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friend from i on 2001-09-12 04:11 [#00030921]



fly planes and helicopters.... into our trade center
buildings?? no no now.. come on... I train you to say
thank-you you spit on me...your dancing around the reality
of this whole situation...
those responsible need to be punished... you seem to want to
take the balme off those actually responsible and put it on
those killed... you sound like the guy in the new york
subway who everyone saw killing passengers and who was
tackled by passengers, then defended himself in court and
said it was maybe this other guy who I shot earlier, when we
all saw YOU with the trigger... thats not the way its going
to play out.. those responsible will be pusnished, sorry but
its true...



 

f.l.e.a from NZ on 2001-09-12 04:11 [#00030922]



Dear Friend...the problem remains..in all the political
brouhaha..the victims get ignored..just like we started
doing in this exchange..it's time to refocus..innocent
people died horribly...it shouldn't have happened...and it
should not lead to other innocent people dying


 

f.l.e.a from NZ on 2001-09-12 04:14 [#00030925]



no no no you got me all wrong..I really feel for the
inncoent victims..I have been there and seen people killed
senselessly was nearly killed myself several times won't
wish it on any living being...I had fanatics issuing death
warrants on me...
but that's beside the point..I blame the culture of violence
reciprocated with violence..no one else


 

friend from i on 2001-09-12 04:15 [#00030926]



revenge on those ressponsible is the only way to rectify
this whole situation ask any little girl or boy out here
with out a Dad tonight, what they think about us training
people to fly in afganny.. " umm... ok.. so we are going to
get those who did this right?.. "yes dear.. we will!!"
but anyways I goota go see whats going on... later

 

friend from i on 2001-09-12 04:17 [#00030928]



ok.. this is just to great a thing to sum up on a message
board.. to all those invloved with friends and family I am
sorry this happend and there is not a bone in my body that
doesnt ache becasue of this terrible thing we had to witness
today.. its just horrible...


 

leftrightronic on 2001-09-12 04:32 [#00030933]



New York Police Department Live Radio Broadcast

http://www.policescanner.com/PoliceNYPD.stm

 

Quoth from Berlin on 2001-09-12 04:58 [#00030936]



this whole thing is FUBAR... i am at a total and utter shock
of this... i only ask one question, how could america have
pissed off all of the terrorists? americans will be
justified in retaliating to this kind of act, and i
completely agree with it... the terrorists fucked with the
biggest and most powerful/influential nation in the world...
big mistake

peace,
-pat aka Quoth

 

george from japan on 2001-09-12 05:09 [#00030937]



though I feel awful about the incident, america itself is
not without fault. it too has comitted heanous acts towards
countries. i.e. hiroshima/nagasaki

i've also heard that eight planes have been hijacked. just
wait and see...


 

ChemX from Miami, FL on 2001-09-12 05:10 [#00030938]



This is sick. Fuck the assholes who did this. Such cowards
to use inocent people to justify some political or religious
belief. keep the peace. RIP Chris Freeport, my cousin
presumed dead... Please pray for his safe return home


 

what from me on 2001-09-12 05:35 [#00030943]



so this is retaliation for a atom bombed droped in Japan
during WW2
what the FUCK does that have to do with this?? "American is
not innocent we did this that blah blah blah, " so let them
fly planes into our buidlings.. GO FUCK YOURSLEF!!!


 

Barrett, Syd from Toronto on 2001-09-12 05:50 [#00030949]



hiroshima and nagasaki aren't countries. they're cities in
japan.

and only 4 were taken.

Israeli tanks and bulldozers have invaded Palestine.......
this is gonna get alot worse before it gets better.



 

Barrett, Syd from Toronto on 2001-09-12 06:39 [#00030967]



the attack in afganastan was missles fired into the capital
by 2 of osama bin laden's helicopters.


