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offline theo himself from +- on 2004-02-11 08:39 [#01068133]
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when asked about singing on his own songs:

"I'm quite into my voice actually.. but um, I'm into like
spectrally extracting like famous people's voices and
mapping them into mine. you know, you get this like weird
mutation voice.. you get mine, then like someone really
recognizable. it sounds.. good."

the second part is vocoding.. or something similar.. I've
heard of 'spectral' effects.. spectral delay etc.. but what,
exactly, does that mean? and what would spectral extraction
be? huh??


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-02-11 08:41 [#01068137]
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i thought you knew everything, what a let down


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-11 08:45 [#01068141]
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he does know everything, he's just testing us.


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2004-02-11 08:45 [#01068146]
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I do.. I'm just quizzing you



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-02-11 08:48 [#01068150]
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did he do the vocals in milkman this way? 8-)


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-02-11 08:50 [#01068154]
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i know quite a lot about urine extraction


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-02-11 08:53 [#01068159]
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you have a degree in medicine?


 

online big from lsg on 2004-02-11 08:57 [#01068168]
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no he's hoping we tell all about it so he can say 'yeah,
knew all that'


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-02-11 08:57 [#01068169]
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no, but i take the piss out of people a lot


 

online big from lsg on 2004-02-11 09:02 [#01068176]
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lol
got me there
*pisses over earthleakage since he's grounded anyway*


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-02-11 09:02 [#01068178]
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i imagine that can't be to pleasent...


 

online big from lsg on 2004-02-11 09:06 [#01068185]
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"im off getting pissed, bye"
big



 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-11 09:10 [#01068198]
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http://www.iua.upf.es/~xserra/local/spectral-modeling/1-Int
roduction.pdf

One google search later...


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2004-02-11 09:21 [#01068218]
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come on. you obviously didn't read that.

I'm looking for programs etc.. other musicmakers here that
might have used this and its variant applications to make
their TRAXXXXXX


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-11 09:48 [#01068287]
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I did read it :P


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-02-11 10:01 [#01068314]
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Cheers for the link, interesting stuff and just as
applicable to my graphics work :)


 

offline Jazembo from The Earth ball on 2004-02-11 10:08 [#01068327]
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Spectral/spectrum, these words describe the splitting up of
a signal (usually light) into its component bands or
wavelengths.

I would guess that he is using some sort of program to
analyse his voice pattern, split it up into its component
parts (what ever they may be) and then substitute those
parts for other peoples voice spectrum's that he has
ripped/stolen/whatever.

This is just a guess and is possibly completely wrong :)



 

offline theo himself from +- on 2004-02-11 10:19 [#01068347]
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it was a good link but not one that might get me to a
program that'll get me to something like the one he used


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-02-11 11:25 [#01068468]
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or he is lying again


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-02-11 11:35 [#01068488]
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Bogola: Most likely, sounds like he's bullshitting journos
again...



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-02-11 11:36 [#01068492]
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I've not used it, but NI's vokator is meant to be a good
vocoder.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-11 11:36 [#01068493]
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12:00 Luis I. Ortiz-Berenguer Polyphonic Transcription
Using Piano Modeling for Spectral Pattern Recognition


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-11 11:42 [#01068516]
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http://www.whiterivermall.com/Software/Audio/Utilities.html

Something useful there I think.


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2004-02-11 11:49 [#01068535]
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neah. those are mostly programs that convert filetypes


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2004-02-11 11:50 [#01068538]
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why would he pull this, of all things, out of his ass as a
lie for a journalist


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-11 11:53 [#01068541]
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rule 1: never question the motives of aphex twin.


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2004-02-11 11:57 [#01068543]
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can anyone recommend some spectrum analyzer software? (for
sound)


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2004-02-11 12:00 [#01068551]
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what is the name of the Native Instruments spectral delay
program? .. I'm guessing Spektral Delay or something lame
with a k


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-02-11 12:00 [#01068552]
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1) He loves lying to make the process of doing interviews
more entertaining for himself.

