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offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 17:50 [#00275152]
Points: 1649 Status: Regular



check out the sales figures message - read and weep..


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-19 17:51 [#00275154]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker



link please

im lazy


 

offline hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2002-06-19 17:52 [#00275155]
Points: 3377 Status: Regular



yes, a link.


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 17:56 [#00275162]
Points: 1649 Status: Regular



www.planet-mu.com my server doesn't show up the rest but
click on message board - message sales figures -


 

offline hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2002-06-19 17:59 [#00275173]
Points: 3377 Status: Regular



oh cripes, now i have to muck about the messageboard until i
find the topic.


 

offline hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2002-06-19 18:01 [#00275176]
Points: 3377 Status: Regular



i wonder how much warp brings in


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 18:06 [#00275183]
Points: 1649 Status: Regular



Author: Mike P
Date: 06-19-02 14:32

It's up to the artists, I don't want to publish exact sales
figures if they'd rather keep it secret.

But on average this year (last 12 months) cd albums have
sold 800 copies. Our best seller in last 12 months was The
Cosmic Forces Of Mu which sold 2217 copies worldwide. just
over 12 months ago the Slag Boom remixes cd did very well at
almost 3000 copies.

The average earnings of a Planet Mu artist (from sales
royalties, not their real jobs obviously) is £800 per album
($1190) which is the royalties on 1000 sales. But I usually
give them an advance of more than that.


 

offline hepburnenthorpe from sydney (Australia) on 2002-06-19 18:07 [#00275184]
Points: 1365 Status: Lurker



goes to show. all you lot who only down load, and never buy
albums really are fuckwits.


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 18:09 [#00275188]
Points: 4700 Status: Lurker | Followup to hepburnenthorpe: #00275184



yes but does not show what they *should* be on...for all we
know, they could have been £500 per album 3 years ago


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-06-19 18:10 [#00275190]
Points: 24578 Status: Lurker | Followup to hepburnenthorpe: #00275184



yeah i'm weeping for them, really i am


 

offline hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2002-06-19 18:11 [#00275192]
Points: 3377 Status: Regular



i think you have to understand that the music they're
putting out is not the most popular when compared to all the
mainstream, popular and chart music.


 

offline hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2002-06-19 18:12 [#00275194]
Points: 3377 Status: Regular



so obviously, it's not going to sell too well.


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 18:40 [#00275236]
Points: 1649 Status: Regular



you will when they stop releassing recods - i couldn't
survive on £800 for more than 2 and a half weeks in london
where i live - and it's not my fault my rent is cheap.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-06-19 18:42 [#00275238]
Points: 24578 Status: Lurker | Followup to astrid-gil-botn: #00275236



no i won't


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 18:46 [#00275244]
Points: 1649 Status: Regular



so you don't likw this music then ..
what are you doing here, howe are you going to magic good
music - interesting characters who make it .. good events -
great artwork ..progressive musical communities out of the
air ...
i bet your're quite young and your mum and dad pay for your
stuff..you don't seem like a very realistic person


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-06-19 18:48 [#00275248]
Points: 24578 Status: Lurker | Followup to astrid-gil-botn: #00275244



you know something? you were wrong on all accounts


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-06-19 19:03 [#00275282]
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So this is a dark age for electronic and Planet Mu, then.
How much were they selling BEFORE us MP3-rapists came
along?

(More, I'm sure, I'm asking an honest question, I have no
fucking clue)


 

offline hepburnenthorpe from sydney (Australia) on 2002-06-19 19:03 [#00275284]
Points: 1365 Status: Lurker



yeah £800 is about 1 months pay for me. fucked if i would
like to spend a year working twords a months pay.

i know there not in it for the money, but there not there to
be ripped off either.


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-06-19 19:06 [#00275288]
Points: 7669 Status: Regular



They should make music more people will like.


 

offline hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2002-06-19 19:07 [#00275291]
Points: 3377 Status: Regular



the only reason i want to get good at music, writings, and
illustrations is just so i dont have to work as hard. i dont
see myself making millions from music alone.


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-06-19 19:09 [#00275297]
Points: 7669 Status: Regular



Now is the time to sell out. There should be no critism for
artists who in the current climate.


 

offline hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2002-06-19 19:10 [#00275298]
Points: 3377 Status: Regular



there is nothing wrong with wanting more money.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-06-19 19:11 [#00275300]
Points: 24578 Status: Lurker | Followup to 010101: #00275297



yeah - who needs integrity anyways? we're all doomed to a
consumer hell, so we might as well all join in

"always coca cola"


 

offline hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2002-06-19 19:12 [#00275301]
Points: 3377 Status: Regular



well, as long as the music stays the same pretty much.
there's a lot of mainstream artists who have completely
changed an image or the sound and i know that it wasn't an
evolution of music, but an appeasement for culture to make a
buck.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 19:15 [#00275303]
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£800 per 1000....that 80p per CD...

Now, I know that's a pretty standard rate but surely there's
a different way to play the game so that artists get more
than >10% per CD...

Shops, I guess, buy from Mu at 50% of retail price so I'm
suprised Mike P doesn't make Mu just a Mail Order
business....at least they'd be able to keep more of the cash
for the artist even if they didn't sell as many....probably
a lot less headaches anyway...

