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I'm looking for decent, low resource usage Shell Replacements for Windows XP. I tried the newer builds of LiteStep, but it's really gone downhill in the past few years. Explorer is running fast enough under Virtual PC, but I'd like to see if any other shells will run as fast (or hopefully faster) |
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Just buy a PC...how many PC owners do you know who want to run a Virtual Mac? None...why?...because everything they ever need is on the PC and a lot cheaper and easily available. Just a side note...I have never once experienced a crash in Windows XP. Good day. |
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max msp made my xp crash but that might have been a bad crack |
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did the program crash or the whole operating system? |
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They don't crash but they are awfully slow and suck at multi tasking, especially compared to win2k. |
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No they aren't...they use the Win2k core, you are perpetuating a myth. |
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wait why do you need virtual pc to run explorer? |
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Well I had win2k and then I put on winXP. This is experience speeking. |
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>ecnadniarb ok, where did i mention about XP crashing? *methinks ecnadniarb is in a fight mongering mood* how have you been this week anyways? hope it's been ok for you? >roygbivcore i need Virtual PC to run explorer because I have a PowerBook |
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It depends what you were trying to run. I accept some packages would run more efficiently on Win2k but that had no real support for games and shit. Windows XP is a proper operating system, and for the price of a Mac you can get a powerful as fuck Windows box. |
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ecnadniarb is right mate Windows XP is basically Windows NT 5.1 whereas Windows 2000 is Windows NT 5.0 Windows XP is really just Windows 2000 with shitty visual themes added |
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i still don't get why you can't run explorer on a power book is it a shitty power book? |
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Well I have disabled all themes, all aditional services, transfered all the settings I had from 2k and XP run like shit concerning tasks suck as: i)Sound card incompatibilities with games which I never had with 2k(and I have the same drivers) ii)Burning cds take up much more resources as well as dvd playback iii)Problems with antialiasing I never had with 2k (and I have the latest drivers installed) oh and on 2k I never experienced a problem with any game. So there you have it. |
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an Apple PowerBook runs the Macintosh Operating System known as Mac OS X. I am running version 10.3.4 of this operating system. It is not an intel based machine, therefore cannot run explorer natively. It can however emulate a PC, so I use Virtual PC to run Windows |
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just out of curiosity, is the copy of Windows XP that you installed a pirate copy? Sometimes pirate copies of software is fucked up. I have had a couple of duff copies of Win98 in the past |
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OK so you had hardware driver problems under XP, that isn't the fault of the operating system. |
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NO I DON'T UNDERSTAND I CAN RUN IT FINE ON MY iBOOK |
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Yeah it is a pirated copy, but I could claim the same as the above with my brother's laptop. He had an original copy of XP home edition. |
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Don't waste my time again. |
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DVD-Roms and CD writers have no drivers... so I could only guess it's the XP. Also tasks such as explorer take more time to load compared to 2k. The same occured with my previous computer. Look I can't claim I know more than the basics here but I'm not talking out of my ass. |
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i think the wizard has fucked with your head mate, because Mac OS X cannot run programs made for intel chips |
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well, if you're running XP Home then that's basically the equivalent of Windows Me and Windows Me was an abomination |
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Wrong...DVD-Roms and CD Writers do have drivers...as to the interfaces they are connected via. ps. you are talking out of your ass. |
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No I'm running pro. Anyway my argument was crushed to the ground. |
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everything, i believe first there was this crackling sound |
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Wrong...Windows XP Home is essentially identical with the Pro edition with certain administration and services disabled/removed because they weren't deemed necessary for the nonpower user. The core of the operating system and critical services are identical on both Home and Pro versions. |
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It sounds as though you have done something, or the cracked version has managed, to max out the processor which can give the impression of the PC freezing up. |
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What is that supposed to mean anyway? My software is up to date, my hardware is far from ancient and certainly not obscure. That should mean that XP is less compatible. Therefore your post was pointless. |
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oh, i thought Home Edition was a considerably crippled version of Professional Edition thank you for correcting me :) |
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Maybe. I doubt I can argue about technical stuff. |
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anyways, seeing how this thread has totally gone off topic, i'd just like to ask again what are some decent shell replacements for Windows XP. I'd like something that is as customizable as LiteStep is.......if at all possible. what's your favorite replacement? :) |
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um should i take a picture of my osx running explorer cause i totally can |
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You were using a 'cracked' version of XP. 'cracked' versions are often just developmental builds of the software (even cracked versions on so called corporate licenses), as such core optimisation won't have taken place, drivers are often incomplete or could be missing altogether. |
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go ahead then but the fact of the matter is that no version of Mac OS X can run explorer (without the help of an application such as WINE or DARWINE) |
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what are you on about? The whole windows GUI IS explorer. You can't run WindowsXP without explorer. |
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do you happen to know the version ranges of the development versions of XP? i'm curious to know if the one I have is a dev copy my version is 5.1.2600 that's what the Commnd Prompt says anyways |
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yes i know it is what i am stating is that you cannot run explorer.exe under Mac OS X, which is what roygbivcore is claiming that you can do which you cannot, not without using a program like WINE or DARWINE...and even then that's most likely using X11 |
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Man you talk like a technical support person... and are about as knowledgeable. |
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Then how would you explain the similar lock downs of explorer etc on my brother's laptop with an original copy of XP home, when the problems disappeared when I installed 2k. |
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Build 2600 was the last developmental build and isn't a final release copy. |
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damn :( well, i haven't experienced any problems so far with it hopefully it's a stable build |
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Was your brothers laptop designed to run on WindowsXP or did it originally ship with another operatig system? |
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It was shipped with the XP home ed. cd. |
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Then if he was having problems he could have returned the laptop and get them to send him a proper one. It could have been a memory related thing there though, WinXP does require more memory to run due to graphical requirements...but as I previously mentioned Win2k couldn't really be used in a home environment. |
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The point of this topic is you are asking for a replacement for a shell replacement for Explorer though...I still don't understand you. |
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not that i use it but my os x works fine with explorer. (no use of wine etc...) |
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no i'm not asking for a replacement for a shell replacement i'm just asking for a shell replacement you know, like LiteStep? but LiteStep is shit now |
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Are you and royg talking about internet explorer for mac by any chance? |
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i'm sorry, but you're a liar you cannot run programs built for Windows natively in Mac OS X period. |
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I wish i had something constructive to say in this thread. |
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