 

Barrett, Syd from Toronto on 2001-09-12 06:53 [#00030981]



he's fucked. where is he going to go now? no one wants
him..... he may be getting ready to go all out, as he's not
really got alot of choices of where to go... my and a friend
were talking about that.

no one is going to want him, and his communication with
afganastan's officials has been cut off by the afganastan
officials. so maybe he's about to just blow as much shit up
as he can....

you never know.............

but i doubt that. the world would be a much safer place when
bin laden is dead....


 

PearlsGirrl on 2001-09-12 07:48 [#00030986]



just thought id share this lil tidbit:

TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES>>This, from a Canadian
newspaper, is worth sharing.
>>America: The Good Neighbor.>
>Widespread but only partial news coverage was given
>recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from
>Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television
>Commentator. What follows is the full text of his
>trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional>Record:>
>This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the
>Americans as the most generous and possibly the
>least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany,
>Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy
>were lifted out of the debris of war by the
>Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
>forgave other billions in debts.>
>None of these countries is today paying even the
>interest on its remaining debts to the United
>States. When France was in danger of collapsing in
>1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and
>their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the
>streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.>
>When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the
>United States that hurries in to help. This spring,
>59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes.
>Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman
>Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged
>countries. Now newspapers in those countries are
>writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans.
>I'd like to see just one of those countries that is
>gloating over the erosion of the United States
>dollar build its own airplane. Does any other
>country in the world have a plane to equal the
>Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the>Douglas
DC10?
>If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the
>International lines except Russia fly American
>Planes? Why does no other land on earth even
>consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You
>talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios.
>You talk about German technocracy, and you get
>automobiles. You talk about American technocracy,
>and you find men on the moon - not once, but several
>times - and safely home again.>>You talk about scandals,
and the Americans put
>theirs right in the store window for everybody to
>look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued
>and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most
>of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are
>getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to>spend
here.>
>When the railways of France, Germany and India were
breaking down through
>age, it was the Americans who
>rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the
>New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old
caboose. Both are
>still broke.>I can name you 5000 times when the Americans
raced
>to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name
>me even one time when someone else raced to the
>Americans in trouble? I don't think there was
>outside help even during the San Francisco>earthquake.>
>Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one
>Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get
>kicked around. They will come out of this thing
>with their flag high. And when they do, they are
>entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are
>gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada>is not
one of those.">
>Stand proud, America! Wear it proudly!

 

TwinPeaks_AgntCooper from Liverpool, NY (USA) on 2001-09-12 08:25 [#00030987]



I live in Syracuse, New York.

I was in NYC last month, as well as this past Christmas, as
well as last October.

I've been to the trade center.

Devistating. And anyone, anywhere - that enjoys the sight of
thousands dying, and these great monuments destroyed, or
takes this as some sort
of joke... fuck you.

The British and surrounding people seem to recognise this
tragedy well. You're good people.

Anyone else who doesn't, after seeing
the reality of this on TV for hours on end.... fuck you.

Unbelieveable.
Completely unbelieveable.

- goodnight.

 

Chrispy from UK on 2001-09-12 08:46 [#00030989]



I know whats gonna happen but I know Tony Blair will support
us and I know that I've been feeling sick for the past 18
hours... Physically sick. I'm so sorry America. I've been
thinking of you guys.


 

Chrispy from UK on 2001-09-12 08:46 [#00030990]



I meant I dont know whats gonna happen now.

soz

 

Sound Assassin from Patent Office UK on 2001-09-12 09:06 [#00030995]



The security has stepped up a couple of levels in the UK
aswell, Even the Patent Office!

Peace.

 

Osama Bin Laden on 2001-09-12 12:38 [#00031022]



Yeah !!! I did it >) you american bastards...


 

Hash Brown from UV on 2001-09-12 12:49 [#00031024]



What is the story with these 5 trucks filled with
explosives?

-- I'm listening to NIN Broken -- seems to be putting me in
the mood.

Fuck all this nonsense and shit. This is freaky shit.
Madness I tell you mad. Hasn't Ben Laden denied it? -
Although for arguments sake he may well have done it.
America can't win. Didn't nostradamus have like more
theories about the big third war - like the "persian" power
will rise and suprise the pre existing supposed super powers
who are powerless at the Persians (arguably can be
extrapolated to the Islam brotherhood).

