discussion i must regretfully resign my opnion hopefully to comeback another day...(probably later tonight) work calls the fucking 8-5 shift it is |
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BRIDUV from USA on 2002-01-13 23:51 [#00069411] | |||||||||
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thanks for the banter fellows |
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AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-13 23:51 [#00069412] | |||||||||
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later briduv |
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BRIDUV from USA on 2002-01-13 23:52 [#00069413] | |||||||||
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later all |
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Jedi Chris from Tattooine on 2002-01-13 23:53 [#00069414] | |||||||||
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see yah Briduv - I gotta go too guys! |
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