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offline MrGerbik from United States on 2003-10-07 02:23 [#00892442]
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Directed by Sofia Coppola (Virgin Suicides) and starring
Bill Murray. Awesome flick... a bit arty, but really well
done. The music is top-notch too - My Bloody Valentine,
Air, even some Squarepusher :)



 

offline ambsace from canaDUH. on 2003-10-07 02:33 [#00892447]
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i need to get out and see this, yes.


 

offline martinhm from York (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-07 02:35 [#00892452]
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UK. Released. When?


 

offline nacmat on 2003-10-07 02:43 [#00892459]
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I was aware of this.... I am looking forward to seeing it


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-07 03:07 [#00892476]
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best movie i've seen so far this year


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-10-07 05:15 [#00892543]
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Great movie.


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-10-07 05:31 [#00892554]
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Like it snds well wckd!!!! Bill is 2 cool 4 skool. He's my
fav actor of all time of all time. He's such a hunk. I
wtched Groundhog Man like 50 tmes!!!!!!!!! And MBV! Kevin
Shields is sooooo hottt! I really really really love his
curly hair! lol! Tom Jenkinson is hot too (even tho he's
bald). lmao!!! cya.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-18 17:59 [#00956192]
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just came back from the teathre

ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT FILM!!!

cant really expect anything better then this...it makes you
laugh (mostly cos of murray) and it makes you cry in the
next scene. totally emotional, i was like shaking for the
most part of the movie - and japan fits in wonderful, you
can almost feel it yourself. oh, and MUSIC!!! - i'll be
getting this soundtrack asap...that scene when TOMMIB is
playing is brilliant - but so is most of the film...and the
karaoke scene, and...
everyone, GO SEE THIS!
:)


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-11-18 18:02 [#00956193]
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i love that scene, with her looking out over tokyo. it was
the epitome of of her lonlieness in the film i think. for b
murray, i love the scene with him golfing in front of
Fujisan (mt. fuji). there is some brilliant cinematography
in this one yeah!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-18 18:12 [#00956202]
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tommib was totally made for that scene...i wonder if sofia
picked music by herself

and bill murray - i havent seen him in a role like this
before, i loved him always, but seeing him here i like him a
100% more
and scarlet was wonderful as well - i liked her in the ghost
world already, she's good


 

offline AlfredPMcLovely from the country that will end up d (Turkmenistan) on 2003-11-18 18:23 [#00956219]
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I really really wanna see this movie. Bill Murray is a god.
However, I've heard Kevin Shield's tracks on the soundtrack,
and I was pretty let down. Then again I was hoping for an
aural blow job coming from the mastermind who brought us
Loveless. Oh well, still have those unreleased Loveless
tracks to look forward to.
aural blow job, what the hell am I talking about


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-11-18 18:25 [#00956221]
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'twas a lovely film... but i hope it isn't the best we can
come up with this year... (what has come out that was good
this year?!)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-18 18:32 [#00956230]
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matrix 3?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-18 18:35 [#00956233]
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im not sure which ones were released this year...but so far
i really liked:

lost in translation (obviously)
swimming pool
hero


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-11-18 18:37 [#00956235]
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are you talking about a chinese film starring Jet Li?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-18 18:40 [#00956239]
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yes, was that 2003?


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-11-18 18:55 [#00956262]
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in most places... yes... i haven't seen it... i don't even
think it's come here yet..


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-18 18:57 [#00956267]
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i made a thread about it, with some pics...some other people
saw it too, and apperantly there's a dvd out already
i'll bump that thread


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-11-19 00:21 [#00956546]
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yayayayyay

i'm glad you liked it......i can hardly wait to buy the DVD
so i can watch it over and over.......the feeling you get
from watching this movie is really INDESCRIBABLE or is that
UNDESCRIBABLE......whatever......

i have the soundtrack and i played the karaoke Bill Murray -
him singing the LOVERLY Bryan Ferry song......MORE THAN
THIS.....=0)

glad you liked the POOL movie as well!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-19 01:46 [#00956657]
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kind of hard not to like this movie, isnt it? :) really
brilliant...
i was serching for the dvd, and apparently there's already
one out, but it says thetrical release, so i guess i'll wait
for the proper relese - hoping for some goodies, an
interview with sophia perhaps...

gonna go and see if i can get that soundtrack somewhere in
our stores haha, tho i kind of doubt that...

about pool...
i hope i can see you online one of this days, im a bit
confused about the end - would like to see what are your
thoughts on that. were all the events in france just the
imagination of the writer, or was there another girl and all
that :)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-19 01:57 [#00956669]
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btw, another beautiful scene i really liked is where they're
laying on a bed, and she's asking him about marriage, and he
starts talking about it - he was just brilliant in that
scene - sooo convincing, and when he started to explain
about kids when they grow, how you get to see them as the
most interesting and wonderful people you ever met, really
beautiful...


