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Hey everyone this is my first original track since i got my iBook about 6 months ago heh (too much playing DOOM and Quake!) anyways, please listen and let me know what you guys think! i need feedback on this....i think this is the genre for me!! |
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please guys, i need some constructive feed back on this please? *bump* |
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get rid of the cowbell, and do some better drumprogramming - rhythms with a flowing feel wouldn?t hurt, I think.... |
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please could you elaborate on "better drum programming"? i thought i was doing okay with that...i guess not then thanks for your feedback :) |
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d/l |
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I've never seen you comment on any one elses tracks (or I just don't remember it) Anyway here goes... The track sounds far to basic. Synth you have used sound too clean, generic and boring. The drum programming in the more complex parts just sounds like a semi random series of hits without any groove or flow repeatedly looped. The track just doesn't hang well together, the transitions seems forced and awkward. Could do with a fair bit more work :P |
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i haven't commented on anyone elses tracks, because up until now i've been on a local call rate dialup, and my mom would have killed me if i'd have spent ages on the phone downloading music.....but now i have 1mb broadband, so i can start downloading :) well, i guess i shouldn't upload or do anymore tracks then......i don't wanna embaress myself anymore than i already have. thanks for your feedback :) |
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ANYONE WHO HAS ONLY JUST LOOOKED AT THIS THREAD - PLEASE DO NOT DOWNLOAD MY TRACK you'll only be unnecessarily eating up bandwidth that you could be using to get something good :) thank you everyone for your input on my stuff, you've been very helpful i won't be posting anymore threads to do with my music.....i won't be making any more music for that matter (i guess if you could call it music) thanks again guys :) |
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You haven't embaressed yourself at all...it wasn't all that bad, it's all down to personal opinion. If you keep working on it you get better (your track is a lot better than most of the stuff I have posted in the past)...I was just being honest and to the point is all. I could have tried to dress it up in a nicer way but it doesn't help you any extra. As long as you keep posting I will keep commenting if you want comments, I'll just keep being honest :D |
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haha fuck you...I feel guilty now. |
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very much of the music on this board is over-quantized. it sounds like you've calculated the position of every sound too much. also: the cow-bell.. hikaru no-go. the drum loop is too short, and too little variation in. |
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yeah i know, i wasn't trying to sound like.......well, you know trying to get sympathy or anything (am i making sense?) i just mean that i know if i want an honest, unclouded opinion i can always count on the guys here at xltronic, and i'm glad that i've gotten all the feedback i have from this i mean, i know it's only a couple of feedbacks, but its enough to tell me that maybe i'm just not cut out for making music. i would have hoped that it would be the other way round, because ever since i was 14 all i've wanted to do was create something, but for some people it's just not meant to be, right? you're right - dressing things up doesn't help anyone, and i would have looed like a right fucking loser if i'd have tried to send this stuff off to a label or something, so i'm very grateful for your feedback, and everyone elses :) |
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btw sorry if i'm posting too many smileys, i'll try to stop posting so many smileys |
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As I said your stuff is better than a lot of the stuff I have posted, and a lot of the stuff that has been posted by other people. It certainly isn't the worst. My personal opinion on how to improve is to keep practising, you can't just pick a guitar up and play it, and making electronic music is potentially a lot more complex because you have to master the software, how the synths sound, different effects etc. A lot of techniques you will pick up by listening to other peoples tracks, odd as it sounds some really good techniques are replicated by amature producers and it is a lot easier to figure out how it has been acheived than in an Aphex track or whatever. Also you can begin to hear where you feel other people have gone wrong and it allows you to not make the same mistake in your own tracks. My advice would be if you like it and enjoy doing it fuck everyone elses opinion. :P |
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no, post more smileys. |
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you probably shouldn't stop making music. you should just keep making it and eventually you'll evolve, as will your music. the first songs I made were shit! lasted 17,5 beats and 22 mins. Random synth "plokk" sounds and drums which sounded like a dead camel humping a ceramic bowl filled with dung. |
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My English is going to shit these days. :D! |
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Chill. |
