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that last CD was good......he'll be preforming on the VMA's tomorrow....i'm watching it to see him and a few others!! |
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i'm tempted to go into my favorite emcees but i've done that once, twice, or three times already on this board before... |
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Fantastic Damage is a bit of a wierd one...the production is good but El-P starts to annoy me with his invented grammer. I really like probably about half of the album. |
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how about a link then? |
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you didn't like "like water for chocolate"? i thought that album was dope. what about "one day it'll all make sense" - wasn't that for mca too? mos def is good ENOUGH? he's the best in the game... early wu-tang, why do white people (no offense) always say that? it kinda pisses me off that they like the comical shit but don't give them respect for the amazing lyrics and amazing ORIGINAL beats on the 2nd album. raekwon cuban linx album - overrated IMO. it may have helped kick off all the italian mobster stuff in hip-hop but it's not that interesting to listen to. |
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yeah heard a bit of dj cam - bit so so in my opinion, what i've heard (french connection & loaII) not all that consistent .. loa was a bit shit .. nice enough tho or something zeus: you like boards of canada? I think you'd love machine drum. not exactly bad ass all the way through tho ... |
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BoC is my FAV group of ALL time! yeah, ive heard about machine drum, def gotta check em out!, and telefon tel aviv! |
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Uhh, many people say the very same thiong about El-P: good production, shite MC-ing. I, for one like his "don't give a shit about riding the beats" thing. "Like water for chocolate" is quite awesome IMO, I haven't met anyone who disliked it so far. "Train of thought", too. Why did you not like that album. Tits: exactly: rhymes on Wu-Tang Forever are incredible and the production is quite brave too. By referring to us as white men, does that mean you are black??? Didn't think so. Also, the last wu-tang is fabtastic. |
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Machine drum sounds 10% like BoC and 90% like Prefuse 73. I likes him. |
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:) apparently dj-cam's dj kicks was pretty good - but haven't heard it so .. your sister wouldn't per chance have mad blunted jazz? just wondering what that sounds like - coz it gets rave reviews everywhere .. |
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First point "why do white people"...what made you think I am white? Second point Like Water For Chocolate I didn't like all that much. It wasn't bad just not my type of shit. Mos Def is good but I would class him as the best, just personal taste. As for the Wu-Tang, I was talking about production, and I still think the first album has the best production Rza has ever done. The second album was the worst pile of shit I ever spent money on. When I said about Cuban Linx I was referring to the original point of the topic which where heavy beats. I don't like ANY of the so called lyrics the Wu members try to spit. Possible exception one or two Genius tracks off Liquid Swords. The beats on that album though were fuckin class. |
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no, it was the french connection |
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Meho: too right .. but compared to some of the "bad-ass" hip hop, definetly got a lot of boc-ish type flavour in it or something? |
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no, i'm just making an observation. the black people i know appreciate wu-tang forever a lot more than the white people i know. kinda pisses me off, it makes me think "these whites" just think of hip-hop as a joke or something. |
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I typoed up there...I *wouldn't* class Mos Def as the best. |
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Zeus: ah .. that's cool .. not bad, definetly better than loa (from memory), my flat mate also has erm.. connection or something? not sure bout that. |
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what's not to like about the production on wu-tang forever? 36 chambers is clever but it's all samples. for wu-tang forever rza actually learned more advanced programming and sampling, played synths, and hired studio musicians. and it sounds amazing. |
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Apparently - Now You know was done at age 19!!! rezpekt |
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haha you cheaky fucker. I have listened to over 10 years worth of fucking hip hop so don't be telling me I don't know shit about it. Everyone has their own personal taste, and just because I don't have the same as you or "your boys" don't be trying to imply I don't know shit about it. If you are talking lyricists, I think Aesop Rock, Ras Kass, Chino XL and Eminem are all better than Mos Def. I think Black Thought from The Roots a better rapper than Mos Def as well. But as I said before, all about personal taste. |
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I kinda know what he's hinting at: Forever is just endless loops without any change ever. But I like it all the same, their flow is incredible on that album... Korben: Yeah, but this is why it's called "Click-hop" rather than hip-hop, eh? |
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I don't know what I liked about 36 Chambers...maybe it was the flaws in the production like midi tracks resetting halfway through tracks and stuff...by the time Forever came out I actually preferred the production 4th Disciple was doing for Killarmy. |
