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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-05-01 08:04 [#00202215]
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is it still THE big label in idm-ish music? or has another label taken over the role warp once had? if so, which label would you consider being dominant at the moment?
i think warp is still on top, but they seem to be falling a little...
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2002-05-01 08:07 [#00202218]
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i still think warp is no1... i dunno... does it matter tho really? the more GOOD Idm labels, the better! =)
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map
from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-01 09:54 [#00202286]
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IDM-ish
hmm, maybe the dominators and owners of the pioneers in electronic music...
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-01 10:10 [#00202296]
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Schematic, Planet-µ and Warp still top them all.
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spasmsixtynine
from leicester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-01 11:24 [#00202359]
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i can't name one bad record released on warp so yeah i reckon they rule!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-01 11:37 [#00202370]
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Oh yeah. The new ATP? ROCKS. I didn't like their ep at all... but this new cd rocks my world...
"That is my cd. I sampled statid from my Victrola and processed the sounds. It is called Tronman Stigmata."
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-01 11:48 [#00202376]
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statid = static
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spasmsixtynine
from leicester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-01 13:19 [#00202453]
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ATP? i know you mean APC
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-01 14:05 [#00202476]
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Warp have released some cracking albums the past few months!
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-05-01 14:11 [#00202479]
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probably.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-01 14:19 [#00202485]
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peacestar (re)cords are destined to take over the world!!!
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-01 14:21 [#00202488]
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Warp is seriously losing power IMHO
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HyTT
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-01 14:42 [#00202496]
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I think less and less of Warp Records these days.
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2002-05-01 15:28 [#00202521]
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Warp are dominant, mainly because of their established acts.
Acts AFX, []pusher and of course Autechre, but other than those three I listen to nothing on Warp.
The other artists that have come after BoC, Prefuse73 etc. etc. do nothing for me. So I look elsewhere.
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Phatbert 000
from Augsburg (Germany) on 2002-05-01 15:51 [#00202534]
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I've noticed that the majority of fans of certain Warp artists seem really disappointed with the latest offers:
Aphex Twin - Drukqs (50/50) Squarepusher - Go Plastic (almost everyone thinks it's crap, apart from Track 1 of course)
Autechre - Confield (too weird say the fans) Two Lone Swordsmen - Tiny Reminders (ok, I only know one person, one of my mates, but he's got almost all of TLS's output and he hates Tiny Reminders, Stay Down is his favourite)
It seems only BOC have met the expectations of most of their fans with Geogaddi.
And when the fuck is this coming out???
02.02.01 (Nightmares On Wax)
IN THE STUDIO
After putting a funky mix together for the DJ kicks series last year, George is now working on tracks for a new LP which will be out this year.
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digital messiah
on 2002-05-01 16:13 [#00202545]
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warp is not that strong anymore,latest star-artist albums are crap(square,afx)...
i think mille plateaux imperia is no1 at the moment..
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-05-01 16:20 [#00202554]
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warp is good, i've been hearing lots about planet-µ lately.
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-01 16:26 [#00202563]
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Drukqs - you are right there go plastic - i love it and a lot of people here and that i know love it
Confield - Takes a bit of listening really. But very rewarding after a while.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2002-05-01 19:20 [#00202739]
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haven't heard any artists on rephlex besides the obvious so i would think they are pretty fucking importante.
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joakim
from Norway on 2002-05-01 19:28 [#00202743]
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i still think that warp is the daddy when it comes to "idm" music. i mean, they've got the most important artists in this genre under their wing (aphex, autechre, squarepusher), and their latest signings (chris clark, prefuse73, brothomstates) are really ace. especially clark and prefuse are brilliant.
i also feel that planet-mu and rephlex are closing the "gap" though. planet-mu with some awesome output lately (also brilliant stuff around the corner) from nautilis, venetian snares, hellfish etc. rephlex is also closing in on warp. i mean, with artists like ovuca, bogdan raczynski, global goon and the like in their rooster, it would be wrong if they weren't way up there.
i think these three are the biggest, leading labels in current electronica.
really interesting smaller labels are appearing though, with neo ouija, m3rck, sonig are doing great stuff, as is mego. city centre offices and defocus are also producing quality electronica.
it's exciting times for the electronica fetishist :)
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mofo
from glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-01 19:33 [#00202748]
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i dont know . i'll wait till aftr the magic bus tour 2 make up my mind . thay're comming my way on the 31st of may. plaid are head lining.
deffinatly BoC have put out the best albums in while for them. if nothing elce thats strong enough for me. they are by for the best , and most interesting band arround now.
