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@wolfy without annoying or inconveniencing people, nothing will change. Rosa Parks was hella annoying, not just wanting to sit in the front of the bus (i saw this article, i still want to read, that explains she was much more of a radical than much of us know, so that wasn't just that 'lady from the bus') big lol @ Tony. and i also appreciate wolfy's input Roger: you're now bringing this back to Islam. but you were talking about a whole continent and a country full of people overrunning the 'liberal West' (Germany). this overrunning is typical fascist imagery, dehumanizing people to an elemental force some Muslims are politically active in less peaceful ways. for me, as someone that's against any form of imperialism, i have to point out that that's a reaction to Western imperialism: a geopolitical force that people in the West ignore way too much, because it's 'just how things are' but what’s more important to me, here, is that Muslim are just good people, wanting to live their best lives. just like anyone. also this isn’t just about Islam, because you were also saying stuff about trans people in this other thread. in the process pretty much directly attacking a trans woman on this very board. you can only be your own judge of the situation, but i wonder whether you’re projecting general discontent on politics. which is fine, i guess i do that as well. but you're also projecting on whole groups of people and specific persons, which is not fine peace |
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down with tankies, protect Gamers |
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I can practically guarantee no one from the "equity over equality" camp will be remembered anywhere near as fondly as Rosa Parks, lol. You're not actually fighting for the same thing. It's funny because it's only a matter of time before some little old white lady sits down in the front of a bus and is berated by some blue haired lunatic for violating an "ethno-safe space---" just because the color of her skin is wrong. It's insane how regressive the ideology is at the fringe ends. |
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All I said was I thought Sean could have a wider taste in music, which I thought was hilarious. Probably touched a nerve though. Food for thought... |
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I agree having a go at an individual is wrong and something I regret. I don't believe Islamic, Arab expansionism is some noble cause to right the wrongs of Western imperialism. And I'm sorry if that upsets anybody. |
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I was joking you fascist! Call me privileged without knowing a thing about my life. Call me the problem, call me liberal all you want. Turns out you judge way too much for me to even accept this idea that you’re a “good guy”. Possibly you’re a bit dim, I dunno. But judge someone else please. You have no idea what my life is like. And yes I do like Tolstoys idea of non resistance to evil. Which in todays lovely speech apparently means privileged liberal. You lose me every time you start attacking like a drooling guard dog. I disagree with Wilco. Yet he’s my friend, still. Because I can have actual conversations with him, without being linked fucking videos. When I said he was alone here with his thinking, I didn’t mean he was the victim. Take a breath, this is not an alt right wing board. If it was I wouldn’t be here. |
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Roger Wilco: I know you better than this. The trolling was fun but deep down you’re just scared and full of angst. Not hate. Don’t be like that… I don’t want to and maybe I’m in denial, but I don’t want to see you now as a wanker alt right Sam Hyde type cunt. |
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I don't think I'm scared. I think I'm irritated more than anything. I am full of angst, this is correct. I haven't read or watched anything by Sam Hyde, or any of his ilk for years. I even got bored with Jordan Peterson but I like his talks on the bible. And you know as well as I that in the Real World I have done far more to advance Afro Consciousness than the average schmoo. |
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what do you reckon the median IQ on this messageboard is |
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we've got to assume it's quite high right, the demographics are undiluted |
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I was just thinking 'How can i be more racist today to make the world a better place?' Now, i might have to reconsider my plans...but i have to think about this first. |
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You know, it occurs to me that Tucker Carlson is like a modern day Harriet Tubman, freeing White men enslaved by Wokeness. |
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first someone like MLK gets killed, then he gets to be a hero (while he was vilified when he was alive), but all the rough edges are scraped off. this is the way the liberale status quo co-opts @russeldust's 'we can still be friends' makes me think of (i don't know the original creator). unfortunately russel and wolfy don't really get where i'm coming from. like, this isn't for the glorification of myself. i genuinely get upset by some of the stuff i'm reading on this board. it does indeed echo right wing talking points. this talking of 'woke' is that (referring to wolfy here), for instance. well and some of the stuff Roger is saying goes even further right. maybe ironic, but that's in fact alt-right playbook ('the alt-right playbook' is a splendid series on youtube, btw) @Roger thank you for the genuine thoughts. |
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my mom regularly calls me to remind me to close the toilet lid so the cat doesn't jump in and drown. this is how I feel about big and youtube. close the lid before you jump in and drown, big! |
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i wonder what it means when people have an easier time getting along with racists than with people who have a problem with racism. like, instead of the usual bad faith kneejerks, i would really like it if you could think on it for a moment, use some empathy and wonder what's going on beyond personal grievances. i'm not being passive-agressive or anything, this is a genuine request. i don't know how else to express myself. anyways, hate speech is illegal in sweden, so the racists might want to cool it a bit if they don't want phoby to pull the plug on his criminal website. i don't particularly care either way. |
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you fucking weasel |
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“down with tankies, protect Gamers” Do you guys and gals still Rephlex? |
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I assume, which one must never do, that when you talk of Racists you mean White Racists. |
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yeah what about the poor whites that were oppressed for hundreds of years? |
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what about the colonized and invaded white countries? |
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well, yes, because i don't use tired old racist talking points, but if you have something to say in earnest on the subject i'm all ears |
