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offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 10:32 [#00595466]
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It's not the dumb main image, it's the one at the bottom.
You can click on it for a slightly larger view.

http://artists.iuma.com/IUMA/Bands/wmw/

Please ignore the rediculous written information. They are
required fields and your account can get deleted if you put
too few words which is dumb.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 10:34 [#00595473]
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When I drew it I was thinking as the right side as the top,
sort of like a weird abstract human figure, witht he claw
things being it's arms.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-03-14 10:37 [#00595482]
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you want me to post the picture here?

I like it... how did you draw it?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 10:39 [#00595485]
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That'd be cool the quality stayed the same. I just used a
pencil and paper and imagination, and sort of the technique
I mentioned in my "static tv" post.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-03-14 10:49 [#00595500]
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nice painting indeed...



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offline nacmat on 2003-03-14 10:49 [#00595501]
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sorry it wasnt that one sorry wait!!!!


 

offline nacmat on 2003-03-14 10:50 [#00595502]
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sorry again!

but which do you mean the one with the jaws?


 

offline rephlexual from Norwich (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 10:50 [#00595503]
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thats totally different to the one i saw, which had teeth on
it!


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 10:51 [#00595505]
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heh heh, no, that's the one I said was stupid at the top.
Thanks anyway. It's the other one. (it does post it really
big though which is cool)



 

offline nacmat on 2003-03-14 10:52 [#00595507]
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well the one you say its dumb I like it a lot!

and in a much diferent style I like yours also


 

offline nacmat on 2003-03-14 10:54 [#00595508]
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here it is... if you want it bigger I shall rotate it to a
vertical position, and I didnt do this withoutyour
permission cos a painting´s direction is very important


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offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 10:54 [#00595509]
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When you sign up to iuma it's required that you have a
picture to upload (and dumb artist bios and stuff) so I just
uploaded that one, which is just a copy/paste thing I made
for fun in the simple program "paint".


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-03-14 10:55 [#00595511]
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whot da fuck

thats pretty cool!


 

offline Clic on 2003-03-14 10:55 [#00595512]
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Very nice.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 10:55 [#00595513]
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yeah, that's it. Thanksll.
8)


 

offline Clic on 2003-03-14 10:56 [#00595514]
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Even the stupid one.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-03-14 10:57 [#00595515]
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but the geometric one is yours or not?

the geometric one I love it.

yours is very nice, but its like comparing autechre to
aphex...totally diferent styles.

yours reminds me of an artist from the canary islands :
Cesar Manrique


 

offline uzim on 2003-03-14 10:57 [#00595517]
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you mean this one?

looks like a nice metal sign to me : )


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 11:01 [#00595522]
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I made both of them, but the geometric one took a lot less
thought and imagination. For the geometric one, I wanted to
experiment quickly with the idea of using multiple textures
at once (in this case obviously square thingies + line
thingies) Since they are both made of the same black small
pixels, they sort of blend into one weirder texture.
Although it usually can work better than that. Also don't be
fooled by the mirrored symmetry aesthetic. The only part I
did is the top half and top left. The rest is just mirrored.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 11:06 [#00595527]
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A metal sign? hmm. that's a weird interpretation, almost as
weird as "it looks like a peeled bannana". The textures
probably didn't unite well in the geometric one because in
the line texture, all the line angles are slanted and in the
square texture, they all are at right angles up and down. I
have about 15 or so drawings I think are as good as the
bottom one on my page and a whole mess of other drawings
that aren't as good. I stopped drawing quite abrubtly some
time ago though.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-03-14 11:10 [#00595533]
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nice picture


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-03-14 11:14 [#00595538]
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Nice. Not my style, but you seem to have a quite developed
technique if you look at the shading. it looks very
controlled. do you do any realistic drawings? i'm quite
interested in them.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-03-14 11:15 [#00595540]
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about the one you wanted to show us:

for me its very like dali too... kind of a man-fish or
fish-man and also like the fight of power


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offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-03-14 11:16 [#00595541]
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I took a second look, and its not getting worse. Wery
Gigeresque if i may say so. Cool!


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-03-14 11:19 [#00595542]
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Can you tell us something about the format? a4?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 11:20 [#00595543]
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I hated realistic drawing and that's what most art classes
were about. I kinda liked it as a recording of imagination
that you can observe later. I'm just not interested in
drawing real things. Technology has made doing that obsolete
(why not take a picture, or project a picture on the wall
and trace it?) I've drawn weird perverted faces and things,
but they were imagined and not realistic. I guess I
eventually mostly liked abstract things, but I havn't even
drawn anything in a long time. I probably made this like 3-5
years ago (I keep such great track of time, probably because
every day is the same)


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 11:23 [#00595544]
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what do you mean by format? I just used a pencil and a piece
of typing paper. The actual drawing was only 1.5 times the
size of the post nacmat did too (I draw really small- which
makes sense since it limits the work you have to do)


 

offline nacmat on 2003-03-14 11:23 [#00595545]
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look at it vertical


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offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-03-14 11:24 [#00595547]
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were you on drugs :0]


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 11:26 [#00595549]
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basically yes I was, but not chemical drugs. More like
achieving an altered state of consciousness by staring at
the top of your desk for 8 hours a day. And always being
socially nervous.


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-03-14 11:31 [#00595556]
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Haha. yeah i know that. Well you answered my question, 1,5
times bigger. i find that impressive! wery nimble. But i can
still tell you know your shit! the shading is excellent.

I can understand why you hate realistic drawing, as it
easily becomes soulless... but still, check out this guy!

www.jdhillberry.com

he scares me.


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-03-14 11:34 [#00595558]
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But the thing is: you learned realistic drawing. Thats
important. Even tho it might not interest you, its the key
to a good technique, and thereafter giving your pictures
soul. its also the thing that impresses the chicks the most!