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enthy
from Ireland on 2002-05-01 21:15 [#00202809]
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BoC hmm i got that music has the ... album and it good but i hav to listen more really to hav an actual opinion!
As for drukqs,i liked it twas v.emotional which i like,from eerie to sweet and thought provoking to mental.Go Plastic rules imho u need to listen to it alot v.inovative ideas i.e. using clicks for beats and making u consentrate on low volume sounds then frightening the shite out of u with explosion type thingys etc
Autechre i hav yet 2 discover along with v.snares who i got a foo mp3s and is quite gud.
Im most looking forward to some afx,ceephax and []pusher albums offa rephlex which shud rule the roost im guessing
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2002-05-01 21:35 [#00202820]
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Wow, that's not right. No one mentioned Plaid. Tis a shame they get overshadowed by afx, [], and ae. And TLS are very good.
Warp IMO is the dominiant one.
Also, there's other labels out their with quality, Worm Interface is one of them.
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-05-02 01:25 [#00202992]
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i wouldn't say so. there are so many other labels producing stuff every week
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hexagonaldope
on 2002-05-02 01:29 [#00202994]
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rephlex will dominate in the future
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-05-02 01:40 [#00203004]
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am I the only person who likes Brothomstates? I seriously think that guy is quite good...
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jingle
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-02 04:20 [#00203064]
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warp is still a heavy-weight but it ain't the champ: planet mu seems to have more consistantly good signings/ releases than warp which is hit+miss lately. rephlex is being rephlex, bubbling under all the time being popular but rarely influential. certificate 18 is meant to be good (pilote is on his way up) but i think individual artists now forge the way forward cos the scene has too many labels that release 90% dross. in london i think shops are becoming more powerful than labels cos they seem to pull in low-profile gems you'd never here of anywhere else (ambient soho R.I.P. and rough trade)
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-05-02 07:29 [#00203138]
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well planet-mu releases a whole lot more material than warp lately, that's for sure. warp seems to be playing it safe. i think they will release something completely new and refreshing by the end of the year. they really should.
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Phatbert 000
from Augsburg (Germany) on 2002-05-02 12:07 [#00203292]
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yeah planet-mu's had loads of releases recently, and they're all very good.
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Krendo
from Leicester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-02 13:59 [#00203343]
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A few years back Warp was easily the best electronic label, but the last few things I have bought on Warp records have been really very average: Brothomstates' 'Claro' is very wishy-washy; 'Drukqs' is good, but a hard album to listen through; and Richard Devine's album, whatever it was called, was a heap of shit. BoC's new release is great, but I think that Warp is probably nearing the limit of its uselfulness to music; all that is needed to destroy it is a decent, credible rival.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2002-05-02 14:07 [#00203344]
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whos on planet mu then? id have to check this label out
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Narkotic
from United States on 2002-05-02 14:46 [#00203360]
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brothomstates is great. I find myself listening to more of the US label releasese now, www.m3rck.net and www.imputor.com .. this stuff is great. Dntel, Diagram of surban chaos, fizzarum, proswell, etc etc
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-02 14:50 [#00203362]
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Has anyone got anything on City Centre Offices, excluding Arovane?
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-05-02 21:31 [#00203851]
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i dont know who's on that label. apart from arovane, i dont know.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-02 21:41 [#00203864]
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come on, you got Aphex Twin, Autechre, Squarepusher, Boards of Canada, Plaid, etc, etc... so yes, I personally think they are... right now anyways...