 

offline Tropa from Helsinki (Finland) on 2003-11-19 01:59 [#00956672]
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tom jenkinson is bald?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-19 02:00 [#00956674]
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almost, but he still makes great music!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-19 02:35 [#00956692]
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here's the pic for scene (well its a similar scene) when
tommib is playing...


Attached picture

 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-19 02:36 [#00956693]
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and here's bill singing karaoke


Attached picture

 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-11-19 10:13 [#00957071]
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tommib was playing when she was sitting in the window--from
what i remember.

awesome movie--the music absolutely made it even better
too(except that music in the strip club which was awful but
obviously it fit the scene of what was going on.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-19 10:27 [#00957100]
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she was sitting, thats why i wrote it was a similar scene
:)

btw, do you perhaps know if sofia picked music by herself?


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-11-19 10:45 [#00957139]
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Indeed Bill Murray was breaking some new ground. But i
don't think it was that far off from the character he played
in Rushmore. Deffinately different than the character he
played in Caddy Shack...


 

offline Atop from Texas (United States) on 2003-11-19 11:13 [#00957174]
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this film was indeed one of the worst films I have ever
seen..............so boring and trite and
pretentious.........there was a bout as much insight into
Japanese culture as in an Ernest film........if Ernest went
to Japan ever had been made, it might have had more
insight............and when the main girl asks why they Mix
up their L 's and R's(speaking about the Japanese difficulty
in speaking english) i was appalled, fucking immature
Juvenile crap.............and Sophia's obvious attacks on
Cameron Diaz, the blonde haired character in the film is a
Parody of Diaz, was so distasteful and feeble minded, her
stupid hatred for Diaz is not a bit of Holywood gossip that
I need to know about.............this film is
awful...........the scene with Tommib is so boring and
unpretty.........SP probably has never seen the
film................cause he rules, and Lost In Translation
sucks dick!

thanks for Listening

Akkad The Orphic Priest


 

offline raimons from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2003-11-19 11:17 [#00957177]
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bill maurray fo life! I WANA SEE THIS FILM !!!!


 

offline Atop from Texas (United States) on 2003-11-19 11:25 [#00957186]
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this film was indeed one of the worst films I have ever
seen..............so boring and trite and
pretentious.........there was a bout as much insight into
Japanese culture as in an Ernest film........if Ernest went

to Japan ever had been made, it might have had more
insight............and when the main girl asks why they Mix

up their L 's and R's(speaking about the Japanese difficulty

in speaking english) i was appalled, fucking immature
Juvenile crap.............and Sophia's obvious attacks on
Cameron Diaz, the blonde haired character in the film is a
Parody of Diaz, was so distasteful and feeble minded, her
stupid hatred for Diaz is not a bit of Holywood gossip that

I need to know about.............this film is
awful...........the scene with Tommib is so boring and
unpretty.........SP probably has never seen the
film................cause he rules, and Lost In Translation

sucks dick!

thanks for Listening

Akkad The Orphic Priest


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-19 11:39 [#00957193]
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did you see the right film? :)

i dont really think they wanted to give us an insight into
japanese culture...it was more to emphasize the loneliness
of the main characters...perhaps this is another good thing
about the film, it gives different opinions :)


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-11-19 11:48 [#00957203]
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true,
i feel like this film could have been based in almost any
country and had the same effect. the culture just needs to
be completly alien to our own but still familiar. this is
why japan works excellently as a backdrop for this film.

i also felt like the humor was directed more at the ignorant
americans' misunderstanding of the japanese accented english
rather than the accent itself. I am half japanese, and my
mom as a bit of an accent, but i didn't take offence to this
film.

but yeah, everyone is entitled to thier own opinion. i wish
Atop could have enjoyed it as much as i did.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-19 11:53 [#00957210]
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i totally agree :) (strange enough)

i dont think film is in any way offensive towards japanese
people or culture, because it wasnt a film about their
culture or their habits...
i'd really love to read some japanese comments on this film,
just to see if they thought it was in any way offensive


