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MrGerbik
from United States on 2003-10-07 02:23 [#00892442]
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Directed by Sofia Coppola (Virgin Suicides) and starring Bill Murray. Awesome flick... a bit arty, but really well done. The music is top-notch too - My Bloody Valentine, Air, even some Squarepusher :)
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-10-07 02:33 [#00892447]
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i need to get out and see this, yes.
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martinhm
from York (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-07 02:35 [#00892452]
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UK. Released. When?
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nacmat
on 2003-10-07 02:43 [#00892459]
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I was aware of this.... I am looking forward to seeing it
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-07 03:07 [#00892476]
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best movie i've seen so far this year
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-10-07 05:15 [#00892543]
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Great movie.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-10-07 05:31 [#00892554]
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Like it snds well wckd!!!! Bill is 2 cool 4 skool. He's my fav actor of all time of all time. He's such a hunk. I wtched Groundhog Man like 50 tmes!!!!!!!!! And MBV! Kevin Shields is sooooo hottt! I really really really love his curly hair! lol! Tom Jenkinson is hot too (even tho he's bald). lmao!!! cya.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-18 17:59 [#00956192]
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just came back from the teathre
ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT FILM!!!
cant really expect anything better then this...it makes you laugh (mostly cos of murray) and it makes you cry in the next scene. totally emotional, i was like shaking for the most part of the movie - and japan fits in wonderful, you can almost feel it yourself. oh, and MUSIC!!! - i'll be getting this soundtrack asap...that scene when TOMMIB is playing is brilliant - but so is most of the film...and the karaoke scene, and...
everyone, GO SEE THIS! :)
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-11-18 18:02 [#00956193]
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i love that scene, with her looking out over tokyo. it was the epitome of of her lonlieness in the film i think. for b murray, i love the scene with him golfing in front of Fujisan (mt. fuji). there is some brilliant cinematography in this one yeah!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-18 18:12 [#00956202]
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tommib was totally made for that scene...i wonder if sofia picked music by herself
and bill murray - i havent seen him in a role like this before, i loved him always, but seeing him here i like him a 100% more
and scarlet was wonderful as well - i liked her in the ghost world already, she's good
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AlfredPMcLovely
from the country that will end up d (Turkmenistan) on 2003-11-18 18:23 [#00956219]
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I really really wanna see this movie. Bill Murray is a god. However, I've heard Kevin Shield's tracks on the soundtrack, and I was pretty let down. Then again I was hoping for an aural blow job coming from the mastermind who brought us Loveless. Oh well, still have those unreleased Loveless tracks to look forward to.
aural blow job, what the hell am I talking about
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-11-18 18:25 [#00956221]
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'twas a lovely film... but i hope it isn't the best we can come up with this year... (what has come out that was good this year?!)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-18 18:32 [#00956230]
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matrix 3?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-18 18:35 [#00956233]
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im not sure which ones were released this year...but so far i really liked:
lost in translation (obviously) swimming pool hero
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-11-18 18:37 [#00956235]
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are you talking about a chinese film starring Jet Li?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-18 18:40 [#00956239]
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yes, was that 2003?
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-11-18 18:55 [#00956262]
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in most places... yes... i haven't seen it... i don't even think it's come here yet..
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-18 18:57 [#00956267]
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i made a thread about it, with some pics...some other people saw it too, and apperantly there's a dvd out already
i'll bump that thread
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-11-19 00:21 [#00956546]
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yayayayyay
i'm glad you liked it......i can hardly wait to buy the DVD so i can watch it over and over.......the feeling you get from watching this movie is really INDESCRIBABLE or is that UNDESCRIBABLE......whatever......
i have the soundtrack and i played the karaoke Bill Murray - him singing the LOVERLY Bryan Ferry song......MORE THAN THIS.....=0)
glad you liked the POOL movie as well!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-19 01:46 [#00956657]
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kind of hard not to like this movie, isnt it? :) really brilliant...
i was serching for the dvd, and apparently there's already one out, but it says thetrical release, so i guess i'll wait for the proper relese - hoping for some goodies, an interview with sophia perhaps...
gonna go and see if i can get that soundtrack somewhere in our stores haha, tho i kind of doubt that...
about pool... i hope i can see you online one of this days, im a bit confused about the end - would like to see what are your thoughts on that. were all the events in france just the imagination of the writer, or was there another girl and all that :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-19 01:57 [#00956669]
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btw, another beautiful scene i really liked is where they're laying on a bed, and she's asking him about marriage, and he starts talking about it - he was just brilliant in that scene - sooo convincing, and when he started to explain about kids when they grow, how you get to see them as the most interesting and wonderful people you ever met, really beautiful...
