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uzim
on 2004-01-14 08:05 [#01032774]
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okay, so, JAroen asked me to post this because he banned himself because of his exams, he copy-pasted parts and reconstituted the Squarepusher Squarewindow track, more tracks to follow, enjoy! : )
http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~rombouts/
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-01-14 08:09 [#01032783]
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Nice one :)
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Mr Toady
on 2004-01-14 08:09 [#01032784]
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nice
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-14 08:09 [#01032785]
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thank you, jaroen!
and uzim!
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Mr Toady
on 2004-01-14 08:10 [#01032786]
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*hm* heh
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-01-14 08:12 [#01032791]
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The track is awsome. Nice that the Jenk-man are focusing on melodies again.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-14 08:18 [#01032799]
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it's excellent!!!
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Erronous
from Netherlands, The on 2004-01-14 08:25 [#01032813]
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jaroen is cool!
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Archrival
on 2004-01-14 08:28 [#01032821]
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The track is excellent!!!
Where can I hear the original?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-14 08:29 [#01032824]
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what do you mean? this is the original. perhaps it varies slightly to a non copied/pasted version, but this is it. :)
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Archrival
on 2004-01-14 08:30 [#01032825]
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Is this a remix or is this the real one?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-14 08:33 [#01032832]
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no, this is it as far as i know. unfortunately, jaroen banned himself, so he can't tell us.
yo can check samples at that bleep?.com
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-14 08:34 [#01032836]
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here
search for squarewindow and it shall be there
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uzim
on 2004-01-14 08:35 [#01032838]
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the Ultravisitor track is uploaded as well! : )
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-14 08:35 [#01032840]
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hua, brilliant!!!
thanks a bunch!!!
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uzim
on 2004-01-14 08:38 [#01032845]
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(btw, the screams at the beginning of Ultravisitor and at the end of Squarewindow are by JAroen, not by Jenkinson. ^^)
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-14 08:41 [#01032852]
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squarewindow is pretty badass, listening to ultravisitor now... thanks jaroen :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-14 08:42 [#01032853]
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i love the melodies!!!
and both tracks are absolutely awesome!!!
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Archrival
on 2004-01-14 08:43 [#01032854]
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holy shit!!! Amazing tracks!!!!!
Squarepusher is at it again!!
I really hoped for material like this, we are blessed with dope music!
"he copy-pasted parts and reconstituted the Squarepusher Squarewindow track"? what do u mean? I hope to death this is the real thing and not a Jaroen mix, because I was so happy to hear that it got a strong melody and that the track is not another 220 bpm drill acid break track, im kind of tired of that stuff. Not that I dont like fast music but 2004 is a chill year for sure! :)
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uzim
on 2004-01-14 08:53 [#01032866]
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Archirival > well...
[ ( |° + ] ÉãÉÄÉiÉÑ dit : (16:01:45)    ok : ) how did you get it by the way?
Jeroen (waar?) dit : (16:01:52) Â Â Â from the warp site
Jeroen (waar?) dit : (16:01:56) Â Â Â they put samples up
Jeroen (waar?) dit : (16:02:04) Â Â Â but it fades out after 30 seconds
Jeroen (waar?) dit : (16:02:13) Â Â Â so i kept playing different parts
Jeroen (waar?) dit : (16:02:16) Â Â Â and pasted em together
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Archrival
on 2004-01-14 08:57 [#01032871]
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ok but thats impossible because the snippet on the bleep site is just 30 sec and only drums.
where did he get the ultra track?
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Archrival
on 2004-01-14 08:59 [#01032875]
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ok now I understand....u can move and listen to different parts!
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-01-14 09:01 [#01032880]
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if you log in you can listen to the whole tracks.
i like the concept of bleep; i've just bought hab1&2 whehey!!!
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Archrival
on 2004-01-14 09:01 [#01032881]
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thats it folkS!!!
ultra and squarewindow= amazing tracks
talk about u and me = average track
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-14 09:01 [#01032882]
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can't wait to get home and hear this on proper speakers. it sounds amazing as it is and im listening to it here at work on screen speakers :)
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Archrival
on 2004-01-14 09:04 [#01032886]
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yeah im gon buy some tracks for sure 1 dollar is nothing!
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-14 09:09 [#01032891]
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Cheers guys....
I can't wait for this!!!
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-01-14 09:20 [#01032897]
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cheers to jaroen for all the work
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2004-01-14 09:24 [#01032899]
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niceness! thanks j
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-01-14 10:00 [#01032969]
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yummmy!
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2004-01-14 10:00 [#01032970]
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You can thank JAroen later when warp decides to pull the plug on being able to listen to tracks because of this, too.
You lot are a bunch of sad fucks... can't wait less than two weeks to buy it? You like Tom's music enough to kick him in the nuts and steal it from him?
Nobody ever stops and thinks IF they should do something rather than if they CAN do something nowadays...
