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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-14 17:35 [#00902274]
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bah
I just lost an auction on ebay, cause some dick bid in the last minute.
what the fuck?
I mean, yeah ok, theres nothing you can do about it... but its fucking bullshit.
blarg
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-10-14 17:36 [#00902275]
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Sorry but i really wanted it...
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spoonz
from Edmonton, AB (Canada) on 2003-10-14 17:37 [#00902276]
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i do that. that's how you win, man.
what really pisses me off is when you are there in the last minute, but someone else times it even better than you, in the last last minute :P
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-14 17:37 [#00902278]
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i think its cheap
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-10-14 17:38 [#00902280]
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There is a program called auction sniper, it bids in the last seconds ...
Ebay is alright , it's PayPal who are the real fuckers.....
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-10-14 17:39 [#00902283]
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Yeah $45 for a blow up Britney doll with 'real hair' was pretty cheap...but I wouldn't have gone over $50 so you were just unlucky.
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mimi
on 2003-10-14 17:43 [#00902288]
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maybe you should bid higher than that person, thats how you win an auction
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-14 17:44 [#00902289]
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i think youre on to something here...
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-14 17:47 [#00902290]
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Yeah, they have proxy bidding, so you can put in the MAXIMUM you are williing to pay, and it will put in for you just the minimum you need to beat the other people, up until they outbid your maximum bid.
So if you put a $10 bid, and someone else bids for $1, and the bid increment is 50 cents, you will be listed as being the highest bidder with $1.50, and if nobody bids higher, you get it for 1.50.
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mimi
on 2003-10-14 17:47 [#00902292]
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haha well yes i am -- no offense, but the high bid wins, so there you have it. if you want something you have to have the high bid.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-14 17:51 [#00902297]
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yes, but when someone bids at the very last minute... it doest give me time to rebid.
ill have to use that autobid funtion next time... (this is my first time on ebay)
but dammit. It was a nord 2 rack synth, for 380 bucks. Thats what I put, and then they put 400. didnt have time to up it
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-14 17:52 [#00902298]
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Well if you were willing to pay over $400, you should have bid $400 initially...
Maybe you don't understand...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-14 17:55 [#00902303]
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yeah, but id like to get it for as cheap as possible...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-10-14 17:58 [#00902306]
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yes, but thats what proxy-bidding does.
it only bids what is needed to go over the other bidders - up to the amount you specified.
so if the amount specified isn't ridiculous, you'd still get it for a good price.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-14 18:00 [#00902308]
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Okay, I'll try another example:
The item starts at $200 with an increment of $10/bid. You put in a bid of $1000, because that's all you can afford. Ebay gives a proxy bid of $200. So the item is yours for $200, if nobody else bids.
But someone bids $300, then Ebay bids for you$310. It will do this up to $1000. So somebody bids $1100? If you had maybe instead of $1000, decided that at most, you would pay $1200, then it would put in $1110 for you. It will always put in a bid as cheap as possible for you.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-10-14 18:01 [#00902310]
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kind of silly to complain about eBay when you don't even really know how it works.. :P
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-14 18:02 [#00902312]
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hmmm
i wish i knew this an hour ago... :'(
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uviol
from United States on 2003-10-14 19:15 [#00902369]
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I still agree with you even if you didn't know how it works. I've always thought last minute bidding was cheap and a bit unfair. And I know how the damn thing works. :)
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-14 19:17 [#00902370]
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as long as you put the highest bid you are willing to pay, I don't see how it could be a problem. is it unexpected that someone may outbid you? no
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mimi
on 2003-10-14 19:22 [#00902371]
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yeah i really dont see it as unfair at all -- whoever is willing to pay the most will win...that is the premise of ebay.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-15 02:40 [#00902554]
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I put in a succesful bid manually the other day, when I saw how long was left after I processed it I saw it was three seconds :D
I never put in the max bid until right at the end because... well, 99% of the time, you win.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-10-15 03:13 [#00902571]
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"fuck ebay"? i presume you mean "fuck the user that won the auction instead of me"?
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-10-15 03:14 [#00902572]
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Ebay has been my best friend the last weeks. I luv it!
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Erronous
from Netherlands, The on 2003-10-15 03:19 [#00902574]
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bidding in the last minute works almost always profitable. I don't think it's cheap, it's just the way how it works. It's indeed just about the maximum you are willing to pay. And the highest bidder wins, that's the whole 'all'.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-10-15 03:29 [#00902582]
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Yep. Nothing unfair about that. That's how an action should be.
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nacmat
on 2003-10-15 03:36 [#00902592]
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zeus dont be so lame man... it an auction not a friends game... dont cry when you lose one in the last second... thats how it works like it or not
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uviol
from United States on 2003-10-15 04:19 [#00902619]
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I think me and Zeus are both fully aware that there's nothing technically wrong about the practice.. it's the idea that some people deliberately wait so that they can slip in a bid, regardless of the amount of time another bid has been in place. Why can't they just play fair and bid when they see the item they want? Again.. nothing technicaly wrong. It just causes a lot of heartache on the other end, and I've tried to avoid this practice because I know how bad it makes me feel when I'm the recipient of this kind of action.
