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offline nacmat on 2004-03-02 12:18 [#01096245]
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aphex?
nightmares on wax?
lfo?
b12?
black dog?
....
who?

1962 characters left


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-03-02 12:19 [#01096248]
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None of these artists invented the term "IDM".

~1998


 

offline Clic on 2004-03-02 12:19 [#01096249]
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I think they're called The Phvkkage.


 

offline tragedy from Gloucester (United States) on 2004-03-02 12:19 [#01096250]
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brian eno........

heh.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-03-02 12:20 [#01096252]
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Smoyer, Thad Smoyer


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-03-02 12:20 [#01096253]
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I don't think anyone "invented" it.
But certain artists has developed the genre, yes.


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2004-03-02 12:20 [#01096254]
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I did...obviously


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-02 12:20 [#01096256]
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this'll turn out to be an interesting discussion.

btw, I'm almost 100% sure the term "idm" was invented by the
press.


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-03-02 12:21 [#01096257]
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This thread is just going to keep getting awesomer from here
on out.


 

offline tragedy from Gloucester (United States) on 2004-03-02 12:22 [#01096260]
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qrter> i agree, actually..


 

offline nacmat on 2004-03-02 12:24 [#01096261]
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I mean who invented the style of music not the term

and I know it was not invented, but developed...

well who were the firsts to develope the genre?


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-03-02 12:32 [#01096279]
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Year Zero spotting is pointless...culture's far more
rhizomatic than that & whatever historical narrative anyone

subscribes to is at best subjective; at worst, fascistic...


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-03-02 12:37 [#01096291]
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"the current electronic music scene is becomming
increasingly fragmented into multiple genres of music. as
this wonderful artform continues to mature we'll undoubtedly
see new genres form, and congeal together. Intelligent
Dance Music is one area of electronic music that is
garnering much attention amongst the musical
underground"


- g. robert zalmahn
- mindmeld magazine
- c. 1994

i think this is it's first formal mention.


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-03-02 12:38 [#01096300]
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I'm pretty sure I mentioned it formally the day before that.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-03-02 12:40 [#01096307]
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nah... more like you dropped it during casual banter.

doesn't count.


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-03-02 12:49 [#01096329]
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The IDM mailing list was started before that ... in response
to the Warp AI series in 1993.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-03-02 13:07 [#01096342]
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yeah, i made up that entire post.


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-03-02 13:13 [#01096352]
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In many ways you were right, though.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-03-02 13:18 [#01096355]
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i rrememberr the time i won the worrld.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2004-03-02 13:19 [#01096357]
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lfo did it !


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-02 13:20 [#01096359]
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it certainly is.

will you marry me?

we can make beautiful music together.


 

offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-03-02 13:24 [#01096360]
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all the answers are on this great site


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-03-02 13:27 [#01096363]
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nice site


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-03-02 13:30 [#01096370]
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Remember that time(s) you said you were going to send me a
qrter cd?


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-03-02 13:31 [#01096372]
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how did i know Xanatos was on the lurrk?


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-03-02 13:31 [#01096375]
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Remember that time(s) you said you were going to send me a
qrter cd?



 

offline ziggomatic from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-03-02 14:49 [#01096485]
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...all I know is that it wasn't Roy Orbison.


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2004-03-02 15:05 [#01096513]
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detroit


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-03-02 15:15 [#01096519]
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chrystal method, richard devine, matmos and zero 7


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-03-02 15:16 [#01096521]
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gwar


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-02 15:27 [#01096526]
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Colonel Gadaffi


 

offline nacmat on 2004-03-02 15:54 [#01096552]
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I wonder why the "who invented nacmat" thread was closed...
I liked it a lot


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-03-02 16:05 [#01096561]
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Start another one.


 

offline nacmat on 2004-03-02 16:06 [#01096562]
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it would be closed

I think phob did close the other one


 

offline tlink from sofla (United States) on 2004-03-02 19:19 [#01096762]
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Leo Theremin


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-03-02 19:21 [#01096764]
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I wouldn't call Theremin IDM
although, it's experimental, yeah.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-03-02 19:27 [#01096770]
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autechre ofcourse.


