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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2026-10-03 11:19 [#02647691]
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I don’t think your model of human nature is correct and you’re conflating a lot of different things, but mainly I’m a little confused as to what it is you’re afraid of. What is there to redistribute? Are you a business owner or a landlord? Or is it a “they’ll come for the white males” bit?
You’re maybe describing something like the Cultural revolution in 60s China, which was orchestrated by Mao as a power play, and was one of the most stupid and evil times in human history. I don’t want that.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2026-10-03 11:28 [#02647692]
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I mean, sadly we don’t really get to decide. Capitalism is unsustainable and perpetually in crisis, which demands answers. One of these answers is fascism, as we’ve seen in the 30s and we see again today. We would like to not have fascism and keep atrocities to a minimum. The idea is not to whip up people into a frenzy, but to have a clear direction in moments of crisis, and give people a better choice than death or hitler, so to speak.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2026-10-03 11:45 [#02647694]
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Also I mean re worker ownership, cooperatives already exist? They’re not exactly fonts of violence. Like sure they’re still operating in a capitalist system so it’s still mostly alienated work but like. It’s not a very esoteric idea.
I think capitalism could not implausibly erode away through systematic worker ownership and no violence worse than strikes and expropriation. What is to fear is a violent response from the capitalist class. I’m not a seer and you can’t really predict or control mass movements, but outright war could be avoidable. It’s certainly not an end goal in itself.
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Tony Danza
from Steamy Marmaris on 2026-10-03 12:33 [#02647695]
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Italian and German fascism were capitalism's reaction against socialism - against socialist workers in their own countries as well as the Soviets. Hitler's main stated purpose was to put down the bolsheviks in the east, to do to the east what the Americans had done to their west. That's why Western Europe and England refused to make an alliance with Stalin against Hitler. Many of those countries had friendly relations or non aggression pacts with Hitler until the last minute.
It's not an accident that the famous poem by Martin Niemoller begins "First, they came for the communists…"
We could also talk about how the genesis of capitalism is inextricably tied to the brutal deaths and exploitation of millions in the Americas, Africa and Asia but we'll leave that for another time.
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Tony Danza
from Steamy Marmaris on 2026-10-03 13:02 [#02647696]
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Bro I would laugh so hard if the hordes of blue haired nose ringed ugly fat feminists came for your Xbox and your dishwasher and your Nikes but it ain't going to happen. What gets nationalized in places like China is shit like banking, energy, telecom, mining, basic metal production, rail, etc. and you don't have banks or mines or trains in your house, ok?
And again, regarding human nature, people don't fight over or steal what's abundant. No one breaks into your house to steal gallons of water from your faucets. Communism means making everything that abundant. You never did read that Deng Xiaoping speech I linked you to, did you?
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2026-10-03 13:20 [#02647697]
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Chinese asset there, not making a very convincing case from the one room his estranged wife lets him use.
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Tony Danza
from Steamy Marmaris on 2026-10-03 14:14 [#02647698]
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Roger hands me the driver, lies down in front of me, clamps a tee in his mouth, places a golf ball on the tee, and waits patiently. But I'm sorry, I'm too *nice*.
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2026-10-03 14:21 [#02647699]
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All taking place in the one room his estranged wife lets him use. And you wonder why?
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mermaidman
on 2026-10-03 14:35 [#02647700]
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it's like when you enter a cheat code in a videogame (*points at wolfslice* wolf knows what i'm talking about) that gives you unlimited money, only this time it's unlimited energy and resources
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Tony Danza
from Steamy Marmaris on 2026-10-03 14:44 [#02647701]
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Roger, last night as you crawled straight up your own divorced alcoholic ass clutching an empty bottle, I was sitting on my couch with my wife watching Helen Mirren in The Tempest.
Anything else I can clear up for you before you catch another glimpse of your reflection and mistake it for me?
