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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-07-14 13:24 [#00778570]
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Because this prophecy is now in the early stages of fulfillment, the stage is being set for a powerful world leader who works through this grouping of Western nations until he is able to assume worldwide prominence for his "greatness." We know that he will come from the West because Daniel 9:26 states that he is of the people that destroyed the city and the sanctuary. Who are these people?
As we have already seen, in A.D. 70, Titus, the Roman general from the Western nations of the old Roman Empire, entered Jerusalem, destroyed the Temple, and drove a million of God’s people, the Jews, to every part of the earth. Now the prophet says that it is of this people that the Antichrist shall come. With this information in hand, it becomes clear this ruler will arise from the coming together of these Western nations. This appearance of the Antichrist then leads to another important question: the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem—another major sign of Christ’s return.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-07-14 13:25 [#00778574]
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I read this and figured it connected with said topic so i thought i'd post it here.
Also Alex Jones of infowars.com talks alot about this "New World Order" and how it will turn america into a police state.
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 13:48 [#00778609]
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WOW virginpusher......ya you figured right. Thanks for your input. I'll check out your site :)
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-07-14 13:59 [#00778632]
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Also while finding the previous quote i came across this which might apply even more.
"I have heard a great deal about the European "Superstate" and the coming "New World Order." Are these events also signs of Christ's return?
The short answer is Yes! We are living at a time in which it is not only possible for a world dictator of unprecedented authority to emerge-the Antichrist— it is also inevitable. God’s Word states that only seven empires will exist in world history before Christ returns. The verse proving this statement is Revelation 17:10:
"There are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space."
The five fallen empires referred to by John in this verse are Assyria, Egypt, Babylon, Medo-Persia, and Greece. The one that ruled at the time John wrote the Book of Revelation was Rome. One more final empire would arise, but there would first be a long delay. That global power would be the "revived Roman Empire," a scenario we addressed briefly in an earlier question. From this final group of nations the figure known as the Antichrist emerges and reigns for a brief period—just eighty-four months. So the question: Is this period way off in the distant future? No! It is around the corner.
The world is on the brink of submission to this latter-day power. This revived Roman Empire is presently assembling and organizing itself under the aegis of the European Union, a federal Superstate that will form the basis for the last one-world government. This dictatorship under Antichrist rules with supernatural power, advanced twenty-first-century technological police-state know-how, and unthinkable terror. Is it in the making? Judge for yourself. The European Community created the European Monetary Institute in January 1994, and it has become a central bank issuing a single currency. We are already seeing the power, threat, and influence of the euro.
In addition to its growing economic prowess, the European Union will fo
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-07-14 14:00 [#00778637]
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(continued)
"the European Union will formulate common foreign and security policies with defense issues handled by the Western European Union. Soon, all defense policies will be made jointly. The European Union is rapidly dissolving the ideas of national sovereignty in a giant step toward globalism and one-world government. The Superstate is preparing the way for a more powerful central government, one that will eventually be headed by a world dictator.
In Daniel 9:27, we see this future Fuhrer making a peace contract with the nations of the earth for seven years. During the first half of this tribulational period, the Antichrist is controlled by satanic powers (Revelation 13:4). However, during the second forty-two months, Satan is cast out of heaven (Revelation 12:7—11) and incarnates the body of this world dictator (Revelation 13:3). When Satan takes over the physical being of the Antichrist, he begins to call himself god, magnifying himself above every god (Daniel 11:36).
How can we know with certainty that we are close to this historical moment? The entire prophetic scenario began in the miraculous year of 1948, when three major world events occurred simultaneously. The first was the rebirth of the land of Israel. Jesus Himself predicted this event would precede His return in Matthew 24:32—33 when He told His disciples to come to grips with the message of the parable of the fig tree, which always represents Israel in the Bible. Jesus said,
"When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors."
Nothing of significance prophetically, therefore, could happen until Israel became a nation again. That happened in 1948. In addition, that year witnessed the first meeting that would lead to the establishment of the revived Roman Empire, the European Union. This last-days entity would form the political and military basis for the coming one-world government—the apparatus by wh
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from County Clare on 2003-07-14 14:02 [#00778643]
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(continued) "This last-days entity would form the political and military basis for the coming one-world government—the apparatus by which the Antichrist would rule.
The third important event of 1948 was the formation of the World Council of Churches, which would help lay the groundwork for the one-world religious system of the Antichrist described in Revelation 13:11 and 17:9. For more than fifty years now, the stage has been set for a world dictator to emerge, a man with power and authority far beyond the scope of Nebuchadnezzar or any of his successors. The world anxiously awaits his appearance. I have little doubt that this great imposter is alive and waiting in the wings. How close are we to the fateful day of his appearance? Here is what three citizens say:
"We are in a leaderless world," is the opinion of Walter Cronkite.
