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[XLTVIBES#12] Drum & Bass / Jungle - ?
 

offline diablo on 2004-05-02 04:15 [#01169902]
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How about it? Pick a BPM (say 169) and someone (I don't
have the right software) does a basic beat match mix up to
about 70mins. Gotta be worth a go, all styles included...


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-02 04:22 [#01169905]
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Hmm, can by tricky to actually beat mix if the breaks are
sampled from a real drummer rather than done on a drum
machine (as I'm sure you know). Maybe do blends on
synth/bass bits (eg agree everyone starts with synth/bass
and ends with drums playing out). Otherwise you tend to need
to do lots of fast cutting between the two tracks being
mixed or even cutting mid way through the track, both of
which: a) put a lot of owness on the "mixer" and b) might
annoy the music makers- "You cut off the last minute of my
track, that's the best part!"

Not a criticism of the idea/them (I'd love a DnB vibes),
just an observation re: the mixing. I agree 169bpm is a good
choice of tempo though. I also think the tempo should be
rigidly enforced. With the club vibes, a lot of people were
+- 5%, I don't know if they don't understand about DJing,
but their tracks would be played at 135bpm anyway and the
pitch would just be off/vocals sounding a bit weird.


 

offline diablo on 2004-05-02 04:33 [#01169908]
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Maybe just switch between tracks in 1 go, not really mixed
but same tempo, without gaps, if ya know what I mean...
Unless there were tracks that would mix easily, but that
would be up to the compilier I guess.
Just thought it would be cool as I reckon there would be
many different takes on the style on here.
Yes the BPM would have to be strict, otherwise mixing it
would be a nightmare.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-05-02 04:41 [#01169911]
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may well be up for this as ive been listening to grooverider
for the past 3 months :) keep ya posted!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-02 04:46 [#01169915]
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Yep, I like fast cuts in DnB mixing. Could even do something
like, play out of a, bar of b, bar of a, bar of b, bar of a,
play rest of b. So long as people put a clear: intro, main
body of track, play out, it could work really well.

I'd be up for doing a track(s) for this, it'd give me the
excuse I've been looking for to finish a couple of the dozen
or so unfinished dnb track I've got. :)


 

offline _awt_ from Malmö (Sweden) on 2004-05-02 04:50 [#01169920]
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i sure hell would be up for making a 169bpm track for this.


ive heard some good drum n bass/jungle tracks from this
place and im sure it would be an awsome final resault

good day!


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-05-02 05:11 [#01169937]
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why 169 ? WHy not 170. I hate odd BPM numbers.

169/2= 84,5 GAY!!

170/2 = 85 YAY!


 

offline _awt_ from Malmö (Sweden) on 2004-05-02 05:47 [#01169946]
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i would like to do it in 190 but it doesnt matter, 169 (170
=P) works aswell


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-02 06:40 [#01169970]
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We don't want any suckers trying to sneak 85 bpm hip hop
with a meaty bassline in here, sonny Jim! :P


 

offline Skeptopotamus from Home (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-02 07:03 [#01169977]
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84.5 bpm Hip Hop it is, then!


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-05-02 07:09 [#01169978]
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Screw you!!! Im going 170 all the way baby!! =)


 

offline diablo on 2004-05-02 08:27 [#01170003]
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Up to you innit but if it doesn't fit it might not make the
cut

That's if anyone is actually up for mixing the thing.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-05-02 10:19 [#01170010]
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I'm working on a 170 bpm DnB track right now - I'll bump it
down to 169.

Plaidzebra does DnB stuff. Maybe he's also interested.


 

offline rongEnemy from Atlanta (United States) on 2004-05-02 18:31 [#01170448]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-02 18:37 [#01170456]
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You'll be pitched -0.5% biotch! :-P

Diablo: Hopefully my best mate should be buying a final
scratch in the next month or so. If he does, I'll happily do
the mix (presumably it wouldn't be for a month or so anyway
as the tracks would need to be made?). Otherwise, I won't,
as I lack an appropriate midi controller/low enough latency
soundcard to mix DnB well on the PC (Traktor is great for
making mashups and perfect beat mixing, but it's gash for
dnb or hip hop IMO).


 

offline diablo on 2004-05-03 16:36 [#01171627]
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Cool. I'd be tempted to attempt a basic cut n paste mix
myself in cool edit if it comes to it...

Its fookin hard making decent sounding tracks with the
limited crap software (& PC) I have but i'll give it a go. I
have a couple of tunes I can post here soon.


