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ecnadniarb
on 2002-08-29 09:36 [#00370738]
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See, you are just repeating the shit I said before...people will start think you is me and shit.
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Isaac
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 09:38 [#00370746]
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Apologies. Ihaven't even read the majority of the thread, just saw the title and put down my choices, you obviously have excellent taste!
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-08-29 09:40 [#00370751]
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Yes I have :)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-29 09:41 [#00370754]
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wu-tang forever, i bought it in 1997. i only got into hip-hop in 1995 or 1996.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-29 09:42 [#00370758]
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Ni**a Please benefited from the Neptunes production fo sho. I love it when he says "I wanna give a shout out to the Eskimos. I wanna give a shout out to the army, navy the marines".
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-08-29 09:45 [#00370767]
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That's why then...you find with a lot of people the first album they got into they seem to like the best because it was what got them interested in the group in the first place.
I am guilty of this with Nas, as much as people say Illmatic is his best album I preferred It was Written.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-29 09:45 [#00370768]
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i love it when he says "you white muthafuckas ain't gonna EVER take over! you shut the fuck up and you SHUT THE FUCK UP!"
i feel guilty listening to the album tho. as ?uestlove put it, in the pantheon of wu-tang albums, this is "the crack album". it's a little like laughing at the homeless.
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Isaac
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 09:46 [#00370772]
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Some of ODB's rants on Brooklyn Zoo are priceless, like when he bursts into 'Somewhere over the Rainbow' for no apparent reason.....Classic!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-29 09:46 [#00370773]
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putting production aside, won't you at least admit wu-tang forever had deeper lyrics than the debut? there's really a lot covered on the album whereas 36 chambers is like a party album.
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Archrival
on 2002-08-29 09:46 [#00370775]
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theres too much dope hip hop.
All DJ PRemier stuff is NICE!!!
Gang Starr - Moment Of Truth
Sunz Of Man - The LAst Shall Be First
Non Phixion - The Future Is Now
etc etc
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-08-29 09:48 [#00370779]
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He was fucked up when he made that album (and some of it was actually demos that Rza reconstructed into tracks because ODB was locked down)...who can forget the news storys about ODB standing in front of the female judge and saying to her "you want to fuck me don't you"...then when he escaped from prison he was recaptured in a McDonalds signing autographs for people.
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-08-29 09:48 [#00370783]
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Moment of Truth that was the one with Robin hood theory on? I love that album like my first born.
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Isaac
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 09:49 [#00370785]
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Maybe for the reasons that ecnadniarb stated, but in my opinion 36 Chambers is FAR superior to Forever, it just sounds more undiluted and raw, which is what you want from this style of hip-hop.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-29 09:49 [#00370786]
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are you talking about nigga please? that album was recorded before that though. i know his latest "album" is all demos that outside producers (not even rza) pieced together. i didn't buy it, i don't think odb would approve of people buying it but what choice does he have?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-29 09:50 [#00370789]
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isaac: i like raw hip-hop but wu-tang are a varied bunch, i can deal with different styles on albums.
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-08-29 09:51 [#00370797]
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No nigga please was 90% finished when he was arrested. That is why the video for Baby I Got Your Money with Kelis is actually old Blaxploitation footage with his head attached from videos he did for the first album.
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-08-29 09:52 [#00370799]
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I agree about the new one...the record label set out to ruin him with that one.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-29 09:53 [#00370800]
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i never saw the video... thanks for the info.
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Isaac
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 09:53 [#00370801]
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titsworth - me too but if I'm really in the mood for some, for want of a better phrase, 'traditional Wu-Tang' it's 36 Chambers everytime
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-29 09:54 [#00370804]
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Moment of Truth is class. Sunz of Man? Hmmm. I got rid of that. There's too much crap Wu Tan spin-off albums.
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Isaac
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 09:56 [#00370810]
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Bobby Digital by the Rza is pretty lame as well. I'll tell you what is worth getting if you haven't already, Blackout by Methodman and Redman, a veritable plethora of tunes....
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-29 09:57 [#00370816]
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{goodnight}
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-08-29 09:57 [#00370817]
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Depends on whether the group is a spin off or an affiliate though. Sunz of Man have done some decent stuff. I remember a track they did with a French rap group called Iam? It was well good.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-29 10:12 [#00370850]
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Tear the Roof Off! Redman & Methodman have two of my favourite voices.
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Isaac
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 10:26 [#00370859]
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jonesy - It's true, and so complimentary. One,w-w-w-one two one two!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-29 10:29 [#00370863]
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"Hi, my name's Mike. I'm white, I live in a predominantly white neighbourhood..."
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-08-29 10:31 [#00370865]
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hahaha
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Isaac
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 11:05 [#00370901]
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"She said three words to me: Stop, No and Don't. I said........................."