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well said lol @mermaidman. it's never not funny to turn it around, to me (but that's a privilege, i wasn't negatively affected by colonialism, on the contrary) yes, white racists, Roger. that is: in the context of the West, in which we are here. this is where i'm going on a youtube tangent, for Tony's pleasure: a video by the guy. and 's his feminist reading of Mad Max: Fury Road, if you want to go for something lighter instead. (it's all very good) |
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The west is full of colored racists you fucking tit |
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Its all about rich and poor, racism |
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In every country you go But big's never been a pariah so he doesnt know |
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Never been or ever seen |
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that's right |
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where did i say colored racists don't exist? there are white supremacist people of color and people of color can be racist towards other people of color ('colorism'). the racism causing by far the most harm, however is white racism, because it's shapes the whole of western society. enter (crt). crt and are two scientific ways of studying racism, that can help us fight and eventually get rid of it. they show racism has real, material consequences for people. in other words: no, rich and poor isn't the only divide. there's several ways in which people can and are disadvantaged (there's sexism, homo- trans etc phobia, ableism etc) and these ways all need to be fought at the same time . if you don't do that, you'll end up a class reductionist Tony Danza |
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Class reductionist is a phrase people use when they don't want anyone to upset the apple cart. Center and validate my antiracism please, but keep that surplus value flowing from the global south (those people are homophobic as hell anyways) |
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(english subtitles give a good enough of an impression) |
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"Critical race theory emerged out of postmodernist thought, which tends to be skeptical of the idea of universal values, objective knowledge, individual merit, Enlightenment rationalism, and liberalism—tenets that conservatives tend to hold dear." from the linked crt article. how can one not applaud this? and see how hate is intersectional, too (so progressives have to be intersectional in their fight), they hate antiracism as well as communism: "The charge that schools are indoctrinating students in a harmful theory or political mindset is a longstanding one, historians note. CRT appears to be the latest salvo in this ongoing debate. "In the early and mid-20th century, the concern was about socialism or Marxism. The conservative American Legion, beginning in the 1930s, sought to rid schools of progressive-minded textbooks that encouraged students to consider economic inequality; two decades later the John Birch Society raised similar criticisms about school materials. As with CRT criticisms, the fear was that students would be somehow harmed by exposure to these ideas." my stance: just like how class reductionist is worthless, to me, so is liberal/capitalist identity politics or whatever you want to call it. intersectionality and class war are both needed equally |
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this video is slightly problematic; as it equals racism towards a building to real world racism . i think: i still need to see the whole 3 minute version, maybe that has a strong antiracist message |
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nvm, it isn't about racism towards buildings |
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or not only i'm sorry, if i'd done this research beforehand, this thread might have not gotten out of hand like this |
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Well, the White people had the wherewithal to combat Arab and Turkish invasion. I know that's upsetting for you. That's why there aren't colonised white people. Despite the best efforts of femme boys like Big. |
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I have no obligation to bend over to anyone who hates me. You can, and probably do, prick. |
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and turks fought off brits in the 1st world war so what? you think colonizing african countries was a big feat? |
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who do you mean me or big? |
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what're people's thoughts on building racism? |
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like interior racism? i'm sure it's different than racism in the open |
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Are you under the impression that all arabs and turks hate you? Do you want to tell us about it? |
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Just to put it in perspective regards who I'm arguing with: A French Cross dresser A Dutch Bachelor who "works" for an NGO A Canadian A Taxi driver |
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We can tolerate a diversity of beliefs on xltronic dot com. I, for one, think it's nice that bigotry has provided Roger a sense of fulfillment that eluded him in his botched stab at manhood. And I'm sorry if that upsets anyone. |
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i did get upset that he called me a taxi driver |
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i dont know what kind of information war is going on to battle for you guys. i feel like people being put in trenches here for no reason. a crime is a crime, a hate is a hate, no matter where it comes from. folks on this board seems to be reflected on this one, but, when big says in his well written post on top of the page that eastern or muslim aggression is a response to past (and present) western aggression i dont feel like he sees it as a noble cause as roger seems to be thinking of big or the political left. i certainly dont see it that way. i feel big pointed out rather well, how pointing the finger at groups is a dangerous thing. and it is kind of important to not let that one go. censorship, now, that is a two faced coin and im strictly against it. its the last resort. the use of a temp ban to set a signal isnt that bad, but that puts a lot of power on one or a few persons and will cost lots of their time. we can talk things out on this board. and im glad big pointed things out and you are all talking. |
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and please dont get personal, while youre at it. i havent read all the last posts, becuase i gotta get to work. |
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I agree |
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👍 @ijonspeches: yeah it costs time and, as they say, emotional labour @Roger, i don't work for an NGO. i've done a lot of unpaid stuff (this is too, actuall) |
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not that i'm against paid activism. it's another right wing talking point: complaining about paid activists. while the right has so much money, because they defend the (capitlist) status quo. ngo's eventually turn into establishment themselves, however, is a critique i can go along with (antiracists fight against racism NGOs copy from larger society; on a level crt discusses (like: they don't employ racism like some far right parties or something)) |
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