 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2004-05-05 05:12 [#01173852]
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i'm done with mine. 01:16 mins. long, 169.540 BPM.
i could also mix the compilation (w/Traktor).


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-05 05:15 [#01173853]
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Mine is coming along nicely...


 

offline diablo on 2004-05-05 05:54 [#01173891]
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Nice, looks like this might happen then... I guess email
track links to either Ceri or Phresh? - if u are up for
mixing it.

Mine is getting there, I think. I really wish I had a midi
setup with protools and all the works. Better save some
pennies.

Any more takers? Cmon, let's get some drill and hardcore in
here!


 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2004-05-08 05:49 [#01178265]
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*bump*

yeah, track links would be best.


 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2004-05-08 05:50 [#01178267]
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btw, i'm not that fuzzy about bpm. anything between 165-172
bpm is OK.


 

offline _awt_ from Malmö (Sweden) on 2004-05-08 05:54 [#01178272]
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im really up for it.. i would love to do this acctually..

but.. im so busy with other music projects right now.. first
of all i wanna finish my current album im working on..

then i think ill be doing another small project with
Lucidikah

then i wanna make a track for polychromatics breakcore/dnb
compilation..

and i never know if im in the right mood for making music
and if i have the "flow" and if I lose the flow this future
month.. then this all could take some heavy time

ill probably miss out on the compilations..

but ill try



 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2004-05-08 06:02 [#01178282]
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Ceri JC: perhaps you should pin this thread? it look like
this is going to be the next xltronic vibes....


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-08 11:01 [#01178536]
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I'll consult with the "neccessary parties" first, but it
looks like it's going that way, doesn't it? ;)

My track is coming along slowly, but I like it.



 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-09 03:56 [#01179233]
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YO! I'm in.

WATCH YOUR BASS BINS!


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-05-09 04:35 [#01179255]
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im in :)

my friend's a pretty good drummer, im gonna do a tune with
him (thats ok right?)


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-09 05:57 [#01179287]
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Okay, this is now officially a future XLT Vibes...

I'll oversee it, but I might call on Phresch to mix it at
the end if that's okay with him?

JAroen: Sure, so long as he can keep to the beat (maybe use
a metronome/click track?) :)

**************************
Basic Instructions:

169 BPM. This is pretty rigid- beat mixing DnB is pretty
tricky anyway, especially when you're not doing it on
turntables.

Note to people who don't understand DJing: Even if you write
your track at 172bpm/whatever, it will be re-tempoed to
169... the only thing will be that it's pitch will be off.
So, write your track at 169 in the first place! :)

Although the title is "Drum and Bass" (and we'd certainly
like some entries to be DnB), Ragga and Jungle (and even to
a degree, Drill and Bass and Breakbeat) are acceptable.

As this will be a "mix" to some degree, as opposed to simply
playing one track after another, I may not use all tracks.
Please don't be offended if you track isn't used- it's not
neccessarily bad- it just means it doesn't "fit" with the
other tracks (although submitting a 180bpm track will make
it even less likely to fit...). Remember, some of the best
vibes compilations have only used about 1/2 the tracks
submitted.

With this in mind (and not wanting to put people off with
too many rules), multiple entries are permitted. So,
if you want, make three and maybe 1/2 of them will be used.

Means of Submission: Not sure on this yet. Perhaps the best
thing would be to keep your track reasonably secret (by all
means share with a couple of SS buddies to get
feedback/whatever, just don't make it available for the
world to hear yet), and just post when it's done in this
thread. Once there are a fair number complete, I'll post
more details on how to submit.

Cheers everyone and good luck,

Ceri.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2004-05-09 06:03 [#01179293]
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what about xltvibes 11 ??


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2004-05-09 06:04 [#01179294]
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i mean should we go on that fast that we have 2 vibes in
progress and we make the next one ??


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-09 06:17 [#01179307]
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The reason this one is being started whilst there are 2 in
progress is that club vibes is very nearly finished- it's
just waiting to be mixed.