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-02 21:51 [#00203877]
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I actually think Warp are more dominant than they were 5 years ago, they are breaking (slowly) into more mass market appeal, getting into adverts etc. Their music is IMO more accessible and they are tapping into this resource. Whether I like this or not is a different matter. I mean, be serious, there is NO WAY planet-mu or rephlex are in the same league as Warp, even if they are getting bigger. These labels don't release mainstream music, I think Warp has far more commercial appeal and can only see bigger things. Certificate 18 is bound to do well, Pilote has very commercially appealing music, a bit like Zero 7 or someone...you've heard it lots in ads, you'll hear it EVERYWHERE! =)
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-05-02 21:55 [#00203882]
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i think youre right. warp does have a more commercial appeal. but i cant compare the today warp to the 5 years ago warp, because i wasnt into warp-ish music back then.
but is that a good thing?
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-02 22:01 [#00203889]
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hehe, notice the *think* =) I wasn't into Warp 5 years ago, but for a label to get far more listeners, to a certain extent I reckon its just as much commerical appeal as quality material
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-02 22:16 [#00203903]
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check out music aus strom, funkstorung's label. appetite for disctruction, crunch's 1, fakesch's marion are some of my FAVORITE releases. schematic is good too. warp has aphex and autechre so of course I love them too.
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zetre
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-02 23:09 [#00203929]
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Warp is still really good, they´re just getting a bit old I guess. They´re playing a bit safe. Planet-Mu has been really exiting lately, bringing back the ravespirit into electronica. A good cure for all the Ae-clones.. Otherwise I´d say that the whole Force Inc/Mille Plateaux-empire has got a really strong hold of things when it comes to the more serious, chin-stroking electronica.
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plugexpert
from Nijmegen (Netherlands, The) on 2002-05-02 23:12 [#00203930]
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who is WARP?
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zetre
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-02 23:33 [#00203938]
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Yo mama!
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plugexpert
from Nijmegen (Netherlands, The) on 2002-05-02 23:35 [#00203939]
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Really?
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bitch hog
on 2002-05-03 01:39 [#00204005]
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PHATBERT, why didnt your mother strangle you at birth you fucking chimp!
Everyone hates Go Plastic AND Tiny reminders, jesus, what a twat!
i justknow you are an americanCUNT, i can smell it!
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-03 01:51 [#00204011]
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what's a label?
who likes artists!?
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2002-05-03 01:51 [#00204012]
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Dissapointed with Go Plastic except for track 1? Are you out of your fucking mind? Go Plastic is one of my favorite SP albums, as well as a lot of other people here.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-03 01:56 [#00204014]
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go plastic is a great album. i like red hot car, but it's my least favorite on the album.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-03 03:20 [#00204069]
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there's still plenty of life left in ole Warp..I mean in the past two yware they put out..kinda new acts like Richard Devine, Jamie Lidell, Chris Clark, Prefuse73..all pretty decent in my book..and whoever is putting down Tiny Reminders needs a serious arse kicking..it's a brilliant album..glitch techno anyone?...
but yeah the competition is catching up..about half my IDM colllection is coming from Rephlex...and watchout for nova mute...
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Zen Storm
from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-05-03 03:38 [#00204071]
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i dominate
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Ubik
from United States on 2002-05-03 03:56 [#00204073]
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the real question is... is so-called "IDM" getting mature, its not like the early 90s anymore? people complain about old skool stuff being unoriginal, but then complain about other stuff being "too arty"... so what do people want? alot of Reflex is based on classic house stuff (which people complain is lame, RDJ is laughing at you guys), and then there is some scholarly stuff which hasnt seem to make much of an impact... i dunno, its a lot easier said than done to say to Warp to just go out and get the next Aphex and Squarepusher... its not the same virgin musical territory of a decade ago... most people are going to complain anyway because people tend to be assholes, and Warp is an large target... at least for the past year, Warp has released some very interesting records, but their artist base is aging... and "IDM" has largely moved far away from most dancefloors...
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