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2004-01-14 10:02 [#01032976]
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O_o
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-01-14 10:02 [#01032978]
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these samples aren't nearly enough for me to just d/l it...
i always intend to buy, and i DO.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-01-14 10:05 [#01032981]
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i agree with joyrex 100% in theory. i hate that we steal from the people we respect the most.
the only way i can justify stealing mp3's like i do, is that i promise myself i'll go back and buy all the stuff later.
but, i know damn well i'm not going to, and that i'll roast in the 4th ring of hell for it.
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2004-01-14 10:11 [#01032987]
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It's beyond even that now Epohs... now, people are going to steal 1 dollar MP3s AND not buy the album either...
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-01-14 10:12 [#01032989]
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it really sucks.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-01-14 10:14 [#01032994]
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Who the fuck are you to come into this forum to judge us? Maybe when your website is back up you can lay down your own agenda on your own turf, but until then maybe you should watch who you refer to as a sad fuck.
The files are there for everyone to listen to. JAroen pasting the clips together so they are easier to listen to only promotes the release further.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-01-14 10:17 [#01032997]
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i definately bought more cd's before napster.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-01-14 10:18 [#01032999]
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word up nigga
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Key
from Bbbbarrow-in-f (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-14 10:19 [#01033000]
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to be fair, when it is released on vinyl, someone would have ripped it and it would be all over Soulseek or Kazaa.
I respect Joyrex for his moral standpoint on stuff like this- the old BoC demo tapes for example, but to call us sad fucks and robbers is a bit out of order. On Saturday I spent 53 quid on the music of Tom Jenkinson.
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2004-01-14 10:20 [#01033001]
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Wrong, cupie doll - it's theft, pure and simple - JAroen is not "helping" anyone by doing this - if somebody wanted to hear all of the tracks, let them click around on the waveform for awhile. That's what it's there for.
And why can't I say what I feel here? Some Moderator or Phob going to ban me and shut me up for speaking my mind? This is a discussion forum, where anyone is invited to join and speak their mind - I don't recall in the rules (are there even rules?) where you cannot speak your peace.
Nobody shuts up anybody else when they insult me or my site, do they?
I think I made my point.
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2004-01-14 10:23 [#01033006]
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That's great Key - I have no problem with Mp3s per se - I just think it's sad and pathetic that someone would steal a MP3 instead of buying and waiting for it, especially when WARP was nice enough to go and allow you to listen to more than just a certain portion of the track. I bet they limit it to just 30 seconds only now because of this, and that's what I really despise - WARP is trying to give the fans what they want (and make a buck at it) and they still get shat on....
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Key
from Bbbbarrow-in-f (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-14 10:23 [#01033008]
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why not say this to the Tavcom/Watmm temp forum as well who at the moment seem to be enjoying these tracks as much as us.
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Key
from Bbbbarrow-in-f (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-14 10:27 [#01033013]
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good point. I see where your coming from but surely WARP will have expected this. I was surprised the let people hear the full tracks in the first place-theyre too good to us
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2004-01-14 10:27 [#01033014]
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I have...
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Key
from Bbbbarrow-in-f (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-14 10:28 [#01033015]
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I see
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cyanescens
from Thailand on 2004-01-14 10:28 [#01033016]
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seems to me that Warp has realised that cheap bastards aren't going to pay anyway. the only rational solution is to avoid crippling the service for those who are prepared to pay.
this will probably get them more customers in the long run anyway. I'm pretty sure they've already considered the possibility for rips like these.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-01-14 10:29 [#01033017]
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You can thank JAroen later when warp decides to pull the
plug on being able to listen to tracks because of this, too.
- So Warp Records never took this into consideration? JAroens elite hacking skills are going to shut the place down from the inside, eh?
You lot are a bunch of sad fucks... can't wait less than two
weeks to buy it? You like Tom's music enough to kick him in
the nuts and steal it from him?
- The songs are on Warps website. They are not for sale. Nothing is being stolen.
I don't recall in the rules (are there even rules?) where you cannot speak your peace.
- Seems like there would be some unspoken respect where you chose not to blatantly offend members of another community buy calling them sad fucks. I partially agree with some of the things you said. But that comment was just unnecessary, and doesn't make for good relations between communities.
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Atli
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-01-14 10:36 [#01033025]
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Two weeks...that's worth the wait imo.
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2004-01-14 10:36 [#01033027]
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Well, I'm mad, because everytime an artist or label tries to do something nice for the fans or something innovative, someone invariably comes along and ruins it.
I doubt WARP will shut bleep down, but I wouldn't be surprised if they took away the more than 1 30-second listen ability. I imagine they ran through many scenarios (possibly even the method JAroen employed) but figured nobody would be that pathetic to stitch back together audio and then distribute it.
The songs are for sale, they just won't be available until the 26th - taking material from one site and putting it on another without permission is stealing.
I think you know normally I don't like to argue about something, but this just really rubbed me the wrong way, as it was so nice to see Bleep finally up and the possibility of exclusive music and the back catalogue finally accessible for the fans like me.
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