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Tony Danza
from Steamy Marmaris on 2026-10-03 14:45 [#02647702]
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pretty much yeah
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2026-10-03 14:50 [#02647703]
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Apart from it not being a remotely accurate depiction of something you know nothing about, even so I'd prefer that over sitting with you and your horrific wife (poor woman, she is a woman I take it) watching a Helen Mirren film. Unless it was The Long Good Friday, in which case go for it.
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Tony Danza
from Steamy Marmaris on 2026-10-03 15:04 [#02647704]
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Roger Wilco transvestigating my wife! Every time I think this thread has peaked it hits a new peak. Roger she's a Black Muslim man and I make her wear Hijab. Do you have any other obsessions you'd like to add?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2026-10-03 17:08 [#02647705]
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I felt sorrow for that woman in the past too, but I haven't verbalized
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2026-10-03 18:33 [#02647708]
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Obsessed with you or your ghastly, captured wife? Nigga, please. You are a figure of fun. And not that much fun at that.
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Tony Danza
from Steamy Marmaris on 2026-10-03 18:46 [#02647709]
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No I mean your usual spreadsheet of obsessions like gays, trans, blacks, muslims, immigrants, celebs you disagree with, etc. - is there a note we didn't hit yet?
And you are the one who dragged wives into it, Dim.
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2026-10-03 19:20 [#02647710]
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You know how you're shadow banned on family Facebook groups because of exactly this strange, unsettling behaviour? That said you probably don't.
Who is this "we" you refer to? Last time I checked nobody likes you.
Nobody.
Because if I ever talk to anyone off of here they say you're an insufferable cunt. I might be wrong.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2026-10-03 19:56 [#02647711]
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that's thad, he always says 'we' too and he's talking about fleetmouse, they talk about each other so they can speak plural, with the add of their new american amenmodem twink maybe
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2026-10-03 22:30 [#02647715]
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So much gay
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2026-10-03 23:02 [#02647716]
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If you posts more than 3 times in this thread Yourea gay
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2026-10-03 23:58 [#02647717]
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Three3
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2026-10-04 00:06 [#02647718]
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Thad tell us about the gayest sexual experience in your life
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2026-10-04 02:15 [#02647720]
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I touched your P3ni5
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2026-10-04 02:17 [#02647721]
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I mean : Carol and I almost thought about letting another guy when we were zoomed on gummies
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2026-10-04 08:53 [#02647725]
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Kinky!!
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mermaidman
on 2026-10-04 10:32 [#02647726]
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cuck thad
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Tony Danza
from Steamy Marmaris on 2026-10-04 13:28 [#02647727]
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Roger you have a go at my wife for no good reason so I give you a bit of stick and now you're crying waaaaaaah Tony's mean, this isn't a safe space like Facebook. Fine, I'll stop, but I think you owe me an apology.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2026-10-04 22:43 [#02647729]
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but ur the one seething so hard at the world that u need to pretend communism exists on the internet all day. look i know u still hate me probably for that one time i said severance was bad. get over it! i think u should at least show ur face at the spook thread or are u too scared
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2026-10-04 22:53 [#02647730]
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communism btfo in this thread darius are you sure wanna keep associating yourself with this kind of thing?
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2026-10-05 07:48 [#02647732]
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yeah it’s fine, i thought the walkenxturturro BL was cute
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2026-10-05 20:20 [#02647744]
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Yeah show your face coward
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2026-10-05 20:57 [#02647745]
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Genuine question is dont really know the answer to: is there a substantial amount of secular type people of Middle Eastern descent chilling in Israel? If so , are they welcomed? Or is it just wall to wall jew? Obviously hard line Muslims wont really gel
Tony no I never read Deng. But i did watch the doc you linked focused on the man and concluded his success was via a switch to capitalism (and unregulated type that uses child labor at that). Communism didnt do much for the people except starve them and delete the arts, as iy always does every time. And the vestiges of Communism are why Winnie the pooh is a permanent leader now and censorship is prevalent. China blows dude. Id like to visit someday tho, hopefully AI wont catch this post.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2026-10-05 23:30 [#02647747]
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yes of course, most people in israel are middle eastern, and 21% of the population is non-jewish arabs (“some identifying as Palestinian, and including Druze, Circassians, all other Muslims, Christian Arabs, Armenians (which Israel considers "Arab")” according to wikipedia)
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2026-10-05 23:32 [#02647748]
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well done wolfslice for correctly identifying china as disgustingly capitalist by the way, you’re better at this than fleets lol
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2026-10-06 11:17 [#02647750]
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The BBC article, which was on their home page, How the bare nails trend became a class issue has now gone. Another example of the crank Far Left realising they may have played their hand too early? Or maybe a Far Right influencer put thoughts into an Editor's mind?
