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offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 08:39 [#00778197]
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Had a discussion with a conspiracy theorist the other day.
Check this out:

http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/illumin.htm

This Adam Weishaupt really existed - I cross referenced with
some other sources. I know the religious over-tones are a
bit much, but it's quite interesting.

Apparently, we are in the process of creating the One World
Government right now. The advent of the "Euro" to replace
traditional currency, the UN exerting force over non-UN
countries.....the list goes on and on. Apprarently the
"world leader" has already been selected and lives in
Brussels primarily, though nobody knows his name.

A world-wide catastrophe such as world war or an
human-induced earthquake that would destroy vital technology
(i.e. Y2K...but we were prepared), would be necessary to
start the big wheels in motion.

Any thoughts on this wackiness?



 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-14 08:41 [#00778200]
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bush will allow it not to be him?


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-14 08:42 [#00778203]
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I have the dopest email address, catharsis - check it out.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 08:42 [#00778204]
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LOL!!! I almost shit my pants when I heard that Bush would
be willing to let some other dufus be the world leader. I'm
sure he had a long hard boo-boo cry in his white house
bedroom though.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 08:43 [#00778207]
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YOU CONSPIRATOR!!!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-14 08:44 [#00778211]
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my email name used to be adam weishaupt anyway - it wasn't
his real name. Adam, for the first mad, Weishaupt meaning
Wise Head (lit.). It was founded the same year as US
Independance, 200 years before I was born, in 1976.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-07-14 08:46 [#00778212]
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I didn't visit your link but i heard about all of
this quite sometime ago and it is interesting to watch the
events unfold.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 08:46 [#00778213]
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You mean May 1, 1776.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 08:46 [#00778214]
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Nothing like a good satanic government to make you feel all
warm and fuzzy inside.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-14 08:48 [#00778216]
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Yep, may 1st - the full name is the Bavarian Order of the
Illuminati, or some such -- there may be a 'new' there, as
it was a resurrection of an older order.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 08:50 [#00778220]
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Apparently some communist cultures still celebrate May
1.....bastards. Let's go grab our torches and pitchforks
and overthrow these bastards right now!!! There's billions
of us, and only a handful of them!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-14 08:51 [#00778223]
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May 1st is a bank-holiday in the UK: May day.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 08:53 [#00778226]
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Hmmmm.... let's see.... Order of Illuminati founded on May
1. World Banks control world money......celebrate
"bank-day" on May 1. Coincidence?


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-14 08:57 [#00778227]
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Well, Weishaupt might have chosen that date based on an
EARLIER event ... so the banks etc. may not be basing it on
The Bavarian Illuminati, but on some earlier date... not
sure, haven't read up on the subject in quite a while.

Obviously, I believe there is a global conspiracy tho, it's
the only rational explanation.


 

offline Peloton from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-14 08:59 [#00778228]
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There are numerous family dynasties linked with the New
World Order, the Rockefellas being one of them.

This...

click here

... is the open letter the Rockefellas sent to the UN last
year.

The last paragraph and the agenda is interesting.



 

offline earface from somewhere (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-14 09:00 [#00778230]
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The English and the Welsh celebrate May 1st as a workers
holiday. London usually gets completely fucked up on May
Day.

In 2000 (I think) that statue of Winston Churchill was
covered in paint with a hammer and sickle and a green
mohican.
McDonalds and similar multinationals were completely
demolished.
This group of protestors calling themselves the Wombles make
their own body armour and shields and use them to charge
through Police riot control units.

All good fun. 2000 was an excellent year. The only problem
IMO is that some cunt (I think the word is applicable) took
upon themselves to daub "MURDERERS" on the Senitaf - which I
think is beyond reprehensible and not keeping in with the
spirit of the whole thing.
Ah well, there's always one.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-14 09:02 [#00778231]
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"2b) World-Wide Crack Down on all religion. All Religions
will be banned. Religion can not be practiced or preached
outside the family home"

How can you ban a religion, and then imply it can be
practiced in the family home?