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-03-02 19:27 [#01096772]
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sortof off-topic...

have you ever invented anything, tols?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-03-02 19:32 [#01096777]
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i don't think so...at least nothing memorable :(

why do you ask? :)


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-03-02 19:37 [#01096781]
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I was just wondering :)

I haven't invented anything either,
but I have created things artistically (audio/video),
which is also a creative process.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-03-02 19:44 [#01096785]
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it sure is!

btw, you could start a thread about inventors...im sure
there would be plenty of hilarious replys :)


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-03-02 19:45 [#01096786]
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good idea!


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-03-02 20:05 [#01096809]
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LAZY_TITLE



IDM was started by an Englishman living in Delaware(aka,
FLuid, the one with the LP in his hand). He was seminal in
starting hyperreal and was responsible for the cataloging of
all AFX releases. So, you can blame him for that awful
pretensious title


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2004-03-03 00:13 [#01096959]
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Coil did. Love's Secret Domain and Music To Play In The Dark
were the first IDM albums, some of thier older stuff could
be considered IDM too...


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-03-03 00:58 [#01096980]
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yeah, it was theremin who invented it


 

offline SPD from United States on 2004-03-03 01:20 [#01096985]
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thats right, Fluid was Alan M. Parry (AMP) of hyperreal who
coined the term when creating the IDM mailing list. there
were these IDM t-shirts printed up in the beginning to look
like IBM shirts in like '93 or whenever that was.

but i think the first IDM genre wise that i remember hearing
was like Harold Faltermeyer and all the Beverly Hills Cop
stuff. i mean like '84, and that sounds to me as close to
the root sound of what IDM the genre came from. not disco
but not rave shit either. post Moroder even though
Faltermeyer was Moroders protege.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-03-03 01:34 [#01096993]
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IDM the phrase not the first "idm" music..The internet is
just one big rumor mill isn't it? Fuking useless. I told you
who coined it..
here's a thread were Mike P confirms this..
who cojned the term IDM?


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-03-03 01:37 [#01096996]
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Beverly Hills Cop ? You gunna say that and not even bring up
Jan Hammer? Come on.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-03-03 03:49 [#01097045]
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A loaded term meant to distinguish electronic music of
the '90s and later that's equally comfortable on the
dancefloor as in the living room, IDM (Intelligent Dance
Music) eventually acquired a good deal of negative
publicity, not least among the legion of dance producers and
fans whose exclusion from the community prompted the
question of whether they produced stupid dance music. Born
in the late '80s, the sound grew out of a fusion between the
hard-edged dance music heard on the main floor at raves and
larger club events, and the more downtempo music of the
nearby chill-out rooms. DJs like Mixmaster Morris and Dr.
Alex Paterson blended Chicago house, softer synth-pop/new
wave, and ambient/environmental music, prompting a wave of
producers inspired by a variety of sources. (Many DJs and
producers were also reacting against the increasingly
chart-leaning slant of British dance music during those
years, exemplified by novelty hits like "Pump Up the Jam" by
Technotronic and "Sesame's Treat" by Smart E's.) Sheffield's
Warp Records proved home to the best in the sound ? in fact,
the seminal Warp compilation Artificial Intelligence alone
introduced listeners worldwide to a half-dozen of the
style's most crucial artists: Aphex Twin, the Orb,
Plastikman, Autechre, Black Dog Productions, and B12. Other
labels ? Rising High, GPR, R&S, Rephlex, Fat Cat,
Astralwerks ? released quality IDM as well, though by the
mid-'90s much of the electronica produced for headphone
consumption had diverged either toward the path of more
experimentation or more beat orientation. With no centered,
commercial scene to speak of, North America became a far
more hospitable clime to IDM, and by the end of the '90s,
dozens of solid labels had opened for business, including
Drop Beat, Isophlux, Suction, Schematic, and Cytrax. Despite
frequent attempts to rename the style (Warp's "electronic
listening music" and Aphex Twin's "braindance" were two
choices), IDM continued to be the de facto way for fans to
describe their occasion


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-03-03 03:51 [#01097047]
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occasionally undescribable favorites

..the counter is a bit off. undescribable was allowed by the
counter, but "ally undescribable" was cut off anyway.

that's 18 letters off.


 


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