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nacmat
on 2003-10-15 04:26 [#00902622]
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is nothing unfair about it.
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Erronous
from Netherlands, The on 2003-10-15 04:35 [#00902625]
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the auction isn't about time, it's just about the highest bidder. If you're afraid of those who bid in the last minute, your bid wasn't actually your highest bid. And why is that? Probably the same reason why other people bid in the last minute. (to save money)
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nacmat
on 2003-10-15 04:42 [#00902631]
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ditto
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-15 04:56 [#00902637]
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I used to think that last minute bidding was unfair but it's really not. It's exactly like a real auction with people bidding at the last minute. It's not a bad thing really it's just an annoyance.
Basically it rolls down to this:
If you're bidding early then put in the absolute maximum you're willing to pay, don't think "Well if I put $50 for now and maybe go to $100 if it goes above it. Stake your amount from the off. If you lose then you lose. You've saved yourself some money and you may pick it up cheaper in another auction.
Be prepared to lose by whatever the minimum you could be outbid by is. If it's 50cents then it's 50 cents. Think of it as a way to save money.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-15 05:01 [#00902639]
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Thing with that is, if you put in your max right from the start it spurs other people into action. Most of the stuff I bid on is pretty obscure and doesn't appeal to many people. I might put in an opening bid, or if there's just a couple of bids, to gague how much I might have to pay. If I get automatically outbid straight away I wait right till the end, then put in my max, because it gives nobody else a chance to up their bid. It is kind of sneaky, but I've won 11 auctions this way :)
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nacmat
on 2003-10-15 05:04 [#00902642]
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I ve won like 20 auctions that way too.
I never bid till the last 5 minutes then as I dont want to go all crazy outbidding till the last second, I just put my maximum bid... if I win great! if not, no problem, thats life.
but if you bid before that (couple of days before ending bid) then you just make other people bid, and it gets much more expensive.
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-10-15 05:25 [#00902661]
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i've haven't bought anything on e-bay...how do you pay for the things? are there many options?
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nacmat
on 2003-10-15 05:27 [#00902665]
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I pay via paypal.
there are more options, though thats my favourite.
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Erronous
from Netherlands, The on 2003-10-15 05:32 [#00902679]
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i use bank transfers (national) also cash is allowed most of the time.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-15 05:34 [#00902681]
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You've got a point there mate.
In other eBay news: I won this yesterday. Marks the end of my self imposed ban from eBay :)
eBay rules!
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Jaysuz Jones
from Wasaga Beach (Canada) on 2003-10-15 06:38 [#00902718]
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giginger: NICE !?!?!
I THINK it's the second - hand stores that really fuck a person over.
I found Further Down The Spiral for $5 lying around a Hock Shop, but I didn't go nuts on their CD stack, and couldn't find it yesterday.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-15 07:48 [#00902814]
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word
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-10-15 10:33 [#00902983]
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so far as i can ascertain, same rules for everyone
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-10-15 10:36 [#00902986]
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A dude at my school won a sampler (can't remember which one sorry) on eBay earlier this year, sent the money to the person and didn't get his sampler.. :s
It was a good way to lose $1500..
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purlieu
from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-15 10:38 [#00902988]
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If you don't want to be outbid at the last minute, don't bid early.
Do people SERIOUSLY think that if they bid three days in advance nobody's going to outbid them?
And if you'd managed to outbid them, Zeus, then YOU would have bid at the last minute, and be just as bad as they.
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mimi
on 2003-10-15 22:37 [#00903749]
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this is my last win
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=33516960 89
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cutFUCKER
from record bag: discogs.com (TRB) (United States) on 2003-10-15 22:40 [#00903753]
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nice chemlab pic† mimi
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mimi
on 2003-10-15 22:41 [#00903754]
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nice wiggling hand matt
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-10-16 03:25 [#00903908]
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What I don't understand is when there is an item with a reserve price. A few weeks ago I bidded on one of the UI's. My max bid was pretty high, but the "current bid" did not reach the reserve price. So because there was no high bidding from the other person, the reserve price was never reaced, although my max bid maybe was "up there". THAT is a lame thing about e-bay.
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nacmat
on 2003-10-16 03:27 [#00903910]
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could you explain again for me? I want to know about that
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Erronous
from Netherlands, The on 2003-10-16 03:28 [#00903911]
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and not true. When the reserve price hasn't been reached yet you can place a direct bid without needing this other person to bid higher.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-10-16 03:33 [#00903915]
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"The reserve price has not been met (although you are the current high bidder) .Important: To try and win this item, enter a higher maximum bid. "
How do you place the direct bid?
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Erronous
from Netherlands, The on 2003-10-16 03:34 [#00903916]
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just place a higher bid until the reserve price has been met.
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