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offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-07-14 13:24 [#00778570]
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Because this prophecy is now in the early stages of
fulfillment, the stage is being set for a powerful world
leader who works through this grouping of Western nations
until he is able to assume worldwide prominence for his
"greatness." We know that he will come from the West because
Daniel 9:26 states that he is of the people that destroyed
the city and the sanctuary. Who are these people?

As we have already seen, in A.D. 70, Titus, the Roman
general from the Western nations of the old Roman Empire,
entered Jerusalem, destroyed the Temple, and drove a million
of God’s people, the Jews, to every part of the earth. Now
the prophet says that it is of this people that the
Antichrist shall come. With this information in hand, it
becomes clear this ruler will arise from the coming together
of these Western nations. This appearance of the Antichrist
then leads to another important question: the rebuilding of
the Temple in Jerusalem—another major sign of Christ’s
return.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-07-14 13:25 [#00778574]
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I read this and figured it connected with said topic so i
thought i'd post it here.

Also Alex Jones of infowars.com talks alot about this "New
World Order" and how it will turn america into a police
state.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 13:48 [#00778609]
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WOW virginpusher......ya you figured right. Thanks for your
input. I'll check out your site :)


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-07-14 13:59 [#00778632]
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Also while finding the previous quote i came across this
which might apply even more.

"I have heard a great deal about the European "Superstate"
and the coming "New World Order." Are these events also
signs of Christ's return?

The short answer is Yes! We are living at a time in which it
is not only possible for a world dictator of unprecedented
authority to emerge-the Antichrist— it is also inevitable.
God’s Word states that only seven empires will exist in
world history before Christ returns. The verse proving this
statement is Revelation 17:10:

"There are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the
other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue
a short space."

The five fallen empires referred to by John in this verse
are Assyria, Egypt, Babylon, Medo-Persia, and Greece. The
one that ruled at the time John wrote the Book of Revelation
was Rome. One more final empire would arise, but there would
first be a long delay. That global power would be the
"revived Roman Empire," a scenario we addressed briefly in
an earlier question. From this final group of nations the
figure known as the Antichrist emerges and reigns for a
brief period—just eighty-four months. So the question: Is
this period way off in the distant future? No! It is around
the corner.

The world is on the brink of submission to this latter-day
power. This revived Roman Empire is presently assembling and
organizing itself under the aegis of the European Union, a
federal Superstate that will form the basis for the last
one-world government. This dictatorship under Antichrist
rules with supernatural power, advanced twenty-first-century
technological police-state know-how, and unthinkable terror.
Is it in the making? Judge for yourself. The European
Community created the European Monetary Institute in January
1994, and it has become a central bank issuing a single
currency. We are already seeing the power, threat, and
influence of the euro.

In addition to its growing economic prowess, the European
Union will fo


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-07-14 14:00 [#00778637]
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(continued)

"the European Union will formulate common foreign and
security policies with defense issues handled by the Western
European Union. Soon, all defense policies will be made
jointly. The European Union is rapidly dissolving the ideas
of national sovereignty in a giant step toward globalism and
one-world government. The Superstate is preparing the way
for a more powerful central government, one that will
eventually be headed by a world dictator.

In Daniel 9:27, we see this future Fuhrer making a peace
contract with the nations of the earth for seven years.
During the first half of this tribulational period, the
Antichrist is controlled by satanic powers (Revelation
13:4). However, during the second forty-two months, Satan is
cast out of heaven (Revelation 12:7—11) and incarnates the
body of this world dictator (Revelation 13:3). When Satan
takes over the physical being of the Antichrist, he begins
to call himself god, magnifying himself above every god
(Daniel 11:36).

How can we know with certainty that we are close to this
historical moment? The entire prophetic scenario began in
the miraculous year of 1948, when three major world events
occurred simultaneously. The first was the rebirth of the
land of Israel. Jesus Himself predicted this event would
precede His return in Matthew 24:32—33 when He told His
disciples to come to grips with the message of the parable
of the fig tree, which always represents Israel in the
Bible. Jesus said,

"When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye
know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see
all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors."

