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Imagine doing that for a woman, no wonder why I went looking for butt sex |
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i am however, i regret to inform, Dutch |
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it's unpaid work but also a labour of love, i still hold friendly feelings towards Roger. though those disappeared a bit at times |
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yeah, little is known about building racism. it's often assumed it's passive, while it can be quite active, like the video in my OP showed |
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rightwing opinions can often intersect with a lot of heteronormativity btw "Heteronormativity is what makes heterosexuality seem coherent, natural and privileged. It involves the assumption that everyone is 'naturally' heterosexual, and that heterosexuality is an ideal, superior to homosexuality or bisexuality." |
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i just do hand stuff, see |
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this isn't something i come up with myself, i'm pretty much quoting , by this Dutch professor. who actually published her book first in English, because she knew Dutch society would be too fragile to take on her views |
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Critical race theory emerged out of postmodernist thought, which tends to be skeptical of the idea of universal values, objective knowledge, individual merit, Enlightenment rationalism, and liberalism—tenets that conservatives tend to hold dear. I dunno man this sounds like the kind of caricature of social justice that comes from guys like James Lindsay. Except it's real...? What kind of basis for critique are you left with if you throw universal values and objective knowledge under the bus? |
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Apparently we share 50% of our genetics with bananas, some of us on here much more than that! |
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Genuine lol! |
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: ^) |
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it was a reaction to what came before. by now it itself is old again i just wanted to bond over pooping on liberalism together |
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she doesn't really use terms like right- or leftwing, btw. i'm probably not doing it justice altogether. i was just fascinated, reading it (i still need to finish the last 1 or 2 chapters) the connections that were made with sexuality, from racism. and how when you read it, you're like 'ah, of course'. for me, at least |
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what they call liberal in the us is not the same as liberalism though when they say liberal they mean progressive no? |
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they're actually correct calling democrats liberals, because to lefties liberals are not really progressive or left wing |
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but yes, they mean progressive anyway many tony has some leninist takes on this or something |
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because the two major parties are the liberal and conservative party representing the left and right when you say liberal you don’t really mean someone supporting free market capitalism |
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that is the big gripe we have with it, that they support it and that the democrats and republicans are just putting on a show, toying with these few rights women and homosexuals have managed to get (and that trans folk don't seem to be able to get) i don't really understand what's the question |
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oh the democrat party supports capitalism sure but what i mean is when you call someone liberal in the us you are not really talking about someone supporting the economical system like you would be if you called someone liberal in europe possibly because there is no major party supporting social democracy in us anyway |
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yeah what tony supports is full government control over the market which is as retarded as no government control IMHO |
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yeah, that's probably a good way to look at it: no party supporting social democracy (my knowledge on this isn't too great) regarding government control: me, i'm a centrist on the centralist - anarchist spectrum |
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'retarded' is a anti-autist slur. i wonder if idubzzz has apologized for this particular one. i mean i liked he apologized to black people and even tana mongeau, but still on the other hand he made |
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that was a wrong way of wording it in communism there is no market |
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yeah sorry we can't use the r word right? i'm ready to step down from my role as an xltronic member |
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full government control over economy |
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we'll democratically centrally decide on what to do with you () |
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you can say netard rigger though |
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i guess it would have the same meaning thus being treated the same way in court. its a bit like if you said: "i would call you a cunt, if i was allowed to." you wont get away with it and it probably is for the better. |
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not that i consider it a good thing sueing people all day and night, i was just stating the obvious. |
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yeah i mean i don't condone the use of these words myself, even anagrams really i was being facetious i suppose. Having said that I don't think certain people getting po faced about identity politics on a FUCKING MUSIC FORUM! is appropriate either, but what do I know! |
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I was feigning anger by the way for comedic effect, well mostly feigning it |
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I can't believe I'm siding with that big tart Randy, look what you made me do! |
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I'd much rather live next door to Randy than a religious zealot who doesn't believe in things like gender equality or secularism. Randy is low hanging fruit cos he isn't the type of person to threaten you with a fatwa |
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This wasn't aimed at you btw just in case you think I'm having a go |
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nah, i get it. im tired and annoyed of this topic. it isnt that complicated either. there may or may not have been posts that made this discussion inevitable. i dont read all forum and basically nothing of the discord. one good thing about it though is people talking about this outside their bubble, yet in a place we have something in common. hopefully we can focus on that and respect each other as a person and each others boundaries. |
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oh and i find it a bit sad also, that i have less to say about electronic music at this point than all the other topics. found a great site though recently & i will open a thread about it .-) |
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I think I've lost the plot tonight, I just needed to get my frustrations out, actually its really nothing to do with what anyone has said if I think about it. I need to get off the computer for a bit! |
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what's legal is not the same as what's moral i didn't mind in this instance because the intend was not to harm. though maybe a black person will find it hurtful nonetheless. also the alt-right has exploited this irony loophole so much... |
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*hugs i listened to this most recent Little Joel Patreon livestream (check out Big Joel and Little Joel, on Youtube). he named Trey Parker and Matt Stone as his favorite conservative comedians. i guess i agree with that |
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"what's legal is not the same as what's moral" Are YOU gonna define what's actually moral? YOU? come on. You're just a stupid fucking stupid asshole on the internet, same as the rest of us. Why make ANYONE here a moral authority? Are you gonna pretend your subjective values are some kind of universal truth that exist outside of your body? I hope not, Archangel Big. Because that would be retarded. I've yet to see a good response to a wokester when blatantly called out for being sanctimonious. You're sanctimonious big. You're self righteous. You pretend your morals are universal when they're just your own. This is a terrible trait to have, it instantly makes you a piece of shit. |
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I 100% reject Big as a moral authority. |
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You're actually worse than the rest because you pretend to know what's right. I never saw w M w pull that shit |
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And just cuz you called me alt-right, ill tackle that too: I don't really know what alt right means, or how it differs from the traditional right, or how it differs from trumps maga-tards. They're all more authoritarian than I am, probably. I will say I disagree with political right wing on the following : The death penalty (strongly opposed, the state has no right to execute a man, and its very unseemly to do so after like 25 years waiting on death row. I detest it.) Abortion (I'm always pro choice in my personal vote, but the law should be up to the states and local voters more than anything. A fetus is alive to be sure, but its also completely a parasite.) Gay marriage (get married and have fun. Fuck that dudes ass. Yeah, boy. But no one has to make you a cake if they dont want. This is common sense.) Immigration (you can lock the border down if possible, but everyone already here should get full unequivocal amnesty). Government funding of disability and social security (some people really need this assistance and I'm willing to fight for their help). I'm not really easily offended but I slightly resent being referred to as right wing. Every test I've ever taken has put me in the libertarian center (dead center, due south). I don't really care beyond this, but I'll make this one correction and leave it be. I certainty don't care much about racism. That's your boogeyman, the thing you are justifabily allowed to hate. Being a racist is not any worse than being a common asshole. |
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im not supposed to have alcohol any more, the doctors say |
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i also need to quit smoking cigarettes. dont tell my wife about this little flub. she's asleep |
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i'm sorry big I know you're trying to be good. i'm not trying to be good. I just want to be surrounded by good art and then die. I guess that's pretty selfish but it's all I want. |
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you can take advice from big or wolfslice, or tony danza, but just recognize that you're talking advice from a man with a hamster avatar, or a corpse, or tony danza |
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morality is objective |
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exercise: argue that morality is subjective and personal without using insults, libertarian clichés or appeals to an imagined "common sense" (i.e. your personal bias). take care to define what you mean when you talk of morality, subjectivity, universal truth, etc. |
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