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2026-10-06 11:22 [#02647751]
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I owe you fuck you sanctimonious little prick. Anything you throw at me are things I have admitted to. You've not found something out, there's no "gotcha". I have no idea about your actual wife apart from, unless you are wildly different than you are on here, then she's as insufferable as you are (most likely) or mentally ill.
"crying waaaaaaah Tony's mean"... you self-important chode, as if... you are IRRITATING and PREDICTABLE. You wish you were mean...
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2026-10-06 12:08 [#02647752]
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How invested are you in the bare nail issue?
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2026-10-06 12:16 [#02647753]
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Also Dan, I’m sure you think of yourself as a master satirist, but the insistence you show in bringing up culture war shit that no one cares about, it just makes you look addicted to petty grievances. Are you this angry at clouds in real life? It can’t be good for you.
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2026-10-06 14:35 [#02647754]
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There's a lot of people on the streets of France currently, heavily invested in this Culture War shit that you'd suggest everyone was sang-froid about, or have I missed something? Is it just about conditions in schools?
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Tony Danza
from Steamy Marmaris on 2026-10-06 15:47 [#02647755]
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Very well. I will be the bigger man and apologize to YOU. I'm sorry I swatted you with a rolled up newspaper for running your bitch mouth.
Hug it out?
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2026-10-06 15:52 [#02647756]
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I will hug it out if you solemnly promise not to throw things back at me that I have said myself. If there is anything I carry away from here, and there is, I assure you, very little, it is that that I find unconscionable.
As well as using my name, like that French sex pest just did.
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Tony Danza
from Steamy Marmaris on 2026-10-06 16:04 [#02647757]
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OK from now on let's not get personal.
I will now clutch you to my ample bosom as Meat Loaf did to Ed Norton in Fight Club.
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2026-10-06 16:16 [#02647758]
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Good, we're all bum chums again.
So what, and hold your nose as this is an article on Unherd (shut up) (Rioters could hand Le Pen the presidency), do we think about the riots in France? I think the Left is "playing with fire" when it courts the Muslim vote and racial grievance, thinking those people will come round to some folksy Marxist ideas. I don't think those people are on the same "trajectory" as you are. I think the lesson of Iran 1979 is a stark reminder of that. I apologise to Julian who thinks these are fringe concerns of no import to anybody.
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mermaidman
on 2026-10-06 17:19 [#02647760]
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now it's juju and ampi's turn to apologize to me IMHO
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2026-10-06 19:39 [#02647761]
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Yes, it is about conditions in schools you race-obsessed dum-dum.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2026-10-06 19:40 [#02647762]
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what have i done i think you're all right
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mermaidman
on 2026-10-06 19:46 [#02647763]
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you bullied me. you told everyone that i want to french dave chappelle
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2026-10-06 21:54 [#02647765]
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i don't judge!
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2026-10-06 21:56 [#02647766]
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How do you feel about Jordan Bardella?
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2026-10-06 23:31 [#02647768]
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please continue to make silly remarks about fleetmouse wife while he pretends its 'too personal' even tho no one knows his wife and comments about her are as meaningful as saying 'ya mums got crabs'. then watch him do that thing where he pretends hes the manly one in control of his feelings even tho hes such a frothing vagina about literally everything. buddy cant even show in the spooky thread and face me so ill go ahead and insult him until then.
fleetmouse your wife has a fanny that smells of wet bread and EVERYBODY says so
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