Nothing of significance prophetically, therefore, could
happen until Israel became a nation again. That happened in
1948. In addition, that year witnessed the first meeting
that would lead to the establishment of the revived Roman
Empire, the European Union. This last-days entity would form
the political and military basis for the coming one-world
government—the apparatus by wh


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-07-14 14:02 [#00778643]
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(continued)
"This last-days entity would form the political and military
basis for the coming one-world government—the apparatus by
which the Antichrist would rule.

The third important event of 1948 was the formation of the
World Council of Churches, which would help lay the
groundwork for the one-world religious system of the
Antichrist described in Revelation 13:11 and 17:9. For more
than fifty years now, the stage has been set for a world
dictator to emerge, a man with power and authority far
beyond the scope of Nebuchadnezzar or any of his successors.
The world anxiously awaits his appearance. I have little
doubt that this great imposter is alive and waiting in the
wings. How close are we to the fateful day of his
appearance? Here is what three citizens say:

"We are in a leaderless world," is the opinion of Walter
Cronkite.

"We have a rendezvous with a world dictator and his
appearance may be soon," says economist Julian Snyder.

The internationally acclaimed Dr. Paul-Henri Spaak said,
"Europe is looking for a man so powerful that he will hold
the allegiance of all the people. Be he man or devil we are
ready to receive him."

However, it is not just a political leader for whom the
world is looking. All the major religions discuss the
emergence, in the last days, of a powerful and terrifying
spiritual figure-someone who will ultimately proclaim
himself to be God. Today’s widespread New Age philosophy
is laying the groundwork for the Antichrist’s global
religious system. Did you know, for instance, that John
Randolph Price, one of the world’s principal New Age
gurus, says his spirit guide revealed to him that 2.5
billion people may need to be wiped off the face of the
earth for their utopian spiritual dreams to be realized
(Revelation 6:8; 9:18; 13:15; 20:4)? Could such an
organization claiming a billion followers produce the
Antichrist? Definitely!

The New Age movement teaches that we are all "little gods."
I believe the Antichrist will ride the crest of that belief
and give it the cr


 

offline Peloton from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-14 14:02 [#00778644]
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"There are powers at work in this country about which we
have no knowledge." H. M. Queen Elizabeth II (in
conversation with royal butler Paul Burrell)

Yeah, being a shape-shifting reptillian from the lower
fourth dimension, she'd know

; p

Loads of links and reading material on this site...

click here



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-07-14 14:03 [#00778647]
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(continued)

"The New Age movement teaches that we are all "little gods."
I believe the Antichrist will ride the crest of that belief
and give it the credibility it does not deserve. However,
the honeymoon for the Antichrist will not last forever. He
will suffer a mortal head wound and come to his end in a
battle with Russia (Daniel 11:45). After being incarnated by
Satan, he then rises from the dead and declares himself as
the god of gods (Revelation 13:3). He demands that every
human being worship him under penalty of death (Revelation
13:15). Is it not fitting that today’s New Age leaders are
already beginning to justify the mass slaughter that will
follow?

The Antichrist will have more help, too, from someone known
as "the false prophet." It is from the leadership of this
false prophet, propped up by the revived European Empire,
that all such latter-day prophecies emerge. Rome will again
be the center of the world economically, politically,
militarily, and spiritually. Those currently moving Europe
in this direction seem inexplicably drawn to their fate.
Perhaps you remember that in 1987, the Belgians minted the
first ECU silver coins. Imprinted on them was the bust of
Emperor Charles the Fifth, crowned head of the Holy Roman
Empire in 1519.

Why was Charles chosen to be immortalized on the first-ever
European coin? Because of the striking geographical
similarity between the European Community and the Holy Roman
Empire.