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-03-14 11:36 [#00595563]
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lol


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 11:40 [#00595565]
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Those are much better quality, but they're not imagined and
weird. ex. onions and garlic: this makes me laugh. Who'd
want a picture of onions and garlic?? The idea of a child in
a puzzle who is putting it's own puzzle together is
interesting and sort of paradoxal, but still the images are
realistic. I havn't really checked out much historically
popular art like dali and escher etc.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-03-14 11:44 [#00595567]
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"Who'd want a picture of onions and garlic??"....... w M w

me.


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-03-14 11:44 [#00595568]
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really good.

..reminds me of the work of one Jim Woodring.

He has the archives of his 'comics' that appear in Seattle's
The Stranger weekly... you should check them out.
Seems like something that would be w M w style... but I'm
not sure if you'll like it, you're kinda weird. But hey,
maybe you will...



 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-03-14 11:46 [#00595570]
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http://www.jimwoodring.com/comicsindex.html

heres the link to the specific stuff i was talking about...


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-03-14 11:46 [#00595572]
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I admire J.D Hilberry for the technique, but i find his
motives and "feel" quite mediocore. He's not wery good at
portraits, because i find it looks like a drawing, instead
of something real. He lacks the magical element. i also find
the motives to sentimental and "kitch" in some way. but
still, fucking scary photorealistic tech! (i ordered the
book by the way, i can give you feedback if its any good
=))

BTW, you seem to take drawing rather seriusly.... what do
you do for a living/what are you studying? I'm just an
amateour with an extremely high interest myself, and i want
to go to the design school and learn animation or
illustration or something. something creative! unfortunately
i cant show you some of my own work, as i have no scanner,
but i havent created as many interesting works, as i have
created photorealistic drawings etc. that the art schools
want ( i am pretty good at this tho). phew that was long!


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 12:10 [#00595603]
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those jim woodring drawings are pretty cool. Of these
(numbered left to right) I like numbers 1,2,7,8 the most:
http://www.jimwoodring.com/sketchbook.html

I'm just an amateour too. I don't do any sort of art for a
living.. and I'm not sure if I'd want to. It might be
difficult to make money in an art field so be careful but
good luck.


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2003-03-14 12:34 [#00595626]
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yeah, a lot of people get frustrated that drawing classes
make you draw things from observation, rather from your
imagination..
their intention isnt making you learn how to draw still ife
objects or nude models..just how to translate what you see
on to paper more effectively
once you have that skill, you can use the same techniques to
transfer things from your mind
but.. that last paragraph was somewhat irrelivent, judging
by the drawing, you already seem to be a skilled
draughtsman, m.. whereas a lot of the kids i hear
complaining about not being able to draw from their
imagination in classes arent.



 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-03-14 12:39 [#00595628]
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I can draw chapes that I can see that have difinative
lines,....

so I can draw my hand in all wierd fucked up angles fine,...
but can't draw things like socks that have suddel
shading,... drawing is something I really want to get good
at though... I just need more time to invest into it


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-03-14 13:52 [#00595726]
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i like your style alot :D
litle advertising :
glass-eater.deviantart.com
yeah observation drawings are efrustrating, but if you're in
the mood, you can turn it in your own style.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 15:37 [#00595848]
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actually, I briefly experimented making my own style with
realistic drawing by combining odd things I saw in magazines
etc together. That's pretty fun to do because you can make
technically complicated nonsense. Thanks for the feedback.
I need to check out deviant art more. It's kinda hard to
understand the interface though. Is there a link with all
the drawings specifically by you? I saw the turtle one but
is there more? There was a grid on the bottom left with lots
of pictures and the static tv one had some awesome stuff.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-14 18:19 [#00595976]
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I have always like all of your artwork but this thing with
teeth..whew..luv it..right up my alley I love..bio-organic
mutating growths...
It actually reminds me of a few of the Exquisite Corpse
sketches (that old stream of conscious word/sketch game that
the surrealists used to play)

http://www.exquisitecorpse.com/definition.html


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-03-14 18:29 [#00595979]
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Jesus! they're quite good sir!


 

offline gl1tch from The Meantime (United States) on 2003-03-14 19:46 [#00595998]
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I think it almost has an Escher quality.
Very cool!


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-14 22:40 [#00596043]
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I think I'm going to read as much as I can about imagination
to understand it better, and also try to actually use it
seriously. The most powerful tool, by far, for processing
and creating has been in our heads but I've stopped putting
it to really good use. Proof is the richard d. james album
since I believe he created those tracks in a dream like
state, and dreams themselves. Autechre and aphex are good
thinkers but they can work naturally with computers too. The
computer is a very powerful augmentation of their
imagination, especially aphex. (I'm not sure how much of
autechre is the computer's themselves thinking.) Teach a
computer to imagine abstract things, now that's an
interesting idea. Thanks for looking. I'll check out that
surrealist link fleaf.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-14 22:49 [#00596047]
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WOODRING ROCKS!


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2003-03-15 00:49 [#00596070]
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im surprised you havent looked more into the surrealists,
m.. they were all about imagination and trying to depict
things from it

you would probably be well into edward gorey.. he was an
illustrator/writer who made really bizarre books that seem
like theyre for children, but often have sinister
undertones
here's one of his books online, its sort of his own version
of the 'choose your own adventure' concept
the raging tide, or the black doll's imbroglio"



 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-03-15 03:23 [#00596145]
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"M" : yes there is more glass-eater.deviantart.com
the interface is strange, but not that hard to get, you see
the turtle, there are little links to my gallery, its just
written gallery...
all my drawings : glass-eater.deviantart.com/thumbnails/


 


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