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Tropa
from Helsinki (Finland) on 2003-11-19 01:59 [#00956672]
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tom jenkinson is bald?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-19 02:00 [#00956674]
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almost, but he still makes great music!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-19 02:35 [#00956692]
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here's the pic for scene (well its a similar scene) when tommib is playing...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-19 02:36 [#00956693]
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and here's bill singing karaoke
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-11-19 10:13 [#00957071]
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tommib was playing when she was sitting in the window--from what i remember.
awesome movie--the music absolutely made it even better too(except that music in the strip club which was awful but obviously it fit the scene of what was going on.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-19 10:27 [#00957100]
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she was sitting, thats why i wrote it was a similar scene :)
btw, do you perhaps know if sofia picked music by herself?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-11-19 10:45 [#00957139]
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Indeed Bill Murray was breaking some new ground. But i don't think it was that far off from the character he played in Rushmore. Deffinately different than the character he played in Caddy Shack...
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Atop
from Texas (United States) on 2003-11-19 11:13 [#00957174]
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this film was indeed one of the worst films I have ever seen..............so boring and trite and pretentious.........there was a bout as much insight into Japanese culture as in an Ernest film........if Ernest went to Japan ever had been made, it might have had more insight............and when the main girl asks why they Mix up their L 's and R's(speaking about the Japanese difficulty in speaking english) i was appalled, fucking immature Juvenile crap.............and Sophia's obvious attacks on Cameron Diaz, the blonde haired character in the film is a Parody of Diaz, was so distasteful and feeble minded, her stupid hatred for Diaz is not a bit of Holywood gossip that I need to know about.............this film is awful...........the scene with Tommib is so boring and unpretty.........SP probably has never seen the film................cause he rules, and Lost In Translation sucks dick!
thanks for Listening
Akkad The Orphic Priest
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2003-11-19 11:17 [#00957177]
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bill maurray fo life! I WANA SEE THIS FILM !!!!
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Atop
from Texas (United States) on 2003-11-19 11:25 [#00957186]
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this film was indeed one of the worst films I have ever seen..............so boring and trite and pretentious.........there was a bout as much insight into Japanese culture as in an Ernest film........if Ernest went
to Japan ever had been made, it might have had more insight............and when the main girl asks why they Mix
up their L 's and R's(speaking about the Japanese difficulty
in speaking english) i was appalled, fucking immature Juvenile crap.............and Sophia's obvious attacks on Cameron Diaz, the blonde haired character in the film is a Parody of Diaz, was so distasteful and feeble minded, her stupid hatred for Diaz is not a bit of Holywood gossip that
I need to know about.............this film is awful...........the scene with Tommib is so boring and unpretty.........SP probably has never seen the film................cause he rules, and Lost In Translation
sucks dick!
thanks for Listening
Akkad The Orphic Priest
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-19 11:39 [#00957193]
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did you see the right film? :)
i dont really think they wanted to give us an insight into japanese culture...it was more to emphasize the loneliness of the main characters...perhaps this is another good thing about the film, it gives different opinions :)
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-11-19 11:48 [#00957203]
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true, i feel like this film could have been based in almost any country and had the same effect. the culture just needs to be completly alien to our own but still familiar. this is why japan works excellently as a backdrop for this film.
i also felt like the humor was directed more at the ignorant americans' misunderstanding of the japanese accented english rather than the accent itself. I am half japanese, and my mom as a bit of an accent, but i didn't take offence to this film.
but yeah, everyone is entitled to thier own opinion. i wish Atop could have enjoyed it as much as i did.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-19 11:53 [#00957210]
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i totally agree :) (strange enough)
i dont think film is in any way offensive towards japanese people or culture, because it wasnt a film about their culture or their habits...