But what about the ten toes and the ten nations? Hasn’t
the European Union evolved past this stage? Yes it has. That
is to be expected. Remember that we are speaking of an
eventual world government, not a regional one."



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-07-14 14:04 [#00778650]
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(and finally...)

"The European Superstate, I believe, will provide the
platform and the structure for this world dictatorship
(Daniel 7:23; Revelation 13:7). When Christ returns to
establish His earthly kingdom, a grouping of ten kings or
ten areas remain (Daniel 2:44). Interestingly, all of the
prime movers behind the globalist dream have divided the
world into ten spheres. The Trilateral Commission, the
Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderbergers, the Club of
Rome, and others that promote a one-world federation
eventually break up the globe into ten regions. One way or
another God’s Word will come to pass.

Only now, after two great European wars have been fought and
reunification has occurred, could the promises of the Bible
about a world government centered in Rome be possible.
Likewise, only now, as we prepare to enter the
twenty-first-century computer age could such a government
hope to keep track of the commercial activities of every
human being on the planet (Revelation 13:16—17).

The University of Edinburgh once was proud to claim it had a
computer that was able to perform forty billion arithmetic
transactions per second. However, that is only one of the
ten fastest computers in the world! We now have computers
that process upwards of one trillion pieces of information
per second. What an up-to-date book is the Bible!

Soon the Rapture will occur, after which a time of
unmitigated terror will engulf the globe.

"Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it"
(Jeremiah 30:7).

Daniel 12:1 describes it as a

"time of trouble, such as never was since there was a
nation."

Jesus used almost the exact words in Matthew 24:21:

"For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since
the beginning of the world."

These things must happen. They are right around the corner.
But we should have no fear about them, not as believers,
anyway. When these things come to pass, be not terrified
(see Luke 21:9).

Why? Because Jesus said that when these things come to pass,
"Kno


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-07-14 14:05 [#00778654]
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alright enough of this copy and paste shit because my
message is always downsized. fucking "a"!

anyways i thought i'd just throw that perspective into the
mix, because i find that information interesting.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 15:34 [#00778800]
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Shit......that's crazy. Oh well.....I'm just gonna go on
living an honest life, and treat others as I would want them
to treat me.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-07-14 20:15 [#00779047]
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

sorry I felt that was nessessary. I dont believe in anything
until I see it or experience it for myself. Except for
Jesus. haha. not.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 21:43 [#00779108]
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"Holy" is right weatheredstoner! I've been waiting for this
so called "end of the world" since Nostradamus predicted it
in July 1999.


 

offline Dolleater from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-07-15 01:20 [#00779153]
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For your convenience, the Eastern Branch of the New World
Order has a website.

Europa


 

offline Dolleater from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-07-15 01:29 [#00779159]
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for those who dont know, especially some/most of the
Americans. europa

There will be a President of The United States of Europe. A
council and government agencys, it will essentially be the
federal government of Europe, with limited sovergnty over
the nations just as the USA federal government has over its
states. There are a lot of implications here, some of them
are probably unrealistic to some, but i dont belive this
will stop at just Europe.


 

offline logikologos from United States on 2003-07-15 01:32 [#00779160]
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sounds weird. bot fear not. the world will go to hell. once
everyone finds out what they live in, there will be an
uprise. people will die. then, and only then, will the world
turn for the better...but for how long?



 

offline Dolleater from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-07-15 01:34 [#00779161]
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Uprise now I dare you.


 

offline logikologos from United States on 2003-07-15 01:35 [#00779162]
Points: 94 Status: Regular



dare me to...?


 

offline logikologos from United States on 2003-07-15 01:36 [#00779163]
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for 20 people online. your the only one that's talked in ten
minutes


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-07-15 01:39 [#00779166]
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Interesting....I'm always up for a good read.

Late night pondering....that should put me under. -_-


 

offline Dolleater from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-07-15 01:39 [#00779167]
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Uprise logikologos. Its easy everyones doing it!


