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ten fingers
on 2003-09-07 08:25 [#00853755]
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Really I mean, I was quibbling about the lack of features, but the part that will not cease to irk me is the unused space to the right, I just don't get it.
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eric_hard_jams
on 2003-09-07 08:46 [#00853773]
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oh yes i do :D
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-07 09:44 [#00853829]
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i like both designs
i was on xlt before watmm... so when I went to watmm, it was like overload and I really didnt like it... but after a month or 2 there... i got used to it
i like em both equally now.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-09-07 09:47 [#00853838]
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a website should fit into a 800x600 screen, thats why.
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ms-doss
from san jose (United States) on 2003-09-07 09:50 [#00853846]
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according to your respective post counts, you like this place roughly 3.0 times better. ya bastard!
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ten fingers
on 2003-09-07 09:53 [#00853848]
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800x600? Yah.... 5 years ago
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-09-07 09:56 [#00853850]
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thats the way it is...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-07 09:58 [#00853854]
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hehehe
well,,, ive been here longer!
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-07 09:58 [#00853855]
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spot on, phob....wish more web desingers thought like you...
And it should be noted that Ubb BLOAT is probably why watmm has so many Bandwidth problems/down-time....
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eric_hard_jams
on 2003-09-07 10:00 [#00853859]
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???
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-07 10:01 [#00853861]
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wrong assumption...
there was so much downtime... because the host was screwy...
my site is on the same host that watmm was, and whenever watmm was down... my site was too
i think theyve fixed the problem though... it hasnt happened in awhile...
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2003-09-07 10:05 [#00853871]
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what hasn't happened in a while? is watmm up again? ;P
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-07 10:20 [#00853889]
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Those "Monthly Bandwidth Exceeded" messages a few months back suggest otherwise, Z...
(but yes, recent roubles are the hosts fault...)....
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-07 10:21 [#00853893]
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that was once...
every other time watmm has been down in the past was due to server errors
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-07 10:22 [#00853895]
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Still down, goDel...
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2003-09-07 10:34 [#00853912]
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*sigh*
(although i would like to silently admit that it isnt half as bad here as i thought, or would like to think :))))
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-07 10:50 [#00853952]
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I think we should count ourselves lucky there are 2 high quality AFX/IDM sites on the net...]
So resally...MAJOR Props due to Phob & Crew and Joyrex for all their hard work etc....
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Murray
from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-07 10:50 [#00853953]
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here here
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eric_hard_jams
on 2003-09-07 10:52 [#00853959]
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there is more than 2!!
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2003-09-07 11:08 [#00853983]
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watxltm rules!!!!!!! :D
there are more, mr hard jams?
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-07 11:13 [#00853990]
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I know, I know...but we're talking about XLT & WATMM here, so excuse my generalistion...;)..
How about supplying some links to others worthy of note?.... (Planet Mu is pretty cool...)...
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eric_hard_jams
on 2003-09-07 11:30 [#00854007]
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yes, and you can call me ivo if you want :D
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2003-09-07 11:33 [#00854008]
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:D
ok, ivo nice to meet you in this part of the digital world
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eric_hard_jams
on 2003-09-07 11:36 [#00854009]
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i was thinking about planet-mu.com, also a worthy mention should go out to ninjatune.net (home from home for a lot of warpheads)
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Crovax
from S'toon (Canada) on 2003-09-07 14:12 [#00854162]
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my brain hurts from the space on the side
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-07 14:14 [#00854163]
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so you're from watmm right
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nekta
from shezlick (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-07 14:19 [#00854165]
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i always forget how cool this place is until watmm breaks down, and that isnt supposed to be a diss, cos this place is wicked. i just dont normally post i prefer the general topics and posts here. :-)
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2003-09-07 19:30 [#00854514]
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Heh, always gotta throw in the "...but" don't ya Jand?
I'm not about to get into some design pissing contest with Phob but I will say this:
1) 800x600 is the browser design minimum standard nowadays. While most users are using 1024 and up, the design standard always has to be the minimum, and with the new OSes supporting only 800 and up, that's why it's the standard. To design a site that requires more than the minimum forces your user to adjust, which is poor design.
2) 100% table widths (or a percentage thereof) is more professional in my opinion, as again you're not forcing the user into predefined spaces (and not maximizing your screen real estate, which at higher resolutions is the whole point).
3) We're back up! Yeah!
http://forum.watmm.com
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-08 00:42 [#00854689]
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Hey, Joy....sorry if any of my comments above sounded bitchy, not my intention at all, mate... like I said, I've got nothing but admiration for the work both you and Phob do for the wider AFX/IDM/AE etc community...
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-09-08 00:45 [#00854690]
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it's cool, man, I'm pretty sure Joy was only messin' :)
Yr right, both sites are really a godsend to us all
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-08 01:42 [#00854704]
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Wide, Wide 100% tables are one of my pet hates, I must admit....
It's a useability thing really; a golden rule of Typography is that the optimial line length is around 39 to 45 letters (approx an alphabet and a half long...)...
Doubly important online, as no-one enjoys reading large amounts of text on-screen....
(hehe...I am such a design nerd this morning...:)...
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-09-08 01:48 [#00854705]
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"no one enjoys reading large amounts of text on screen"
oh is that why we all visit messageboards?
:)
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-09-08 10:13 [#00855044]
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so why don't you use width=100% for your whole site then?
(it's all about control in my point of view, you want to control the layout and make sure the site is looking the same for all users.)
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-09-08 13:16 [#00855216]
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i use the empty space to hold my winamp ---------->
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-09-08 13:20 [#00855218]
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well, who knows what the new layout brings us anyway?
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-08 13:29 [#00855230]
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imo the board should stay this way, it's nice, simple and clear
the reason i never posted at watmm is 'cause i don't like the mb one bit, it's divided in different parts and everyone has own pics in their messages and stuff, it annoys me
i hope this mb won't change, or at least not much
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-09-08 13:38 [#00855239]
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100s of smilies?
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-09-08 13:41 [#00855245]
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i like making my pages at a width of 125% with 'overflow: hidden'.
fuck the users if they can't take a joke.
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Erronous
from Netherlands, The on 2003-09-09 08:20 [#00855796]
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I agree with Morton, the watmm forum is way too busy, all those pics and smilies really annoy me. Plus, i'm at work so i don't want all that. Here, i really like the color scheme, functional lay-out and sizes. It just looks more professional.
you should stop whining about number-nerdish stuff and just enjoy the board!
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-09-09 08:41 [#00855821]
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take yr own advice, mang ;-)
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