"We have a rendezvous with a world dictator and his appearance may be soon," says economist Julian Snyder.
The internationally acclaimed Dr. Paul-Henri Spaak said, "Europe is looking for a man so powerful that he will hold the allegiance of all the people. Be he man or devil we are ready to receive him."
However, it is not just a political leader for whom the world is looking. All the major religions discuss the emergence, in the last days, of a powerful and terrifying spiritual figure-someone who will ultimately proclaim himself to be God. Today’s widespread New Age philosophy is laying the groundwork for the Antichrist’s global religious system. Did you know, for instance, that John Randolph Price, one of the world’s principal New Age gurus, says his spirit guide revealed to him that 2.5 billion people may need to be wiped off the face of the earth for their utopian spiritual dreams to be realized (Revelation 6:8; 9:18; 13:15; 20:4)? Could such an organization claiming a billion followers produce the Antichrist? Definitely!
The New Age movement teaches that we are all "little gods." I believe the Antichrist will ride the crest of that belief and give it the cr
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-14 14:02 [#00778644]
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"There are powers at work in this country about which we have no knowledge." H. M. Queen Elizabeth II (in conversation with royal butler Paul Burrell)
Yeah, being a shape-shifting reptillian from the lower fourth dimension, she'd know
; p
Loads of links and reading material on this site...
click here
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-07-14 14:03 [#00778647]
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(continued)
"The New Age movement teaches that we are all "little gods." I believe the Antichrist will ride the crest of that belief and give it the credibility it does not deserve. However, the honeymoon for the Antichrist will not last forever. He will suffer a mortal head wound and come to his end in a battle with Russia (Daniel 11:45). After being incarnated by Satan, he then rises from the dead and declares himself as the god of gods (Revelation 13:3). He demands that every human being worship him under penalty of death (Revelation 13:15). Is it not fitting that today’s New Age leaders are already beginning to justify the mass slaughter that will follow?
The Antichrist will have more help, too, from someone known as "the false prophet." It is from the leadership of this false prophet, propped up by the revived European Empire, that all such latter-day prophecies emerge. Rome will again be the center of the world economically, politically, militarily, and spiritually. Those currently moving Europe in this direction seem inexplicably drawn to their fate. Perhaps you remember that in 1987, the Belgians minted the first ECU silver coins. Imprinted on them was the bust of Emperor Charles the Fifth, crowned head of the Holy Roman Empire in 1519.
Why was Charles chosen to be immortalized on the first-ever European coin? Because of the striking geographical similarity between the European Community and the Holy Roman Empire.
But what about the ten toes and the ten nations? Hasn’t the European Union evolved past this stage? Yes it has. That is to be expected. Remember that we are speaking of an eventual world government, not a regional one."
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-07-14 14:04 [#00778650]
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(and finally...)
"The European Superstate, I believe, will provide the platform and the structure for this world dictatorship (Daniel 7:23; Revelation 13:7). When Christ returns to establish His earthly kingdom, a grouping of ten kings or ten areas remain (Daniel 2:44). Interestingly, all of the prime movers behind the globalist dream have divided the world into ten spheres. The Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderbergers, the Club of Rome, and others that promote a one-world federation eventually break up the globe into ten regions. One way or another God’s Word will come to pass.
Only now, after two great European wars have been fought and reunification has occurred, could the promises of the Bible about a world government centered in Rome be possible. Likewise, only now, as we prepare to enter the twenty-first-century computer age could such a government hope to keep track of the commercial activities of every human being on the planet (Revelation 13:16—17).
The University of Edinburgh once was proud to claim it had a computer that was able to perform forty billion arithmetic transactions per second. However, that is only one of the ten fastest computers in the world! We now have computers that process upwards of one trillion pieces of information per second. What an up-to-date book is the Bible!
Soon the Rapture will occur, after which a time of unmitigated terror will engulf the globe.
"Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it" (Jeremiah 30:7).
Daniel 12:1 describes it as a
"time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation."
Jesus used almost the exact words in Matthew 24:21:
"For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world."
These things must happen. They are right around the corner. But we should have no fear about them, not as believers, anyway. When these things come to pass, be not terrified (see Luke 21:9).
Why? Because Jesus said that when these things come to pass, "Kno
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-07-14 14:05 [#00778654]
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alright enough of this copy and paste shit because my message is always downsized. fucking "a"!
anyways i thought i'd just throw that perspective into the mix, because i find that information interesting.