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Aesop rock is class, I'll admit it. However, Mos Def has clearer points and therefore should be easier to digest for newbies and the whole point of this thread was suggesting Zeus what to sample. |
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i don't feel like combing through old threads zeus so these are my favorite emcees, in no order mos def gift of gab (blackalicious) andre 3000 (outkast) saul williams j-live ghostface killah rza gza del tha funkee homosapien pharoahe monch black thought (the roots) common 2pac eminem nas el-p kool keith too $hort mc paul barman lyrics born lateef the truth speaker talib kweli canibus royce da 5'9" the last emperor anti-pop consortium (all 3 members) q-tip big boi (outkast) cex |
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kool g rap ed o.g. skillz |
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titsworth have you heard June by Copyright and RDJ2? |
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Meho: think the click is from the (cliche?) cut up vocals .. its the Pre-fuse in it. ? You got any of the Bip-hop stuff ? |
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thanks tits! |
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i like aesop rock but who knows what the fuck he's talking about half the time. he has a ways to go before he can tell a story like mos. as far as mos vs. em i don't see the comparison. could em toast mos in a freestyle battle? of course. whose songs are more intersting? mos def's songs for sure. |
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yes i've heard "june" |
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I knew I was forgetting something...Roots Manuva, Rodney P, Skinnyman, Blak Twang, Ricochet Klashnekoff. etc...get some UK hip hop!! |
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also mos def is a much better story teller than black thought. they both have great charisma but mos tops tariq in that as well. they're different styles though. |
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i like some roots manuva.. i guess my favorite song w/ him is on the new cinematic orchestra album. i don't really like much UK hip-hop though.. at least not yet. |
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Korben: wtf is bip-hop? Something you just made up or an "existing" subgenre? I have new Boom Bip's album if that helps. Tits: word up, about em vs Mos. |
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bip hop, bip bop, not quite sure how its phrased - i'll have a look around. its a label - and pretty much a sub-genre, heard it in a cd store here a while ago, sounded evil! I always thought it was BIT-hop, coz the beats sort of sounded bit-crushed .. um... Actually they got a series of compilations, and vol 4 was advertised on warprecords ... had a mira calix track on it also ?? I'll check it out. |
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Forever, overall, was pretty crap. RZA may have played the sytnhs and programmed the drums himself but it all sounds the same. Boom-tsh-boom-tsh and then some strings over the top. That said, Heaterz is amazing. The MCing was still great but I'm more a fan of music than vocals. |
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well, massiva attack, tricky (except some of his works) and what ive heard from roots manuva (2 songs) and some samples from anti pop, have all been the best rapping ive heard imo... i like the sound of thier voices better... its not all like mumbling |
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If you want RAW, simply buy Brooklyn Zoo by Ol' Dirty Bastard. You ain't gonna get much more raw than that. Also Wu-Tang, Return to the 36 Chambers. I also recommend Roots Manuva, a UK MC who's got a ragga flavour and loads of tunes. Quality. |
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wu-tang forever is dense and it has its own unique sound but it's not the same thing over and over again. this is one of my favorite albums so "ima rep till the death of it" (?). |
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Meho: try www.bip-hop.com |
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damn this thread exploded! |
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Forever was quite hypnotic to me: their flow, their cadence... The loops too, but the album was overall not funky, not at all, I'll admit that. Korben: Hmm, I will search the web for it... |
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it's a serious album, they had to sacrifice the funk. lyrically some of these songs give me goosebumps. eg: impossible, a better tomorrow. |
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Its all filler and no killer. Iron Flag and 36 Chambers are the shit! ODB's 'Ni**a Please' is great. That tune that samples TJ Hooker is crazy. Free ODB! |
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Big Baby Jesus is the TJ Hooker sample init? Funny track. I didn't like the album that much though. |
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OK, I agree. |
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The title track to Brooklyn Zoo is one of the finest, rawest hip-hop tunes ever produced. Along with the likes of Snakes and Damage coupled with ODB's comedic singing and obvious insanity, it's an absolute must! |
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Psycopathic Rydas- Dumpin (one of ICP's side projects) |
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yea nigga please is one of my favorite wu solo joints too! i still totally disagree w/ you on wu-tang forever tho, IMO that's their lyrical AND musical high point. |
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PS - Liquid Swords by the GZA is possibly the finest Wu-Tang related album ever. He is undoubtedly the most talented MC in Wu-Tang and this album continues to prove it track after track.... Go and buy it!!! |
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Was it the first Wu album you owned? |
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