This one isn't really "live" yet (ie: no deadline set, no
instructions for submitting tracks), it's just letting
people know so they can get working on tracks :)


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-05-09 06:50 [#01179332]
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no, what ill do is send him some (slowed down) basslines to
drum along to, just a basic dnb break with some nice fillins
perhaps, and then slice n cut it up a bit :)


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-09 07:06 [#01179342]
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Cool, I look forwards to hearing it :)


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-05-09 08:05 [#01179372]
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uuuhmmm ceri whens the deadline

i - and mr monkey drummer too - have my final exams comin on
in 2 weeks (i havent bothered to even start preparing for
them yet) so i dont know if i can finish it in.. some time

a month should be OK.. but well never mind


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-09 10:00 [#01179449]
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"This one isn't really "live" yet (ie: no deadline
set
, no
instructions for submitting tracks), it's just letting
people know so they can get working on tracks :) "



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-09 10:01 [#01179450]
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I've got my finals in the next couple of weeks too :)


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2004-05-09 10:19 [#01179467]
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Oh groovy, I was wondering why there wasn't a DnB Vibes yet.
I've been wanting to suggest this vibes myself for quite
some time but there were so many in the making already.
Anyway I've got a few decent sounding but half finished DnB
tracks on my sys at 169 bpm, so this seems like a reason to
finish them.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-05-09 10:49 [#01179511]
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i just jizzed


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2004-05-09 11:34 [#01179585]
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better rinse it, roy...


 

offline Skeptopotamus from Home (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-09 11:59 [#01179614]
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I'm in, groovesters.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-05-09 12:12 [#01179625]
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oh great i forgot to put me glasses on sorry


 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2004-05-09 13:31 [#01179745]
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I would love this VOLUME to be compiled....


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-05-09 20:14 [#01180071]
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yeah i have some drum n' bass and jungle stuff up at my
Zebox page.

I put it up for weatherstoner's comp, but feel free to take
a look at them too.

BPMs:
Boingomatic - 180 bpm
Uberdestroyer - 160 BPM
Hero's Rush - 200 BPM


 

offline puralocha from Colombia on 2004-05-09 20:16 [#01180072]
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nice, im up fo sure !!!!

didn't make the last one , db is def more my style anyhow
....
on it mate .....


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2004-05-09 20:25 [#01180077]
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ive got two up on my site
Cheese n Base - 174
and
how can i sleep.... also 174 i believe


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-10 02:38 [#01180187]
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Oddio and Taffmonster: Did neither of you read the
guidelines at all?! :P

:)


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-05-10 04:47 [#01180293]
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ok, is comp opened ? i want to submit some fat beatz


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-10 05:59 [#01180377]
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**************************
Basic Instructions:

169 BPM. This is pretty rigid- beat mixing DnB is pretty
tricky anyway, especially when you're not doing it on
turntables.

Note to people who don't understand DJing: Even if you write

your track at 172bpm/whatever, it will be re-tempoed to
169... the only thing will be that it's pitch will be off.
So, write your track at 169 in the first place! :)

Although the title is "Drum and Bass" (and we'd certainly
like some entries to be DnB), Ragga and Jungle (and even to

a degree, Drill and Bass and Breakbeat) are acceptable.

As this will be a "mix" to some degree, as opposed to simply

playing one track after another, I may not use all tracks.
Please don't be offended if you track isn't used- it's not
neccessarily bad- it just means it doesn't "fit" with the
other tracks (although submitting a 180bpm track will make
it even less likely to fit...). Remember, some of the best
vibes compilations have only used about 1/2 the tracks
submitted.

With this in mind (and not wanting to put people off with
too many rules), multiple entries are permitted. So,
if you want, make three and maybe 1/2 of them will be used.



Means of Submission: Not sure on this yet. Perhaps the best

thing would be to keep your track reasonably secret (by all

means share with a couple of SS buddies to get
feedback/whatever, just don't make it available for the
world to hear yet), and just post when it's done in this
thread. Once there are a fair number complete, I'll post
more details on how to submit.

Cheers everyone and good luck,

Ceri.



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-10 06:00 [#01180380]
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By "post when it's done", I mean, "post a message saying,
"my track is complete"" - not a link to the track!


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-05-10 06:47 [#01180433]
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that will do it, thanks

P.S. what style are you expecting ? darkside, atmospheric ?
just point directions...


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2004-05-10 08:05 [#01180502]
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Hmm sounds nice. But why 169? odd number. should have gone
for the more standard 170bpm. but hey its up to u i
suppose.
Ive got a ton of homemade good quality stuff....stuff at
164bpm, nice 'boom cha....boom cha....eeeeooouughhhhgraaaaa'
'96/97 No-U-Turn techstep stylie stuff which I may remix for
this... sounds like fun. If only i had time.maybe.


 


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