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 15:34 [#00778800]
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Shit......that's crazy. Oh well.....I'm just gonna go on living an honest life, and treat others as I would want them to treat me.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-07-14 20:15 [#00779047]
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT!
sorry I felt that was nessessary. I dont believe in anything until I see it or experience it for myself. Except for Jesus. haha. not.
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-14 21:43 [#00779108]
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"Holy" is right weatheredstoner! I've been waiting for this so called "end of the world" since Nostradamus predicted it in July 1999.
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-07-15 01:20 [#00779153]
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For your convenience, the Eastern Branch of the New World Order has a website.
Europa
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-07-15 01:29 [#00779159]
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for those who dont know, especially some/most of the Americans. europa
There will be a President of The United States of Europe. A council and government agencys, it will essentially be the federal government of Europe, with limited sovergnty over the nations just as the USA federal government has over its states. There are a lot of implications here, some of them are probably unrealistic to some, but i dont belive this will stop at just Europe.
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logikologos
from United States on 2003-07-15 01:32 [#00779160]
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sounds weird. bot fear not. the world will go to hell. once everyone finds out what they live in, there will be an uprise. people will die. then, and only then, will the world turn for the better...but for how long?
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-07-15 01:34 [#00779161]
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Uprise now I dare you.
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logikologos
from United States on 2003-07-15 01:35 [#00779162]
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dare me to...?
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logikologos
from United States on 2003-07-15 01:36 [#00779163]
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for 20 people online. your the only one that's talked in ten minutes
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-07-15 01:39 [#00779166]
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Interesting....I'm always up for a good read.
Late night pondering....that should put me under. -_-
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-07-15 01:39 [#00779167]
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Uprise logikologos. Its easy everyones doing it!
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logikologos
from United States on 2003-07-15 01:40 [#00779168]
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do you ponder a lot?
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logikologos
from United States on 2003-07-15 01:41 [#00779170]
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people are too scared for an uprise right now. it will be when life is not worth living this way when the uprise will occure
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-07-15 01:46 [#00779173]
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People will always be scared. Media provides the means to keep the public in fear and when people are scared- theyre easier to manipulate. They cant think straight, they cant be rational.
By the time life is not worth living. There will be fewer options other than suicide and acceptance.
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logikologos
from United States on 2003-07-15 01:49 [#00779176]
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you're wrong, my friend. when people have no use for life in the world they live in, the willingness to do anything is at hand. rage is most certainly something to consider
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-07-15 01:56 [#00779186]
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It is a motivational force that drives people to drastic measures granted, but in certain circumstances rage is useless. Especially when your imprisoned, or the means to rebel against oppression are talken away (ie. books, fire-arms, right to organize, communicate).
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logikologos
from United States on 2003-07-15 01:58 [#00779190]
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you said yourself" they're irrational". ANYTHING they do, useless or not, they do in nothing but hope...or death
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-07-15 02:09 [#00779198]
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I was speaking on fear btw. This is not on an induvidual basis but I think the same applies to an angry populous. It takes some rational people within the populous. People un-afraid.
I believe in this particular context all that an induvidual can do is to prevent the situation from comming to that point. By educating the people and agitating the situation. Perhaps then when the time comes for people to make some critical desicions they'll be informed of the potential consequences, when they vote or when they decide to organize a revolutionary party and so on.
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logikologos
from United States on 2003-07-15 02:12 [#00779200]
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good point. but you can't deny that fact that if this world goes to hell in a handbasket(and it will...), there will be a revolution
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esaruoho
from helsinki (Finland) on 2003-07-15 05:10 [#00779283]
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the ONLY way to defeat the NWO.
"Before we proceed I want you to put aside any preconceived ideas you may have on how to defeat the New World Order. Forget all the advice you've been given until now. You need to concentrate on every single word you are about to read. If you are skeptical, put your doubts aside until you've finished reading the whole booklet, then you can decide whether the information I'm giving you is credible or not."
"The road to Hell-Fire is paved with good intentions. Almost all the people of the world have been blinded and conditioned to the point of accepting one man-made set of laws or another as being a valid foundation for government, instead of simply getting back to God's Laws and His government. Those people/patriots who are most inclined to resist and fight the Hidden Hand are bright enough, and will more easily recognize the flaws and injustices of their system, and be more motivated to take action, to expose and prosecute their frauds. Unfortunately, these same righteous people who are attempting to do the right thing, are misguided enough to diligently research and discover the remedies and reliefs that are provided in their legislation, falling right into the Hidden Hand's trap.
