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epohs
from )C: on 2004-04-18 12:29 [#01148514]
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rocked.
better than volume 1 in my opinion. kinda more typical tarentino, lots more dialog. nobody was killed with a sword. the whole chapter with pai mei was badass.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-18 12:34 [#01148524]
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still haven't seen the first....
still don't have any volition to. I'm sure ill eventually see them at a friend's place or something (and ill probably like them at least mildly), but I don't feel the need to drop what I'm doing to go watch them.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-04-18 12:38 [#01148533]
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am yet to see it
high expectations :)
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-18 12:40 [#01148540]
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Did you cry?
They reckon you will.LAZY_TITLE
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-04-18 12:42 [#01148543]
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a guy i know said seeing volume two is probably like getting a blow job, but he's never had one.
i on the other hand am just the oposite
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-18 12:44 [#01148549]
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Hmmmmmmmmm.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-18 13:03 [#01148580]
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i hope it's better than that part1 crap :)
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-04-18 13:09 [#01148588]
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i thought it was awsome.
i really liked Budd, Michael Madsen's character. the fallen samurai.
it was a bit anti-climactic, compared to the first half but as a complete unit, part 2 very well compliments part 1. i have no complaints.
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Amnesiac
from ERIE (United States) on 2004-04-18 20:20 [#01149407]
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yeah.
he filmed it all as one movie but they said it was too long so he cut it in half. it IS one movie.
i loved it.
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-04-18 20:32 [#01149412]
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i thought they were both good movies, but they hardly felt like two parts that make a whole. they were just so...opposite and extreme. one was practically all action, and the other was practically all character development. both were done great, but since they were separated it made the movies feel uneven to me. throw in the fact that really only one character (the bride) caries over between the two movies. all of this isn't a bad thing. it is experimental. and i'm really glad it was done!
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2004-04-18 20:59 [#01149427]
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ah - i loved it - best flick ive seen for a while. (i expect this to be the best film (part) of the year)
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-04-18 21:03 [#01149430]
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it was awesome! i think i liked vol 1 a little more - it had a lot more action scenes. but vol 2 had a lot of other really memorable stuff. i would really like to see them both back to back - that would probably enhance the experience of vol 2.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-04-19 06:44 [#01149758]
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i thought the ending was great.
kinda like a sentimental breakup in a relationship between two old friends that still respect each other...
...and are vengeful samurai.
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-04-19 06:54 [#01149770]
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sorry guys, but i didn't like it, i felt... disappointed in a lot of respects. The first one had huge climaxes to the duels, and some great feeling when it came to the making of the sword.
not to mention the anime sequence. I guess I was expecting the same techniques in Vol 2.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-04-19 07:09 [#01149793]
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i thought the lack of an ultraviolent climax was really cool.
the surprise, and quick change of pace when she finally gets to bill was very nicely done imo. don't get me wrong, i really liked the almost collage nature of vol. 1. the over stylization was very entertaining.
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2004-04-19 09:09 [#01150044]
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I absolutely loved vol.2, I loved everything about the movie and it was definetly very tarentino film making, but I think the second one is much more fun then the first one so I think vol.1 is better. STILL they both compliment eachother, after seeing the first one it was like one long movie.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-04-19 11:01 [#01150279]
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i love the bit where the bride catches Bill's sword in her sheath. a somewhat erotic metaphore for their relationship.
i also really like the theme of Samurai honor. and the idea that the Viper Assasination Squad killed the Bride for leaving "the life." But 4 years later, Budd, Vivica and O-Ren have all left "the life" in their own way and they all understand how this makes them further indebted to her. By the Samurai code, the bride not only deserves revenge, but she is obliged to take it, or suffer a loss of honor herself.
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-04-19 11:03 [#01150283]
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what would have been better:
an actual fight with Micheal Madsen
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-04-19 11:05 [#01150285]
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*** SPOILERS ***
&npsp;
yeah, they definately killed her because she left the group. but, i think the group as a whole kinda split up afterwards because bill started taking care of the child.
i got claustrophobic as hell when she was burried alive. damn, seemed to be 5 minutes of darkness, where all you heard was dirt falling on the casket and her freaking out. that shit was intense.
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2004-04-19 11:15 [#01150301]
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I would have flipped out if i were here. But still she kicked ass by punching the coffin. AND HOW SHE CRAWLED OUT WAS FUCKING AMAZING!