2) It's highly technical- few people would immediately spot
he's spouting bollocks and would think he really had made
some breakthrough in the area of vocoder/spectral synthesis
technology. Not saying he hasn't- just that it's unlikely.

3) He doesn't excatly have a great track record of telling
the truth in interviews now, does he?


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2004-02-11 12:03 [#01068554]
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he wasn't lying when he said that.. don't be rediculous. I
have this particular interview as a quicktime video.. he's
not playing cute little games with the interviewer by saying
that he has like a full double album with tina turner
somewhere in his apartment that he can't be 'arsed' to put
out..


 

offline aquagak from Berlin (Germany) on 2004-02-11 12:11 [#01068571]
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"spectrally extracting" thats probably how the Knievel song
was done on the abb4 release


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-11 12:20 [#01068585]
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Spectral extraction is where you hire a specially trained
ghost to literally 'suck' the audio, leaving you with a
positively ghoulified sound. It has also been known as
Ghostipulation. For more information contact Janine Melnitz.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-11 12:22 [#01068591]
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finally, some light shed on the subject.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-11 13:39 [#01068731]
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http://www.ee.columbia.edu/~marios/courses/e6820y02/project
/papers/Parametric%20Audio%20Coding.pdf

I can't find software though. Must be either:

a) Bollocks

b) Using a personal term for it

c) Customised software


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2004-02-11 15:37 [#01068857]
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Steinberg Freefilter

It's an "intelligent" spectral annalyser with a built in
EQ..

So you can play a sample of someone else singing - It'll
"learn" their frequencies - Then it'll annalyse your singing
- "learn" your frequencies - Then you can cross fade how
much you want your voice (or track or whatever) to morph
into there's - Just in terms of tone really.

I've used it in mastering before - Doing this punk band -
Couldn't be bothered to sit around and EQ each track from
scratch - So I got Freefilter to automatically get every
track to mimick the tone of a Green Day record (that was
really well produced), so I'd have less work to do later
on...

Never do things like that nowadays though.

But yeah - I could easily get myself singing with the exact
tone of Marvin Gaye or someone.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2004-02-11 15:50 [#01068872]
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sounds like a very useful prog, but i see its a list price
of ~$200!! gah! anyone know of some cheap alternatives?


 

offline ziggomatic from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-02-11 16:24 [#01068910]
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yep, Spektral Delay. that's it. you're right.
congratulations. you won.


 

offline ziggomatic from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-02-11 16:25 [#01068911]
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sorry, love.



Attached picture

 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-02-11 17:10 [#01068947]
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I hear he uses cdp.
Composers' desktop project

He metioned it on the sc forum. I think he was candid enough
there.



 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-02-11 18:36 [#01069026]
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:D i took that pic


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-02-11 18:40 [#01069034]
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thats a cool pic. you have a larger version?


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-02-11 18:42 [#01069036]
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its on my everything you do is a balloon video on slsk.
and its the front cover of my first album.
wire.fm>artists>k>KRELIAN


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-02-11 18:44 [#01069039]
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whats ur name on soulseek?



 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-02-11 18:48 [#01069043]
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Krelian, im always online, check out "my music videos"
folder. its got all my current stuff


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2004-02-11 19:02 [#01069053]
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Your videos are shit! I downloaded 1 the othe day. Are you
trying to be lo fi or just shit?


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-02-11 19:03 [#01069057]
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thankyou for the feedback!
im glad you have an opinion!
ill make some more with you in mind :)


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2004-02-11 19:05 [#01069061]
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I'm glad you like my honesty, I downloaded it in good faith.


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-02-11 19:08 [#01069062]
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which one/ones didnt you like?


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2004-02-11 19:12 [#01069066]
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the figures fighting, maybe it's a joke... I don't know.


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-02-11 19:15 [#01069068]
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if thats the only one youve seen, then yes i agree with
you.
IT WAS A JOKE!!!
watch my fluffmaster and BOC video.

btw, Arnold was also a joke video


 


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