??

??

>>>

 

Bn1 from New Zealand on 2001-09-12 13:09 [#00031027]



Insanity. I don't agree with much of Americas attitude or
the way they throw their weight around, but this is
completely unjustified. I just watched about 3 hours of
coverage and probably the most disturbing thing to watch was
the people who jumped.

http://static.stileproject.com/rnd/fp/wtc56.jpg

Watching the buildings get hit and collapse you could
distance yourself, but seeing individuals jumping and
peoples reactions on the ground...

Its a sad day.

 

Adobe from somewhere on 2001-09-12 15:36 [#00031040]



This message thread is a complete travesty. Half of you
seem more concerned with the actual numbers of dead rather
than the dead themselves. Your all like "Holy Shit!!This is
unbelievable, woah, crazy dude" --grow up you fucking
retards--this is reality not twelve monkeys or Independence
Day you fucking morons. People have died and all you sick
fucks want to talk about is the fatality ratings like a
bunch of depraved, drooling for more, Retards .eg some
asshole said something like "Its not over yet" which is
fairly true in itself, but the way the guy said it itwas
like he was rubbing his hands in glee...and all these people
posting links to sites in which you can see innocent people
having to throw themselves out of windows because their skin
is charred, fucking stop it you sensationalist bastards.
No more talk of kicking ass either like some fucking 12 year
old retard with no focus,...Blind rage never gets you/gives
anything other than more from those you take it out
on....fucking thick cunts...


 

Adobe from somewhere on 2001-09-12 15:39 [#00031041]



PS--Have some fucking respect for the dead Ba1 you fucking
gimp, what if a relative saw you posting links to see their
son daughter falling from a window. Jesus Christ..


 

Baron Von Picklefoot from The Baron Got a new computer !!!! on 2001-09-12 16:07 [#00031044]



Fucking hell this is crazy they got all of America shutdown
for themost part here I sit in ohare airport with my trusty
laptop waiting for my flight they are saying that this is
going to take a few day's before I can get out of here.I had
to spend the last 24 hours sleeping here!A good chunk of
Chicago is shutdown this is crazy I just hope this will all
end soon P.S. I met a few people here who have family
involved in the crash this is just horribal !THE BARON HAS
SPOKEN P,S, I THINK I'M GETTING A SOME KIND OF RASH FROM
SLEEPING HERE IT'S PRETTY ITCHY BUT THEN AGAIN PEOPLE MAKE
ME ITCHY


 

george from japan on 2001-09-12 16:54 [#00031052]



I apologize if my comment angered anyone. I didn't mean it
to sound the way it did. I feel awful about what happened.
I wish it never did. I would give my life for all those who
perished. This wasn't just an act against america, it was
an act against humanity.


 

Schwarzewaldekirshetorte from the black forest on 2001-09-12 17:01 [#00031053]



D'y'know who trained Osama Bin Laden? The CIA.

True.

 

REPHLEX~ology from UK on 2001-09-12 17:39 [#00031056]



Personally, i see this as a turning point. Not a shift of
power from democary to terror and intimidation, but a shift
from ignorance about the power of these organisations, to
greater unstanding of what these sick people can and will do
to get thier twisted ideas out.

I have all my condolnces with the kind and thoughful people
of america and new york that had this awful tragedy happen
to them, and hope these sick people are punished and realise
what they have done. That alone is even a tiny amount of
what the deserve.

Manchu out, peace in.

 

Barrett, Syd from Toronto on 2001-09-12 17:55 [#00031063]



200th post........... damn that came fast.