i'd really love to read some japanese comments on this film, just to see if they thought it was in any way offensive
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-11-19 12:08 [#00957219]
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for me the film showed how two people could be in one of the largest populated cities and still be completely ALONE, except for the comfort they took from each other.....two souls tho ages apart who FOUND each other in the sea of humanity.....that was my interpertation anyway
and that PEACHES song in the strip club was HILARIOUS. i don't like her stuff too much....for obvious reasons.....however that whole scene and that song just opitimized the embarassment and funny situation they found themselves in....wasn't the club named ORANGE......
orange
orange
ahhahahhaa
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-11-19 12:33 [#00957250]
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yeah that was funny. i thought it was especially funny because, being in japan, they probably thirst for anything american, in english, to find something to relate to. and here they are and the only thing familiar to them is an extremely crude hip hop song. alone together, the americans share a very embarrasing moment.
is that song on the soundtrack? i'd like to hear it again, it was MAD funny.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-19 12:39 [#00957264]
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another thing is how one fits in foreign environment - there are people like main characters, who just cant get in the rhythm and there are people like that young blonde actress who seemed to enjoy it quite a bit
its a paradox in a way cos the main two couldnt fit in, considering how friendly and polite are japanese (most of them anyway)...i guess thats more up to have can one handle on being alone, if you enjoy company im sure it would be tough, but if you like to be alone japan seems like perfect place :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-19 12:40 [#00957265]
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have=how
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-11-19 12:50 [#00957278]
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NO! it's not.........ehehehheh
whew.....thank goodness =0)
my bf sent me that song months ago.....when i first heard it i was like .......HUH......what.........ehehhehhe
i immediately recognized it in the movie......name is "Fuck The Pain Away" by PEACHES (not the treaches of peaches) ahhahahhah
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-11-19 13:02 [#00957284]
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downloading it now..
wheee!
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-11-19 13:02 [#00957285]
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the whole idea of this film is that they're in a completely alien culture to their own, so japan is a perfect place for that. its not some racist portrayal of japan, in fact, i wouldn't call it a portrayal at all because the film isn't about japan, its about the two central characters. japan must remain alien because it serves the purpose of the movie.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-11-19 13:09 [#00957291]
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rascal........
NO PRIVATE DANCES!!!
keep yer clothes on man......ahhaha
zaph......agreed.....plus the whole idea that it's FULL o people.....how could you be lonely surrounded by a SEA OF PEOPLE!
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-11-19 13:13 [#00957294]
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true, although the cultural barrier would probably explain it. if they were in london or something i don't think the movie would work.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-11-19 15:07 [#00957446]
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yeah, well of course the language barrier is a critical element. hence the title right? heh.
and the fact that it kinda looks like, superficially anyway, NY city.
LeCoeur: i downloaded a bunch of that peaches shit. good gawd. it's already sitting in my recycle bin.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-11-19 15:53 [#00957506]
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its just like modest mouse's album titled "the lonesome crowded west"--> the same idea applies to lost in translation.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-11-19 15:55 [#00957511]
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did you download the new peaches album fatherfucker? haha what a title.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-11-19 16:48 [#00957603]
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yeah, both.
i don't like it. musically, it is kinda devoid of anything worth hearing. lyically, it is clever but forgettable.
i've already forgotten anyway.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-11-20 13:59 [#00958742]
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i actually chose the word cultural for a reason. the language i think is less important as opposed to the culture which is just different than western one that murray and johansson come from. the language barrier would be an element of this, but the actual traditions and cultural differences between japan and the US make it as alien as it is.
anyway, great movie. i can't wait til it comes out on dvd.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-20 14:06 [#00958752]
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moshimoshi
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-11-20 14:15 [#00958762]
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i agree.
i also like how the movie shows different parts of japanese culture. not only the huge metropolis of tokyo but also the shrines. like when they show the traditional japanese wedding at that shrine. it shows a kind of ancient history that is absent in the United States.
and the soundtrack is fantastic. i downloaded it yesterday and have been listening to it obsessively all day today. i especially like the track by the japanese band "happy end." i'm probably gonna have to buy their album.
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