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-14 09:06 [#00778234]
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is that a joke?

is the agenda at the bottom what he forsees, or what he
wants to happen?

:-\


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 09:06 [#00778235]
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Rockefella's letter was completely absurd. He's speaking as
though he were God - maybe God should teach him a lesson.

That's a pretty sketchy plan if you ask me, the man thinks
he's Jesus Christ.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 09:08 [#00778237]
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I agree, a complete fucking joke. Too much LSD me thinks.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-14 09:08 [#00778238]
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The agenda doesn't ring that true - seems like a joke by
someone else.

Although it has been written that for the final push by the
New World Order, they have to become public... hence the
NeoCons becoming public... this is when they are most
vulnerable, but they appear to have the mass population
pretty well sedated


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-14 09:09 [#00778239]
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Neo Cons?



 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-14 09:10 [#00778241]
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Neo Conservatives - the 'think tank' behind many of Bush's
policies.... naturally, they claim to have no influence on
the President, and only come up with 'ideas', which he then
'chooses' to use. the words in ' ' must be accompanied by
extravagent 'quote' hand gestures!


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-14 09:13 [#00778242]
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wait, so the new world order is supposed to become public
before it takes power?

does that mean like... coming out and saying "hey, we are
the new world order, here we come!"

or just like... being active in events...

i mean, do they have to admit to being members of the
illuminati?


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 09:13 [#00778243]
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THAT'S why the most unintelligent person in the US was made
president!!!

Ohhh....it's all coming together now. They need a do'er,
not a thinker.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 09:14 [#00778245]
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And what if we revolt and don't accept this new world order?
You'll see one hell of a bloody protest. Call it a civil
war if you will.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-14 09:15 [#00778246]
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you know... there is a part of me that thinks all this is
BS... but then there is a part of me that thinks, yeah I can
see this happeneing

but man, if it did happen, people would be so shocked. I
mean, people are just going about their lives... no one
expects that there is some cult like elite group planning on
starting a new world order.

if it happens, it will be chaos and confusion

or not... ?


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-14 09:15 [#00778247]
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No, just showing themselves - the final push ! We are in
this stage! Like Elvis said, it's now or never !

They aren't gonna come out and say "Hi! We're you local
Illuminati, come to completely take over now ! Go back to
bed, you're in safe hands !" If only they did that, they'd
be easier to destroy.


 

offline Peloton from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-14 09:16 [#00778248]
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I dunno if it's a joke or not. It does sound like the
ramblings of a Jehova's witness door-stepper doesn't it?

I do think there is a conspiracy of some sort though, and it
probably does contain elements that people are labelled
'nuts' for believing. Just do a search for 'Bildebergers'
and tell me them cunts 'aint conspiring to control the
planet.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 09:16 [#00778249]
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It's all a bit of silght of hand. Distract their attention
over here on the left, while we work our dirty business over
here on the right.

Things like sports, work, television, etc....they make for
great distraction.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-14 09:17 [#00778251]
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If it happens, it's an end to a millenium of human bondage.
It means people will be freed from the shackles of control,
brainwashing, and money. People will be LIBERATED.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 09:18 [#00778252]
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THey'll never get me see......I'm going to lead the New
World Rebellion. I'll be like fucking Luke Skywalker.

(looks around for Illuminati snipers from the building
across the street).


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 09:20 [#00778256]
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Are you sure this is for good?...or for evil? The devil
speaks with a soft and friendly voice.

I believe that anyone with enough power to create a One
World Government would have to be an evil genious with the
ability to rise to his position.

After all, how many good-hearted people succeed in becoming
a staggering source of power in this world?


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-14 09:21 [#00778258]
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haha ! I mean, if these shadowy fucks are nixxed it'll be
good ! NOT if their final push goes through ! god no !


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 09:24 [#00778264]
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Everybody thought Adolf Hitler was a nice guy at one point.
His idea of a nice clean world wasn't what we had planned.
I hope this Illuminati fuck has a better idea.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-14 09:25 [#00778267]
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so you are for the new world order?

how can it be about freedom if its a system of control?

i really know nothing of the illuminati.. so if my questions
sound dumb, its because they probably are


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 09:26 [#00778268]
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hear hear. Telling me to scrap my spiritual beliefs is not
freedom.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-14 09:30 [#00778271]
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No, I'm against the New World Order - I was saying that If
we SMASH the NWO, we will be liberated !