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and yes. post less smileys!!! |
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don't be sorry like that all the time, you're victimising yourself from the start... i can't listen to your track now, but even if it's the shittest thing i'll ever heard you don't have to stop making tracks because of that, how long have you been making music? certainly not long enough to be sure you're not cut for it... perseverance is the key in many domain but in music it is maybe the most needed quality if you're not born with some kind of talent. |
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A friend of mine gave me a tape of his music. It was 45 minutes of the same beat repeated with no variation through the headphone socket from Fruityloops, and he asked for my honest opinion on it. Three days later as I threw soil in on top of his coffin I swore I would never be that honest again. |
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Ahahaha |
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>ecnadniarb i get what you're saying, and i really appreciate your advise, but the thing is....i thought i was good...i thought, and friends of mine thought that I knew stuff like Reason pretty well. the thing tome with making music is this: yeah it's all well and good making music for ME, you know, what i make i love etc etc etc. But I wanna be recognised as an artist, because music over the past few years has not really been thought of as an artform (imo) and it really means a lot to me to be able to do a track and have the audience it's intended for (listeners of braindance/electronica/idm/whatever the fuck you wanna call it) and if my target audience doesn't really think it's up to scratch, then that's telling me something, right? i've been messing with music since i was 15....i'm 20 now, i would have thought i'd have gathered enough skill to actually do something that's decent......i NEEDED this man, i needed this wake-up call i really do appreciate your help on this, i only hope that someday i can help you or someone else on this board as much as everyone else on here has helped me >drunken mastah i have a mate who used to do stuff in ReBirth that was 999 bars long heh it was funny as hell :) |
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man i don't think that you contributed to whatever happened there sorry that happened |
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why dont u try posting ur link to zeebox up here so they can here some of ur other stuff u seem to do music to suit more than one genre in my opinion, this track is extremely different to what you normally do and i like it but thats my opinion, however perhaps if the guys got a feel for other stuff u did they might be able to aid you in the making of this song..? |
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hear* excuse my spelling |
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you've got a vested interest in me and my "music" i'm sorry, but in this matter your opinion doesn't count. i've deleted everything from my zebox site, so there's no point suggesting anything like that. |
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vested huh |
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I would have listened to the other two except he has deleted all three tracks off his zebox for some reason... |
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so my opinion as an artist dont count..? i might only be starting up but i do have a good idea of whats decent and whats not and if i dont like something you've done i'd tell you... For example, i think that Tirade is one of the best songs you have ever done, secondly i think gotham was amazing too I agree with you when it comes to the drums in ruined, they weren't big enough HOWEVER that gave me a totaly different feel to the song, which again, i liked! I know what i'm talkign about and i dissagree with you when you say i dont count you're only saying that cuz ur mad wiv me |
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"sorry for the inconveinience, but my music has been removed from ths site. please accept my apologies, i'm very sorry. -oscillik" i was curious to hear this track |
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hey put the track back up ... fuck everyones opinions, if you enjoy making music that is what matters... am i right in thinking this is the only track you've shown to the public (and therefore the only track you've had critisim over?) if so then its fucked, coz im sure uve got loads of other tracks that people wud like / like elements of... you've only heard the opinion of a handful of people here and have already decided ur not an artist or whatever... this is wrong... keep fighting! keep making music an upload it to the world |
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I have all of his tracks.. i could always put them back BUT i wouldnt ever do anything like that without his permission you guys would have loved them i'm his girlfriend, he brought his stuff with him into my college to show my friends and we all loved it but my opinion doesn't count agaist you guys on here, this is the music community and i'm just a newbie in the world of music in his eyes i try tho oscillik and when i say i like something i mean it |
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wellwell. if you've made up your mind. better start making something else, then. like rose-painted dinner-plates. |
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yeah well, like i said you've got a vested interest i never said that your opinion as an artist didn't count, i'm saying that as you're my girlfriend i can't really rely on your word as to my "musical endeavours" |