Or bite the bullet and start releasing MP3 albums that can
be downloaded on a track basis...maybe some sort of
subscription model or micro-payments would work...

Physical media is a dead horse nowadays and moaning about it
isn't gonna sort this problem out...


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-06-19 19:17 [#00275305]
Points: 3787 Status: Regular



from the same thread at planet-mu.com:

Author: Phobeus
Date: 06-19-02 17:34

aphextwin.nu is responsible for a large amount of MP3
piracy, they need to be sorted out


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-06-19 19:18 [#00275308]
Points: 24578 Status: Lurker | Followup to hevquip: #00275301



that's why i'm weeping, hevquip


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-06-19 19:19 [#00275310]
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''aphextwin.nu is responsible for a large amount of MP3
piracy, they need to be sorted out ''

What the FUCK?!?!?!

I'd be a fucking MP3 pirate regardless of this site, I was
before, and I always will be.

Atrrrr, mateys!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-06-19 19:19 [#00275311]
Points: 24578 Status: Lurker | Followup to surrounded: #00275305



how can you blame this site? it doesn't host any illegal
mp3s


 

offline urb from Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-06-19 19:21 [#00275315]
Points: 568 Status: Regular | Followup to jand: #00275303



I just did my share and bought Spectrum, Sketches and Are
You An Axolotl..

A Planet Mu mail order service would be popular with me.
Guess it's costly to run though.

Why can't Warpmart stock more Planet Mu?


 

offline hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2002-06-19 19:21 [#00275316]
Points: 3377 Status: Regular



perhaps it was a joke or perhaps they believe that this site
provides info as to where one can go to pirate.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 19:26 [#00275324]
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that's a bit out of order to blame .nu ... where did we get
that reputation from?...

maybe it's windup but I'm gonna pop across and see where
that's coming from...


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-06-19 19:27 [#00275325]
Points: 7669 Status: Regular



My Grandmother could find mp3's. I think that you will have
to make a value judgement on the ethics of downloading them.
I only use them for demoing purposes as I like to have the
original.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-06-19 19:31 [#00275327]
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If I had more money (which I don't), I might buy electronic
albums.

In the future, I may... and if not for MP3s, there would be
NO chance that I'd ever buy an electronic album... well, not
MUCH of a chance. I would like to have the CDs, but I'm not
going to spend money on THEM when I've got more important
things to think about, and when I can hear them on MP3
anyway.

If it wasn't for this site, I wouldn't have blown 50 bucks
on Drukqs... they wouldn't have got not one red cent from
me.



 

offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-06-19 19:31 [#00275328]
Points: 10507 Status: Webmaster | Followup to surrounded: #00275305 | Show recordbag



Ah, most likely one of my enemies... the user has only
posted one single message which seconds that even more.

schmee should e-mail me the ip#.

hillarious!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-06-19 19:34 [#00275335]
Points: 24578 Status: Lurker | Followup to Phobiazero: #00275328



funny as long as no-one there buys it! no point in this
place having a nasty and ill-deserved reputation! :(


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 19:37 [#00275339]
Points: 4700 Status: Lurker | Followup to marlowe: #00275335



marlowe, wall st

"greed is good"


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-06-19 19:47 [#00275353]
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Seems ALL other messageboards bash this one.

I smell jealousy. We have Baron Von Picklefoot and THEY
don't.


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 19:48 [#00275357]
Points: 4700 Status: Lurker



and a semi-resident troll!


 

offline dave from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-06-19 19:49 [#00275358]
Points: 1135 Status: Regular



messageboards shmessageboards


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 19:50 [#00275362]
Points: 1649 Status: Regular



he's posted there before loads - but then again marlowe -
who needs enemies with friends like you?


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-06-19 19:50 [#00275365]
Points: 24578 Status: Lurker | Followup to B3n: #00275339



yes but michael douglas got fucked at the end!!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-06-19 19:51 [#00275368]
Points: 24578 Status: Lurker | Followup to astrid-gil-botn: #00275362



that's very true astrid - only an insecure wanker would want
a sycophant as a friend


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 19:52 [#00275370]
Points: 4700 Status: Lurker | Followup to astrid-gil-botn: #00275362



why he got 1 point then?


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 19:52 [#00275371]
Points: 4700 Status: Lurker | Followup to marlowe: #00275365



yeah but he got catherine zeta jones!

...oh i'm confusing film and reality again!


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 19:53 [#00275373]
Points: 1649 Status: Regular



a curious misreading..


 

offline dave from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-06-19 19:53 [#00275374]
Points: 1135 Status: Regular



these points are responcible for all the spam in
messageboards


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 19:55 [#00275379]
Points: 1649 Status: Regular



crikey this messageboard has got really "school debatinf
society" in the last few days quite interesting but pretty
heavy going :)


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-06-19 19:55 [#00275380]
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I don't think the points have anything to do with it. People
either have something worthwhile to say, or they don't.
Nothhing would change without points.

*waxes and shines my sparkly point total


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 19:55 [#00275381]
Points: 4700 Status: Lurker | Followup to dave: #00275374



I don't think so, for some people that's be a LOT of spam


 


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