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nacmat
on 2004-03-02 12:18 [#01096245]
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aphex? nightmares on wax? lfo? b12? black dog? .... who?
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-03-02 12:19 [#01096248]
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None of these artists invented the term "IDM".
~1998
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Clic
on 2004-03-02 12:19 [#01096249]
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I think they're called The Phvkkage.
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2004-03-02 12:19 [#01096250]
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brian eno........
heh.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-03-02 12:20 [#01096252]
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Smoyer, Thad Smoyer
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-03-02 12:20 [#01096253]
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I don't think anyone "invented" it. But certain artists has developed the genre, yes.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2004-03-02 12:20 [#01096254]
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I did...obviously
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-02 12:20 [#01096256]
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this'll turn out to be an interesting discussion.
btw, I'm almost 100% sure the term "idm" was invented by the press.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-03-02 12:21 [#01096257]
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This thread is just going to keep getting awesomer from here on out.
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2004-03-02 12:22 [#01096260]
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qrter> i agree, actually..
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nacmat
on 2004-03-02 12:24 [#01096261]
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I mean who invented the style of music not the term
and I know it was not invented, but developed...
well who were the firsts to develope the genre?
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-03-02 12:32 [#01096279]
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Year Zero spotting is pointless...culture's far more rhizomatic than that & whatever historical narrative anyone
subscribes to is at best subjective; at worst, fascistic...
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-03-02 12:37 [#01096291]
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"the current electronic music scene is becomming increasingly fragmented into multiple genres of music. as this wonderful artform continues to mature we'll undoubtedly see new genres form, and congeal together. Intelligent Dance Music is one area of electronic music that is garnering much attention amongst the musical underground"
- g. robert zalmahn - mindmeld magazine - c. 1994
i think this is it's first formal mention.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-03-02 12:38 [#01096300]
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I'm pretty sure I mentioned it formally the day before that.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-03-02 12:40 [#01096307]
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nah... more like you dropped it during casual banter.
doesn't count.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-03-02 12:49 [#01096329]
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The IDM mailing list was started before that ... in response to the Warp AI series in 1993.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-03-02 13:07 [#01096342]
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yeah, i made up that entire post.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-03-02 13:13 [#01096352]
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In many ways you were right, though.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-03-02 13:18 [#01096355]
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i rrememberr the time i won the worrld.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-03-02 13:19 [#01096357]
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lfo did it !
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-02 13:20 [#01096359]
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it certainly is.
will you marry me?
we can make beautiful music together.
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-03-02 13:24 [#01096360]
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all the answers are on this great site
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-03-02 13:27 [#01096363]
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nice site
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-03-02 13:30 [#01096370]
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Remember that time(s) you said you were going to send me a qrter cd?
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-03-02 13:31 [#01096372]
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how did i know Xanatos was on the lurrk?
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-03-02 13:31 [#01096375]
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Remember that time(s) you said you were going to send me a qrter cd?
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-03-02 14:49 [#01096485]
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...all I know is that it wasn't Roy Orbison.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2004-03-02 15:05 [#01096513]
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detroit
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hobbes
from age on 2004-03-02 15:15 [#01096519]
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chrystal method, richard devine, matmos and zero 7
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-03-02 15:16 [#01096521]
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gwar
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-02 15:27 [#01096526]
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Colonel Gadaffi
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nacmat
on 2004-03-02 15:54 [#01096552]
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I wonder why the "who invented nacmat" thread was closed... I liked it a lot
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-03-02 16:05 [#01096561]
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Start another one.
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nacmat
on 2004-03-02 16:06 [#01096562]
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it would be closed
I think phob did close the other one
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tlink
from sofla (United States) on 2004-03-02 19:19 [#01096762]
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Leo Theremin
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-03-02 19:21 [#01096764]
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I wouldn't call Theremin IDM although, it's experimental, yeah.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-03-02 19:27 [#01096770]
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autechre ofcourse.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-03-02 19:27 [#01096772]
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sortof off-topic...
have you ever invented anything, tols?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-03-02 19:32 [#01096777]
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i don't think so...at least nothing memorable :(
why do you ask? :)
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-03-02 19:37 [#01096781]
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I was just wondering :)
I haven't invented anything either, but I have created things artistically (audio/video), which is also a creative process.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-03-02 19:44 [#01096785]
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it sure is!
btw, you could start a thread about inventors...im sure there would be plenty of hilarious replys :)
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-03-02 19:45 [#01096786]
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good idea!