 

Xanatos from NYC on 2001-09-12 19:02 [#00031080]



If anybody would like to see some stuff I took out of the
dust from my trip yesterday to the world trade center check
it out here

http://www.stryph.com/wtc1.jpg

or just check out my thread 'I Was There' ...an amazing
experience


 

f.l.e.a from NZ on 2001-09-12 22:08 [#00031146]



24 hours have passed since I first heard about it 8 straight
hours of coverage yesterday..still the immenseness of this
event is yet to sink in as a whole..so many of the things I
saw yesterday made my heart feel sliced with scalpels..I
wish people would stop comparing it with a movie..this is
not a movie...I kept dreaming of the people in the windows
of the Trade Center..waving white cloths..and hoping minutes
before the collapse....this is real...REAL LIFE..REAL
PEOPLE..this world is never going to be the same again..this
was the cataclysm that's switched thousands of years of
evolution into reverse gear....


 

Chrispy from the UK Plains of Noise on 2001-09-12 22:28 [#00031147]



I dont think that I would ever be able to understand what
you guys have seen over there in NY. I've been feeling so
strange as though I have no insides... ...so sorry for
everyone... People round here I know tell me that they have
relatives working in the buildings and havent heard from
them... Those attacks hit everyone EVERYONE. I've cryed
twice since yesterday

man...

...

 

Baron Von Picklefoot from The Baron Got a new computer !!!! on 2001-09-13 01:06 [#00031212]



There is really nothing more I hate then seeing innocent
people dying. Nobody has the right to take another human's
life no matter what this is wrong. Now we are going to bomb
the hell out of who ever did this I think this is the wrong
thing to do! I really do not believe in revenge this just
keeps the cycle of violence going ! unfortunately everyone
feels that something needs to be done with the people that
carried out this attack . If we retaliate we will be also
killing thousands upon thousands of people that had nothing
to do with this ! I'm sorry I just had to say that I will
get off my soapbox now!THE BARON HAS SPOKEN !Chicago is
still shut down for the most part !


 

Jaffa Kid from UK on 2001-09-13 05:35 [#00031292]



The Baron speaks truth, wise words my friend:)

 

Barrett, Syd from Toronto on 2001-09-13 05:42 [#00031293]



i doubt that alot of innocent people will die.

but killing terrorists isn't a bad thing i don't think.
cause a dead one is better than one that's alive.


 

f.l.e.a from Nowhere on 2001-09-13 05:58 [#00031294]



um I am a bit confused here Syd..are you saying that the
kind of customary blanket bombing the US is so fond of won't
occur as a result of this retalliation that keeps being
promised?...or that the civilians that customarily die in
these blanket bombings aren't/won't be innocent?


 

Barrett, Syd from Toronto on 2001-09-13 06:11 [#00031295]



no. with NATO involved, i don't beleive it's going to be a
slaughter. I expect the terrorists to be killed, but not
alot of innocent civilians. but if the country is harbouring
the guilty and aiding them, i'm all for holding the country
responsible.


 

Jaffa Kid from UK on 2001-09-13 06:47 [#00031301]



Bollocks.......if anything the US expects a slaughter when
they do carpet bomb whichever poor country is to take the
blame for this atrocity...they won't even need evidence they
will simply rush in gung-ho like they always do and show
their military capability.....just being honest, wait a few
days and then tell me its not so ...:(

They want big figures of dead anyway, so they can compare
their own losses with those of the "enemy" (mainly innocent
civilians no doubt) and feel some false sense of victory
over what has happened..

Thousands more people will die, but dont worry they are only
arabic so they dont count half as much as White Anglos
anyway....(that is furious sarcasm by the way for those who
take it litterally )....hence we're back to square
one...east hates west..problem unsolved.....west hates east
equally......come on people ....surely there's some other
way outta here?


 

Barrett, Syd from Toronto on 2001-09-13 07:20 [#00031319]



jaffa, i don't think so. with the amount of publicity that
will cover this? how hard this will be followed? no one is
going to go trigger happy.

i'm more than happy to wait a while to see what happens, but
when it does, i don't beleive i'll be seeing it your way,
but you'll be seeing it a rational way. Bush wouldn't
slaughter people if he had any interest in a 2nd term. and
people don't want to see high numbers in a death count in
afganastan. they want to see the guilty either dead, or
brought to america for trial. tho bin ladden would probally
die before being captured, it's a possiblility.

they're not going to fuck up the whole thing by blanket
bombing everyone. that's just thinking silly!