 

offline logikologos from United States on 2003-07-15 01:40 [#00779168]
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do you ponder a lot?


 

offline logikologos from United States on 2003-07-15 01:41 [#00779170]
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people are too scared for an uprise right now. it will be
when life is not worth living this way when the uprise will
occure


 

offline Dolleater from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-07-15 01:46 [#00779173]
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People will always be scared. Media provides the means to
keep the public in fear and when people are scared- theyre
easier to manipulate. They cant think straight, they cant be
rational.
By the time life is not worth living. There will be fewer
options other than suicide and acceptance.


 

offline logikologos from United States on 2003-07-15 01:49 [#00779176]
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you're wrong, my friend. when people have no use for life in
the world they live in, the willingness to do anything is at
hand. rage is most certainly something to consider


 

offline Dolleater from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-07-15 01:56 [#00779186]
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It is a motivational force that drives people to drastic
measures granted, but in certain circumstances rage is
useless. Especially when your imprisoned, or the means to
rebel against oppression are talken away (ie. books,
fire-arms, right to organize, communicate).


 

offline logikologos from United States on 2003-07-15 01:58 [#00779190]
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you said yourself" they're irrational". ANYTHING they do,
useless or not, they do in nothing but hope...or death


 

offline Dolleater from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-07-15 02:09 [#00779198]
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I was speaking on fear btw. This is not on an induvidual
basis but I think the same applies to an angry populous. It
takes some rational people within the populous. People
un-afraid.

I believe in this particular context all that an induvidual
can do is to prevent the situation from comming to that
point. By educating the people and agitating the situation.
Perhaps then when the time comes for people to make some
critical desicions they'll be informed of the potential
consequences, when they vote or when they decide to organize
a revolutionary party and so on.


 

offline logikologos from United States on 2003-07-15 02:12 [#00779200]
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good point. but you can't deny that fact that if this world
goes to hell in a handbasket(and it will...), there will be
a revolution


 

offline esaruoho from helsinki (Finland) on 2003-07-15 05:10 [#00779283]
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the ONLY way to defeat
the NWO.


"Before we proceed I want you to put aside any preconceived
ideas you may have on how to defeat the New World Order.
Forget all the advice you've been given until now. You need
to concentrate on every single word you are about to read.
If you are skeptical, put your doubts aside until you've
finished reading the whole booklet, then you can decide
whether the information I'm giving you is credible or not."

"The road to Hell-Fire is paved with good intentions. Almost
all the people of the world have been blinded and
conditioned to the point of accepting one man-made set of
laws or another as being a valid foundation for government,
instead of simply getting back to God's Laws and His
government. Those people/patriots who are most inclined to
resist and fight the Hidden Hand are bright enough, and will
more easily recognize the flaws and injustices of their
system, and be more motivated to take action, to expose and
prosecute their frauds. Unfortunately, these same righteous
people who are attempting to do the right thing, are
misguided enough to diligently research and discover the
remedies and reliefs that are provided in their legislation,
falling right into the Hidden Hand's trap.

If you build your case using their "laws", seeking to
receive their remedy or relief, filing your actions,
counterclaims, motions, etc., in their courts/"temples",
under their rules of civil or criminal procedure and rules
of evidence, and asking their black-robed priests (judges)
to give a ruling to correct the injustice under their laws,
then no matter how that judge rules you have already lost.
You have given power to the Beast by recognizing,
acknowledging and validating their "laws", otherwise you
wouldn't have used them to seek justice. "

the ONLY way to defeat
the NWO.




 

offline Peloton from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-15 08:15 [#00779535]
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That's just Jehova's Witness propaganda.



 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-07-15 08:58 [#00779596]
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I thought everyone knew that 'the Illuminati' is really just
a bunch of controlled leaks of false information by the
'Second Level Illuminati' designed to mislead the truth
seekers.

