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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 17:39 [#01022497]
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I know its a bit crazy but I reckon that Richard James should be honoured for all he has done for music no question and while they're about they could honour a few others too.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-07 17:41 [#01022501]
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-01-07 17:41 [#01022502]
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Apart from the few here, he's relatively unknown I think........just ask other people who aren't into IDM.
Richard who??!?!?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-07 17:42 [#01022503]
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im sure he would accept it :)
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 17:44 [#01022508]
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You just have to nominate him. Fact is he should definitely be Knighted. The nominations wouldn't be a problem it'd be the final say that'd be hard.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-07 17:45 [#01022511]
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who the hell would care whether they are knighted or not anyway..?
I would be very surprised if D. James would.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-07 17:47 [#01022515]
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Yes but ask all the artists that make the shit people like and see how many of them he has influenced. But in turn Richard has been really influened by many people. The true pioneers are the ones that tend to go unnoticed.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 17:47 [#01022516]
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Well I reckon he should be honoured. Quite frankly its no different from the existing accolades he receives daily accept its on a bigger more official stage.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-07 17:47 [#01022517]
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you get any money along with the title? if yes, im sure he would care :)
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 17:49 [#01022518]
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I'm sick of seeing Joe Dinosour Rock Star being honoured, when I think other music rules and goes a million time deeper musically.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-07 17:50 [#01022519]
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so what's the difference?
he already received all the accolades, why make it official?
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 17:51 [#01022520]
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No you receive no money just the honour.
Come on though seriously its about time, think of an artist more influential and not only that but who has created so much joy and pleasure for people? Well if Aphex wasn't nominated then it should be Tom J, Mike P or BOC.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-01-07 17:51 [#01022521]
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sirphex
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 17:52 [#01022522]
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qrter,
Its just you know saying by the way there is more to music than just Joe Dinosour Rockstar and the mediocre music band.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-07 17:53 [#01022525]
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he well deserves it...but i think he coudn't care less
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 17:54 [#01022527]
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Well everyone likes flattery, shit he wouldn't be human if he didn't.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2004-01-07 17:55 [#01022529]
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you don't happen to be referring to yourself now would you, as there's a hint of rancour in your post.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 17:55 [#01022531]
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In fact that award he won recently in Switzerland, which I might add was long overdue, he was absolutely beeming.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-07 17:56 [#01022533]
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what award was that??
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-07 17:57 [#01022534]
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Why does he deserve it? He has made a form of music that is relatively popular and has made a lot of money in the process. Not I know there is at least on person here who thinks he has sold out to the corporate devils, but personally I don't have a problem with that...you can't go giving knighthoods to everyone you really like though, and he hasn't done anything to further the British image which is what they are actually awarded for.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-07 17:57 [#01022535]
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and perhaps he was just high :)
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-07 17:58 [#01022537]
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Yeah right I am a real pioneer in getting slaughtered down the ale house and then pissing myself while I am asleep...if any cunt starts making money out of doing that then I am going to be very pissed off.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-07 17:58 [#01022538]
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well, he made british music much more appreciated around the world...
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 17:59 [#01022540]
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Well that is not strictly true. Honours are handed out for a whole range of activities, the arts, science, charitable work, business, civil service etc etc. Lots of musicians receive honours and the basic reason for that is because they've given pleasure to people. I think Aphex has done that.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 18:02 [#01022543]
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Majority of honours are handed out for charitable work by the way just to lay any misconseptions to rest.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-07 18:02 [#01022544]
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yes, but a LOT of people do that..
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-07 18:07 [#01022550]
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What misconception? Are you on fucking drugs or something? If you are going to be handing out knighthoods for giving people pleasure through music you would have to knight a shit load of people before you knight RDJ, people like David Grey and Daniel Beddingfield give a far greater proportion of the worlds population pleasure than RDJ.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2004-01-07 18:12 [#01022556]
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Sir Ben Dover for instance
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-07 18:14 [#01022559]
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That mother fucker should be knighted. I have suffered from dehydration thanks to his beautiful evocative art films.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 18:15 [#01022561]
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Well I think the general guidelines include things that people have done which are revolutionary. I would say Aphex hits the spot there.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-07 18:16 [#01022565]
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Then you obviously don't know the history of electronic music very well.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 18:36 [#01022611]
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Well sure I'd agree that the old guys should be acknowledged of course. Its just probably a lot of the old heads have passed away or wouldn't get the kinda of support that say Aphex would in this day and age.
I don't understand ecnadniarb why you're so down on Aphex?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-07 18:38 [#01022617]
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I believe it has more to do with the logic of this - why knight Aphex over other people?
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-07 18:40 [#01022623]
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Precisely, I'm not down on Aphex at all. And personally I consider Luke Vibert more of a pioneer than Aphex, particularly when it comes to the style of Aphex music that most people enjoy. (I mean drill)
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 18:41 [#01022627]
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Oh I see, well no particular reason but isn't that the point why knight Eric Clapton over Kraftwerk? All I'm saying is that people have to have done something fairly original or whatever and created a lot of pleasure for people that seems the general guidelines and I would have thought that Aphex fits the bill.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-01-07 18:42 [#01022628]
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Aphex Twin is about as famous as any IDM type artist gets... he isn't mainstream, but you leave the mainstream to look for more underground electronic music, and he's the first artist you come across...
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-07 18:42 [#01022630]
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Because Kraftwerk are German and as such can not receive a knighthood...duuuuuhhhhh
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-07 18:43 [#01022633]
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Claptons American as well isn't he?
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 18:43 [#01022635]
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ecnadniarb,
Well hell lets Knight Luke Vibert then thats cool with me too.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-07 18:44 [#01022639]
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Claptons not American I was thinking of Slash from Guns'n'Roses.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 18:44 [#01022641]
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Yes foreigners can I believe receive honours, there is no bar on foreigners receiving honours as I understand.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-07 18:45 [#01022643]
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The only person who should be knighted is me...and I wouldn't accept it because the Queen Mother refused to suck me off before she died.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-07 18:46 [#01022648]
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They could receive a KBE, however they could not hold the title Sir Kraftwerk...and it is quite rare that they are given out to foreign scum.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-07 18:47 [#01022649]
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ha ha
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-07 18:48 [#01022650]
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and ha ha
Sir Kraftwerk..
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-07 18:48 [#01022651]
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promo,
and just why would you like to see electronic artists get knighted?
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 18:49 [#01022654]
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Ok ecnadniarb who do you think should be honoured apart from yourself? Luke Vibert?
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 18:50 [#01022656]
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tolstoyed,
'Cause they're better than rockstars and they deserve. Duh.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-07 18:51 [#01022658]
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No one other than me...full stop. The whole honour system should be scrapped anyway. It is a commonly accepted fact that the high profile homours are given out for purely political or financial reasons.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 18:51 [#01022659]
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Totally off topic but am listening to this Amen Andrews track and I love that track with the Darth Vader 'Dark Side' sample in it. Great stuff.
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