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-08-29 16:14 [#00371234]
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if you want raw hip hop... then check out clouddead... anything by the anticon collective really..
as for fantastic damage.. i really like it.. the production is amazing of course...though a bit cluttered i thought..and the rapping takes a bit of getting used to..
..check out dr octagon ...im surprised i havent seen them mentioned yet..maybe they were...but i missed it..
heres a few more off the top of my head mr lif ..since you go to school in boston, zeus, you should probably be able to catch one of his live shows..since he's from the hub himself
also look for the stuff he did with push button objects and del tha funky homosapien
aim (mostly instrumental) look for the album 'hinterland' peanut butter wolf dj vadim cujo (amon tobin's more hip hop oriented alias)
i also just got rjd2's album.. ive only heard the first two tracks so far... but it sounds very nice
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-08-29 16:16 [#00371243]
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"no i don't recomend hip hop tracks "......SwitchFrontside
AGREE let hip-hop die !!!!
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-08-29 16:16 [#00371244]
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antipop consortium........the most awesome hip hop ive ever heard
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-08-29 16:18 [#00371248]
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Kool Keith has been mentioned, but the Octogon album was hardly heavy beats it might be better looking at the Dr Dooom album with Kutmaster Kurt on production duties. Mr Lif is one of the Co Flow collective who is definitly worth a listen.
RJD2's album is quality from beginning to end. :)
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-08-29 16:23 [#00371263]
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Just a thought as well, some drum and bass would fit your original request...check out Bacteria by Ed Rush and Optical. Dark roller kind of stuff.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2002-08-29 16:37 [#00371295]
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to all the haters:
keep in mind without hip hop there would be no aphex twin.
with that said, here are my reccomendations...
quasimoto - the unseen company flow - funcrusher plus latyrx - latyrx dj shadow - introducing anything by cannibal ox anything by the anticon crew anything by the 10000 hobos crew anything by the soulsides crew
...all i can think of right now. too much coffee
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-08-29 17:10 [#00371314]
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"keep in mind without hip hop there would be no aphex twin. "----pomme de terre
I DISAGREE BIGTIME !!!
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2002-08-29 17:36 [#00371328]
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...prove me wrong
rdj has stated in many interviews that he started out spinning and producing hip hop..
not to mention that no hip hop = no turntable manipulation = no rave seen (as we know it) = no rdj
hip hop gave birth to the breakbeat. and while rdj rarely uses sampled breaks the music that paved the way for his music did.
rdj may have still written music if there were no hip hop, but i doubt any of us would have ever heard it.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2002-08-29 17:37 [#00371329]
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^"seen" = scene
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-08-29 18:12 [#00371381]
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possibly you have a point or 2, but i think he would have figured it out on his own.
thats my opinion, i agree to disagree if you do ?
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-08-29 18:19 [#00371402]
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I think the only way to settle this is to organise a duel. Meet at midday at the old saloon. I will bring a band of Samurai warriors to ensure it is a fair contest.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-08-29 18:20 [#00371404]
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i have a lightsaber and pomme de terre has nothing = i win
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jimisteel
from SLC (United States) on 2002-08-29 18:21 [#00371407]
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Motion man- "clearing the field"- album Planet Asia EP, Definition of ILL Gangstarr- mass appeal, above the clouds Kurious- im curious Automator- a better tommorrow 1&2. Dj Krush- Le Temps feat dj cam. Prince paul- you made me.- from psychoanalysis. Big daddy Kane- aint no half steppin Smif & Wesson- cessions at the doghille Black moon- who got da props, how many emcees. Common- 6th sense Ed OG - lets be realistic(instrumental) Five Deez- Wow. Herbaliser- another mother, shorty's judgement Latyrx & Dj Shadow- Lady dont tek no.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2002-08-29 19:02 [#00371475]
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i'm all ways game for agreeing to disagree..
ps- ice cream hands
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2002-08-29 20:09 [#00371578]
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the dwellas - main aim <--if that won't make you bop your head I don't know what will
gangstarr- work <--in fact anything by dj premier will get ur head nodding, and guru provides some deeper lyrics, not the ignorant raps about killing each other like animals
gangstarr - next time MS & hairy balls - BQE Heltah Skeltah - Ultimate MC Illa Noyz - Sleepers group home - 12 o' clock genius/GZA - shadowboxin non phixion ft. arsonists - 14 years of rap
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2002-08-29 20:44 [#00371618]
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anything by jurassic5 or mos def.. and biggie
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-08-29 20:46 [#00371620]
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dr octagon unkle
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SteveWardale
from Lincoln (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 20:57 [#00371639]
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Onxy - Slam Harder. DEFINATLY COOL!!!!!
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-08-29 21:02 [#00371651]
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hehehe onyx and a new album...heheh
i had bacdafukup, can anyone send me slam harder ? im kinda curiouse
thad1us@yahoo.com
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jimisteel
from SLC (United States) on 2002-08-29 21:53 [#00371712]
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