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-11-19 12:08 [#00957219]
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for me the film showed how two people could be in one of the
largest populated cities and still be completely ALONE,
except for the comfort they took from each other.....two
souls tho ages apart who FOUND each other in the sea of
humanity.....that was my interpertation anyway

and that PEACHES song in the strip club was HILARIOUS. i
don't like her stuff too much....for obvious
reasons.....however that whole scene and that song just
opitimized the embarassment and funny situation they found
themselves in....wasn't the club named ORANGE......

orange

orange

ahhahahhaa


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-11-19 12:33 [#00957250]
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yeah that was funny. i thought it was especially funny
because, being in japan, they probably thirst for anything
american, in english, to find something to relate to. and
here they are and the only thing familiar to them is an
extremely crude hip hop song. alone together, the americans
share a very embarrasing moment.

is that song on the soundtrack? i'd like to hear it again,
it was MAD funny.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-19 12:39 [#00957264]
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another thing is how one fits in foreign environment - there
are people like main characters, who just cant get in the
rhythm and there are people like that young blonde actress
who seemed to enjoy it quite a bit
its a paradox in a way cos the main two couldnt fit in,
considering how friendly and polite are japanese (most of
them anyway)...i guess thats more up to have can one handle
on being alone, if you enjoy company im sure it would be
tough, but if you like to be alone japan seems like perfect
place :)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-19 12:40 [#00957265]
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have=how


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-11-19 12:50 [#00957278]
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NO! it's not.........ehehehheh

whew.....thank goodness =0)

my bf sent me that song months ago.....when i first heard it
i was like .......HUH......what.........ehehhehhe

i immediately recognized it in the movie......name is "Fuck
The Pain Away" by PEACHES (not the treaches of peaches)
ahhahahhah


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-11-19 13:02 [#00957284]
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downloading it now..

wheee!


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-11-19 13:02 [#00957285]
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the whole idea of this film is that they're in a completely
alien culture to their own, so japan is a perfect place for
that. its not some racist portrayal of japan, in fact, i
wouldn't call it a portrayal at all because the film isn't
about japan, its about the two central characters. japan
must remain alien because it serves the purpose of the
movie.


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-11-19 13:09 [#00957291]
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rascal........

NO PRIVATE DANCES!!!

keep yer clothes on man......ahhaha

zaph......agreed.....plus the whole idea that it's FULL o
people.....how could you be lonely surrounded by a SEA OF
PEOPLE!



 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-11-19 13:13 [#00957294]
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true, although the cultural barrier would probably explain
it. if they were in london or something i don't think the
movie would work.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-11-19 15:07 [#00957446]
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yeah, well of course the language barrier is a critical
element. hence the title right? heh.

and the fact that it kinda looks like, superficially anyway,
NY city.

LeCoeur: i downloaded a bunch of that peaches shit. good
gawd. it's already sitting in my recycle bin.


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-11-19 15:53 [#00957506]
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its just like modest mouse's album titled "the lonesome
crowded west"--> the same idea applies to lost in
translation.


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-11-19 15:55 [#00957511]
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did you download the new peaches album fatherfucker? haha
what a title.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-11-19 16:48 [#00957603]
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yeah, both.

i don't like it. musically, it is kinda devoid of anything
worth hearing. lyically, it is clever but forgettable.

i've already forgotten anyway.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-11-20 13:59 [#00958742]
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i actually chose the word cultural for a reason. the
language i think is less important as opposed to the culture
which is just different than western one that murray and
johansson come from. the language barrier would be an
element of this, but the actual traditions and cultural
differences between japan and the US make it as alien as it
is.
anyway, great movie. i can't wait til it comes out on dvd.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-20 14:06 [#00958752]
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moshimoshi


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-11-20 14:15 [#00958762]
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i agree.

i also like how the movie shows different parts of japanese
culture. not only the huge metropolis of tokyo but also the
shrines. like when they show the traditional japanese
wedding at that shrine. it shows a kind of ancient history
that is absent in the United States.

and the soundtrack is fantastic. i downloaded it yesterday
and have been listening to it obsessively all day today. i
especially like the track by the japanese band "happy end."
i'm probably gonna have to buy their album.


 


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