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nah, i don't have the patience....or the artistic skills for that... i think i'll just.....uhh....write posts on the best messagboard in existence ;) |
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oops.......smiley sorry guys |
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why did you bother i ask, why? if you can't take critisism, you're not made for the game. |
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grinningcat he's played some of his other songs to lots of people his friends people in college my friends, me people in my college my family.. you guys are really the only ones who he's had major critisism off Oscillik this is a new genre for you, its going to take a few tried before you hit the nail on the spot ok? you're not going to be able to create an absolutely perfect track in a totaly new genre to you with your first song... its going to take a few tries and i'm going to help you all the way obviousely i cant do it for you because you know shit loads more than me, but i mean i'll support you emotionally you're an amazing artist and you KNOW you are! you wouldn't be shelling out so much money for equipment if you thought you'd give up at the first sign of critisism... not EVERYONE is going to like everything.. and remember what we were saying the other night? with EVERY artist no matter how big a fan you are, there will always be one or two tracks that dont quite fit your fancy.. |
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haha just put the damn tracks back up with your mega fast connection...might I recommend you look at the comments I have written on other peoples tracks. If I said your girlfriend looked like a horse would you stop going out with her? If it's something you love then you just stick with it. (not that she does look like a horse, although she might do, I have never seen her obviously) |
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I totally agree with ecnadniarb, there is no point in sugarcoating shit better for people to be frank and honest that way it pushes you to make better and more refined music. |
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i probably do look like a horse actually :( but i dont care cuz he loves me.. well, he did.. he's mad with me right now and wont call me back :( |
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He seems a little childish...do you fancy coming out for a drink and letting me review you? |
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no sorry,i only want him and no he aint childish he's perfect he's just sensative and needs some time to get used to things |
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I suck dick for pepsi |
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you just keep making it, and it will fall into place. you can't base your entire life upon the first thing someone says about your work. you could probably also be pretty good at rose-painting dinner-plates if you did it for a while. what i've noticed is that, after a while of making music, I get closer and closer to making jazz.. even though the first songs i made were.. strange tracker-techno with "the sound of a thousand iron monkeys riding through my brain on iron donkeys".. so.. as you progress in making music, you will get closer and closer to the music you were supposed to make. |
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What's your mum doing tonight? |
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albertoBalsalm is right... unfortunately u have to be a hard bastard with this... of course its devastating when people slag off something you have worked hard for and thought was brilliant... its the same when you send off a demo and no-one replies.... its a little slap in the face.... no wonder aphex etc dont like coming to these message boards, there's always people slagging off particular tracks etc , it would get me vexed. |
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i AM taking criticism have you not read my posts? i wanted constructive feedback. i GOT constructive feedback. the feedback said that the track is too simple, beats feel forced, cowbell cliche,melody isn't fluid enough. all the things that i thought were right weren't right at all. they were wrong. and if someone who thought they were doing things right, if they thought that their stuff sounded great, and then they find out that actually it's not that great, in fact it's too cliched, or too simple, then as an "artist" with integrity i have to know when to bow out and i'm bowing out there's nothing wrong with that is there? i'm just trying to keep some kind of integrity as an artist. i wouldn't want an artist like Reznor, or James to spout out shit just because they feel lazy or have turned commercial or whatever - I'd expect them to bow out if they felt that they've reached their creative peak and couldn't push the envelope anymore. |
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drunken thats really interesting LOL see oscillik babes? they dont think you're bad they just think you need more practise not everyone is born with Aphex twin's gift ok i think you're amazing and thats coming from both a girlfriend and an artists point of view and everyone in my family and at college love you too you need to open your eyes and see that if every artists stopped making music cuz a handfull of people didnt like 1 song, we'd have NO MUSIC in the world! Trent would have stopped making music cuz u and me didnt like a few of his songs.. Bowie would have committed suicide cuz u hate lots of his stuff!! oh and britney spears, well lets just not go into that i admire you |
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