 

Xanatos from NYC on 2001-09-13 07:22 [#00031322]



They want to give closure to the people.
They want to restore the false faith we have in the
government.
They want to restore the false sense of security we have
being the United States.

It would NOT surprise me if the U.S. government had NO
leads, found someone who had been a terrorist of some past
incident, and tortured him until he confessed, so that they
could execute him on TV for all the poor families (god bless
those who had to go through that loss) to watch. And
please, dont try to tell me the U.S. government has never
tortured anyone.

The people who elected George Bush (and I'm not one of the
people who say 'George Bush is an idiot' although they have
no real idea what the issues are or why people think he is
an idiot) will want to see a militant response. If that
means killing civilians, so be it.

As you can see...I don't have the uttermost faith, nor
patriotism towards the U.S. government.


 

f.l.e.a from Not Here on 2001-09-13 07:24 [#00031329]



one of the things that doesn't occur to the western worlds
is that fanatics are always a minority a sect even in most
of the countries they originate in..their first target is
usually their own countrymen, who according to their
doctrines have stryaed from the true path or whatever..they
only cast their gaze outward, once they have given up on the
fellow citizens, deducing that the evil is coming and
plaguing the otherwise decent god fearing people form
cultural imperialism of the western world..then the target
becomes whatever is harbouring this impurity..i.e Hollywood,
English Music..etc..etc..So in the long run when the
American go on and bomb the countries they originate
from..to them it is necessary sacrife, collateral damage
that will hopefully galvanise the rest of their fellow
countrymen to see the true way and join in the holy war..on
the path to God's Kingdom..the more damage the US bombing
does the more the fanatic's message is driven home...btw all
of this I am relating from first hand experience...


 

Barrett, Syd from Toronto on 2001-09-13 07:29 [#00031334]



bush IS an idiot though. his speechs are written out
phoneticly (dunno how to spell that one) for him. here's a
quote of him from time magazine:

"i know what i beleive. i will continue to articulate what i
beleive and what i beleive - i beleive what i beleive is
right."

that's a direct quote.


 

Xanatos from NYC on 2001-09-13 07:30 [#00031336]



Yea, that's true, but Gore is a robot.

 

Barrett, Syd from Toronto on 2001-09-13 07:34 [#00031344]



the past 2 nights conan hasn't been on. i'm twitching and
shit. i need my conan fix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 

Barrett, Syd from Toronto on 2001-09-13 07:51 [#00031350]



i've been doing nothing but watching cnn and bbc since early
yesterday morning. i need more.
UUUUHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! H!H!H!H!EHOE!OHEU
HEY! HO! LETS GO! HEY! HO! LETS GO!

talaban....... uh oh. you'sa gonna get fuck'd

 

Barrett, Syd from Toronto on 2001-09-13 08:50 [#00031373]



i hate jay leno.

 

Sound Assassin from Patent Office UK on 2001-09-13 09:48 [#00031401]



They have only rescued 13 people so far from the world trade
center...



 

Sound Assassin from Patent Office UK on 2001-09-13 14:11 [#00031461]



They reckon somewhere in the region of 8000 people missing
from the world trade center so far....



 

Schwarzewaldekirshetorte from the black forest on 2001-09-13 14:24 [#00031462]



An interesting viewpoint, from Michael Moore....

http://www.goldcd.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/mm.txt

 

Jaffa Kid from UK on 2001-09-13 14:45 [#00031465]



Reflex, they did do that mate, in Libya in 1985. Tried to
kill Gadafi all they ended up killing was his family and
innocents,,,,


 

Jaffa Kid from UK on 2001-09-13 14:47 [#00031466]



And as far as needing a good enough reason/evidence to go
ahead anyway without it Syd.....think Sudan...


 

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