It's all a big hoax and the sooner people realize that the
better.


 

offline Dolleater from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-07-15 09:02 [#00779602]
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There will be a desire to revolt, but it depends entirely on
the circumstances whether they can.

Inverted Whale: I dont know if your kidding or not but there
is logic in that statement.


 

offline FLUX on 2003-07-15 09:35 [#00779661]
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I stopped reading after the word SATANIC

LOL


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-15 09:38 [#00779662]
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i think the illuminati is just a story that some kid a
couple hundred years back, made for a chain letter.

Sign this letter to help stop the new world order!


 

offline FLUX on 2003-07-15 09:41 [#00779666]
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So where does Skull & Bones fit in your cosmoslogy?


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-07-15 09:48 [#00779673]
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NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM



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offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-15 09:48 [#00779675]
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ever seen the WTC/Pentagon Attacks on the $20?


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-07-15 09:50 [#00779679]
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These posers are just snorting cocaine and boning hookers in
the inner sanctum. They don't really matter.

It's just a cover: no one knows anything about the Second
Level Illuminati. They are too clever for that.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-15 09:52 [#00779682]
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well, if they are so clever, how do you know about the
second level?


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-07-15 09:57 [#00779687]
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I don't think that our paths on the Earth are
directionless.

There has to be a point on the pyramid.

'Second Level Illuminati' is just a name that I made up, of
course, but they have to exist. A group with that much real
power would never let their real intentions or existence be
known.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-15 10:00 [#00779690]
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im rather skeptical


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-15 10:01 [#00779691]
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and if there is such a group, my guess is that they are
already reaping the benifits... so this whole NWO thing isnt
nessasary.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-15 10:01 [#00779692]
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Good point Zeus. Do we want to believe that there is
something secretive and mysterious just to excite our
otherwise boring lives?

(I'm not speaking for everyone of course...)


 

offline FLUX on 2003-07-15 10:01 [#00779693]
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jesus plus nothing

neocons

george w christ


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-15 10:02 [#00779696]
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its almost like religion

but this time, its man that is the higher power. Its more
believeable


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-15 10:11 [#00779705]
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Here is what you will find on the 1$ American bill. Note
the reference to 1776. Only 2 months after Adam Weischaupt
founded the Order of Illuminati.

http://electronicvalley.org/derby/lib/derbypub/dpnews.htm


The Seal which appears on the back of a One Dollar bill
shows the Obverse and Reverse of the Seal. The Blazon (A
Heraldic term for a description of a Coat of Arms) is as
follows:

"ARMS. Paleways of thirteen pieces, argent and
gules; a chief, azure; holding in his dexter talon an olive

branch, and in his sinister a bundle of thirteen arrows,
all proper and in his beak a scroll, inscribed with the
motto,
'E Pluribus Unum.' (Out of many - one)"

"FOR THE CREST. Over the head of the eagle,
which appears above the escutcheon, a glory, or,
breaking through a cloud, proper, and surrounding
thirteen stars, forming a constellation, argent, on an azure
field."

"REVERSE. A pyramid unfinished. In the
zenith, an eye in a triangle, surrounded with glory proper.
Over
the eye these words, "Annuit Coeptis." (He has favored
our undertaking). On the base of the pyramid the numeral
letters MDCCKXXVI (July 4, 1776). and underneath the
following motto, "Norvus Ordo Seclorum." (A new
order of the ages).



 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-15 10:12 [#00779707]
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This shit is crazy. The American government really ARE set
to take over the world!


 

offline Spacecadet on 2003-07-15 10:35 [#00779750]
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keep this shit coming

my best mate brothers well into this sort of stuff, i'm
gonna see what he thinks, he knows a hell of alot about this
shit, although he's more down the alien side of stuff which
to me is so far fetched that it could mean something, maybe
not, were never gonna know i guess


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-07-15 10:47 [#00779773]
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