If you build your case using their "laws", seeking to receive their remedy or relief, filing your actions, counterclaims, motions, etc., in their courts/"temples", under their rules of civil or criminal procedure and rules of evidence, and asking their black-robed priests (judges) to give a ruling to correct the injustice under their laws, then no matter how that judge rules you have already lost. You have given power to the Beast by recognizing, acknowledging and validating their "laws", otherwise you wouldn't have used them to seek justice. "
the ONLY way to defeat the NWO.
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-15 08:15 [#00779535]
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That's just Jehova's Witness propaganda.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-07-15 08:58 [#00779596]
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I thought everyone knew that 'the Illuminati' is really just a bunch of controlled leaks of false information by the 'Second Level Illuminati' designed to mislead the truth seekers.
It's all a big hoax and the sooner people realize that the better.
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-07-15 09:02 [#00779602]
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There will be a desire to revolt, but it depends entirely on the circumstances whether they can.
Inverted Whale: I dont know if your kidding or not but there is logic in that statement.
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FLUX
on 2003-07-15 09:35 [#00779661]
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I stopped reading after the word SATANIC
LOL
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-15 09:38 [#00779662]
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i think the illuminati is just a story that some kid a couple hundred years back, made for a chain letter.
Sign this letter to help stop the new world order!
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FLUX
on 2003-07-15 09:41 [#00779666]
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So where does Skull & Bones fit in your cosmoslogy?
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-07-15 09:48 [#00779673]
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-15 09:48 [#00779675]
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ever seen the WTC/Pentagon Attacks on the $20?
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-07-15 09:50 [#00779679]
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These posers are just snorting cocaine and boning hookers in the inner sanctum. They don't really matter.
It's just a cover: no one knows anything about the Second Level Illuminati. They are too clever for that.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-15 09:52 [#00779682]
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well, if they are so clever, how do you know about the second level?
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-07-15 09:57 [#00779687]
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I don't think that our paths on the Earth are directionless.
There has to be a point on the pyramid.
'Second Level Illuminati' is just a name that I made up, of course, but they have to exist. A group with that much real power would never let their real intentions or existence be known.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-15 10:00 [#00779690]
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im rather skeptical
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-15 10:01 [#00779691]
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and if there is such a group, my guess is that they are already reaping the benifits... so this whole NWO thing isnt nessasary.
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-15 10:01 [#00779692]
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Good point Zeus. Do we want to believe that there is something secretive and mysterious just to excite our otherwise boring lives?
(I'm not speaking for everyone of course...)
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FLUX
on 2003-07-15 10:01 [#00779693]
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jesus plus nothing
neocons
george w christ
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-15 10:02 [#00779696]
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its almost like religion
but this time, its man that is the higher power. Its more believeable
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-15 10:11 [#00779705]
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Here is what you will find on the 1$ American bill. Note the reference to 1776. Only 2 months after Adam Weischaupt founded the Order of Illuminati.
http://electronicvalley.org/derby/lib/derbypub/dpnews.htm
The Seal which appears on the back of a One Dollar bill shows the Obverse and Reverse of the Seal. The Blazon (A Heraldic term for a description of a Coat of Arms) is as follows:
"ARMS. Paleways of thirteen pieces, argent and gules; a chief, azure; holding in his dexter talon an olive
branch, and in his sinister a bundle of thirteen arrows, all proper and in his beak a scroll, inscribed with the motto,
'E Pluribus Unum.' (Out of many - one)"
"FOR THE CREST. Over the head of the eagle, which appears above the escutcheon, a glory, or,
breaking through a cloud, proper, and surrounding thirteen stars, forming a constellation, argent, on an azure field."
"REVERSE. A pyramid unfinished. In the zenith, an eye in a triangle, surrounded with glory proper. Over
the eye these words, "Annuit Coeptis." (He has favored our undertaking). On the base of the pyramid the numeral
letters MDCCKXXVI (July 4, 1776). and underneath the following motto, "Norvus Ordo Seclorum." (A new
order of the ages).
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-15 10:12 [#00779707]
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This shit is crazy. The American government really ARE set to take over the world!
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Spacecadet
on 2003-07-15 10:35 [#00779750]
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keep this shit coming
my best mate brothers well into this sort of stuff, i'm gonna see what he thinks, he knows a hell of alot about this shit, although he's more down the alien side of stuff which to me is so far fetched that it could mean something, maybe not, were never gonna know i guess
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from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-07-15 10:47 [#00779773]
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