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-04-19 11:35 [#01150320]
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I thought it was great and i loved the part where Bill was talking about heros! Awesome!
little b.b is gonna be an ass kicker
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-04-19 11:37 [#01150328]
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***spoiler kind of *************************
Seriously i felt uncomfortable when she was buried alive aswell. It was so dark in the theater and i kept thinking what it must be like :/
*************************end spolioerioek;
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-04-19 11:44 [#01150342]
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yes, that was incredible
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-04-19 11:46 [#01150346]
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yeah, the buried alive scene was done wonderfully.
maybe there's a future story involving b.b. and nikki.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-04-19 12:27 [#01150458]
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kill bill 3 in 2015
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-04-19 13:21 [#01150651]
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no way. michael madsen's character is cool because he is a fallen samurai. he is old, fat, pathetic which is an exact opposite to what he must have been. if he were to actually have a kick ass fight scene, it would undermine the very nature of his character which is that of a man who has lost all his samurai nobility.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-04-19 13:28 [#01150678]
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***spoilers***
i agree. that's what makes them so much more deserving of the brides vengence. They killed her for leaving the group, but then 4 years later, they all kinda leave the group themselves. Vernita is trying to have a family, Budd is a washed up drunk bouncer, O-Ren has started her own underworld crime syndicate. i think the characters understand that this hypocracy makes them more deserving of death.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-04-19 13:30 [#01150691]
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**spoilers**
oh that's true. if bill is a daddy, he probably can't really keep the band together.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-04-19 13:34 [#01150709]
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so, even he left the life, which also makes him deserving. neat.
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-04-19 13:41 [#01150733]
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it's all i wanted, that was before i even knew what his character was all about.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-04-19 13:41 [#01150735]
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**SPOILERS**
I thought it was really funny to see Bill, this merciless natural born killer, cutting the crusts off his daughters sandwich.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-04-19 13:43 [#01150743]
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true, i admit i was hopefull for a good blood opera shoot-out or something but.. well..
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herbwest
from Seattle (United States) on 2004-04-19 13:57 [#01150768]
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of couse that comment should be taken with a grain of salt as you hope all movies end with, "a good blood opera shoot-out."
Just the other day he told me, "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind was pretty good, I wished it ended with a good blood opera shoot-out, but...well...maybe in a sequel"
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-04-19 15:20 [#01150942]
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no no, if you wait through the credits, Kate Winslet slaughters everyone at the clinic with her Desert Eagles akimbo.
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-04-19 15:40 [#01151010]
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spoilers {
i can't remember, was it explicitly said that they did what they did to her just because she tried to leave the life? my impression was that that was just bill's reaction to having found out that she basically left him for someone else. there's no question he was in love with her. that's my take on it.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-04-19 15:45 [#01151023]
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you're totally right. i forgot about that.
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-04-19 15:48 [#01151030]
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/* start spoilers */
also, i think it's really interesting that the only one of the DiVAS who really 'defeated' The Bride was Buddy. he had her down and could have easily dispensed with her.
also, we never know for sure if Elle dies! i mean, we can assume so because it's the whole point of the movie, but realistically she may have survived. she only had her other eye pulled out..
/* end spoilers */
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2004-04-19 16:10 [#01151064]
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SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bill dies
END SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-04-21 09:59 [#01154236]
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you totally s(p)oiled this thread!
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Asche XL
on 2004-04-21 11:43 [#01154389]
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some guy got pissed cause i said jesus dies at the end when we were leavin the theater
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-04-21 11:48 [#01154402]
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ha!
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Asche XL
on 2004-04-21 11:49 [#01154405]
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edit: the movie i went to see was "The Passion of the Christ"
just incase the slow ones didn't catch on
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-04-21 11:50 [#01154407]
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/me raises hand
thanks for clearing that up.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-04-21 11:51 [#01154410]
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haha!
i made a joke after i left the theater from seeing teh passion too.
nobody thought mine was funny either. :(
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-04-21 11:58 [#01154433]
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i'm just curious, do you make jokes because you have something against christianity or religion, or is there some other reason?
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-04-21 12:02 [#01154446]
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i just cut jokes about everything.
i have nothing in particular against christianity... but, i also don't consider it "off limits" in joking around.
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-04-21 12:10 [#01154463]
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i see, that makes sense.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-28 08:31 [#01164362]
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I agree with Dozier's first post regarding the film (saw it last night), good stuff but odd all the same.
What really annoys me - if completely unsurprising - is the statement by the head of Miramax regarding the DVDs:
Miramax COO Rick Sands recently told the New York Times: "Vol. 1 goes out, Vol. 2 goes out, then Vol. 1 Special Edition, Vol. 2 Special Edition, the two-pack, then the Tarantino collection as a boxed set for Christmas. ... It's called multiple bites at the apple."
Pure fucking robbery.
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2004-04-28 08:33 [#01164366]
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BRILLIANT FLICK X 2
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-28 08:33 [#01164367]
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By the way if that was posted in another Kill Bill thread already, well tough cause a) there were like 25 of them and b) I didn't read any of them because not every caring soul types "spoilers" in their post!
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