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-14 09:33 [#00778276]
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ah ok


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-14 09:34 [#00778278]
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but... there will always be people in power...

human nature is to take control of others

and if there isnt... then it will be complete anarchy... and
life will not be like anything we know now...



 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-14 09:44 [#00778285]
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human nature to take control of others is not necessarily
true. It may be educated into us, bred into us, just told to
us. Sure, some people probably DO just 'naturally' want to
take over other people -- but I doubt the majority of
humanity 'naturally' wants to take control over other
people.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-14 09:46 [#00778288]
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hmmm

well, thats a good point, it very well could be something
put into us by society...

but, well, the entire history of man is what makes me think
otherwise...

:(


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-14 09:46 [#00778289]
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but im also a pessimist so...


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 09:56 [#00778300]
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I think we should all be whacked on the head with a
"humility" bat. It has been said in almost every world
religion:

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Simple words to live by. If everyone would heed this
paradigm we wouldn't be in this shit.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 11:39 [#00778453]
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They are coming.....


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 11:50 [#00778469]
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I guess everyone is afraid that they post to this thread,
the conspirators might send a illuminati virus into their
computer which will cause the screen to display hypnotic
illuminati mesasges, that turns you into a slave killing
machine and eventually automatic self-destruct via
subliminal suggestion of heart-failure.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-14 12:13 [#00778488]
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yeah, that happened to me once


 

offline Spacecadet on 2003-07-14 12:39 [#00778517]
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i think it's safe to say robert maxwell is a member of the
illuminati then? this is very interesting, i've often been
interested by this sort of stuff, thanks for the linkys :)


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 12:55 [#00778538]
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The number quoted by Rockafella (144,000 people), is right
out of the Bible. Unless he is Jesus, or is having direct
conversations with Jesus, or is fucking tripped right out, I
think he has a wild imagination. Jehovah's Witnesses throw
around the 144,000 people or "lambs" number alot too. Don't
really think they know what they're doing with it though.

The Bible is a book. Can I not interpret it myself? I've
never been too keen on organized religion.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-07-14 13:23 [#00778569]
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Quoting Jack Van Impe from a biblical perspective:

Consider Daniel 2:34 again:

"Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands,
which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and
clay, and brake them to pieces."

What, or better who, is the stone that smashes the image
when the ten Western nations have aligned themselves? Acts
4:11: "[Christ] is the stone which was set at nought of you
builders." First Corinthians 10:4: "And that Rock [or stone]
was Christ." Since 1948, we have witnessed an amalgamation
of Western nations in the form of the European Economic
Community or "Common Market." The movement began with
Belgium, Luxembourg, and the Netherlands joining in economic
alliance. Then France, Italy, and West Germany joined in
1957. In 1972, three additional members—Denmark, England,
and Ireland—were received. Then, on January 1, 1981,
Greece became the ratified tenth member.

However, Ireland and Denmark were never part of the old
Roman Empire. What about them? The answer is simple. Daniel
7:8 states, "I considered the horns [at the end time], and,
behold, there came up among them [the ten] another little
horn [number 11!], before whom there were three of the first
horns plucked up by the roots." Once a ten-nation Western
confederacy has been formed, number eleven comes to power,
plucks up three of the first ten, and replaces them with his
own and two others. Later the majority of the globe is under
his control. This leader will be the world dictator and
infamous Antichrist—the final global ruler.

The organization of the European Economic Community is
important because the first beast, or Antichrist of the Book
of Revelation, comes out of such an alignment of Western
nations. In Revelation 13:1, John says,

"I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up
out of the sea."

The sea speaks of nations, and the ten toes of Daniel’s
image and the ten horns of Revelation 13:1 describe a
grouping of ten nations. Because this prophecy is now in the
early stages of f


 


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