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-03-02 20:05 [#01096809]
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LAZY_TITLE
IDM was started by an Englishman living in Delaware(aka, FLuid, the one with the LP in his hand). He was seminal in starting hyperreal and was responsible for the cataloging of all AFX releases. So, you can blame him for that awful pretensious title
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2004-03-03 00:13 [#01096959]
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Coil did. Love's Secret Domain and Music To Play In The Dark were the first IDM albums, some of thier older stuff could be considered IDM too...
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-03-03 00:58 [#01096980]
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yeah, it was theremin who invented it
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SPD
from United States on 2004-03-03 01:20 [#01096985]
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thats right, Fluid was Alan M. Parry (AMP) of hyperreal who coined the term when creating the IDM mailing list. there were these IDM t-shirts printed up in the beginning to look like IBM shirts in like '93 or whenever that was.
but i think the first IDM genre wise that i remember hearing was like Harold Faltermeyer and all the Beverly Hills Cop stuff. i mean like '84, and that sounds to me as close to the root sound of what IDM the genre came from. not disco but not rave shit either. post Moroder even though Faltermeyer was Moroders protege.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-03-03 01:34 [#01096993]
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IDM the phrase not the first "idm" music..The internet is just one big rumor mill isn't it? Fuking useless. I told you who coined it..
here's a thread were Mike P confirms this.. who cojned the term IDM?
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-03-03 01:37 [#01096996]
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Beverly Hills Cop ? You gunna say that and not even bring up Jan Hammer? Come on.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-03-03 03:49 [#01097045]
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A loaded term meant to distinguish electronic music of the '90s and later that's equally comfortable on the dancefloor as in the living room, IDM (Intelligent Dance Music) eventually acquired a good deal of negative publicity, not least among the legion of dance producers and fans whose exclusion from the community prompted the question of whether they produced stupid dance music. Born in the late '80s, the sound grew out of a fusion between the hard-edged dance music heard on the main floor at raves and larger club events, and the more downtempo music of the nearby chill-out rooms. DJs like Mixmaster Morris and Dr. Alex Paterson blended Chicago house, softer synth-pop/new wave, and ambient/environmental music, prompting a wave of producers inspired by a variety of sources. (Many DJs and producers were also reacting against the increasingly chart-leaning slant of British dance music during those years, exemplified by novelty hits like "Pump Up the Jam" by Technotronic and "Sesame's Treat" by Smart E's.) Sheffield's Warp Records proved home to the best in the sound ? in fact, the seminal Warp compilation Artificial Intelligence alone introduced listeners worldwide to a half-dozen of the style's most crucial artists: Aphex Twin, the Orb, Plastikman, Autechre, Black Dog Productions, and B12. Other labels ? Rising High, GPR, R&S, Rephlex, Fat Cat, Astralwerks ? released quality IDM as well, though by the mid-'90s much of the electronica produced for headphone consumption had diverged either toward the path of more experimentation or more beat orientation. With no centered, commercial scene to speak of, North America became a far more hospitable clime to IDM, and by the end of the '90s, dozens of solid labels had opened for business, including Drop Beat, Isophlux, Suction, Schematic, and Cytrax. Despite frequent attempts to rename the style (Warp's "electronic listening music" and Aphex Twin's "braindance" were two choices), IDM continued to be the de facto way for fans to describe their occasion
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-03-03 03:51 [#01097047]
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occasionally undescribable favorites
..the counter is a bit off. undescribable was allowed by the counter, but "ally undescribable" was cut off anyway.
that's 18 letters off.
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