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offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-04-26 01:21 [#00194526]
Points: 11920 Status: Regular



IDM is not exclusive to whites

ANti-Pop are IDM as far as i know


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-04-26 01:22 [#00194527]
Points: 3476 Status: Regular | Followup to donkey: #00194504



donkey, i wana know where u get off saying that

u basically said that im racist cus im whtie


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-04-26 01:22 [#00194528]
Points: 9083 Status: Regular | Followup to smokehammer: #00194489



you have valid points smoke..I have been down that road..but
no amount of intellectualizing and Chomsky prevented me
getting bashed in the head..I mean isn't it ironic that the
biggest audience for Chomsky and his opnions is white..who
then go on and make it their duty to convince the ethnic
minority about how repressed and opressed they are..it's
like kicking a man already down on his knees in the
teeth..yes they are making some valid attempts..protests
demonstrations..but as soon as you direct people to read
their stuff..it just alienates them..for the lack of a
better word..it's preaching to the converted..I think the
goal is to reach the other 99 percent of the population..the
right wing and the capitalist media has it down to an art
form..appealing to the basest instincts and punching every
emotional trigger there is..its time for the turely well
intentioned liberal to fight back..fire with fire..appeal to
the emotion and not the minds of the populace..because
that's what they respond to the most..am I making any sense
here?


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-26 01:22 [#00194529]
Points: 1371 Status: Lurker



reflex, can't be bed time in canada yet, where are you?


 

offline StueF from St. Louis, Mo (United States) on 2002-04-26 01:23 [#00194531]
Points: 181 Status: Lurker | Followup to smokehammer: #00194512



yeah like the brits didn't subjugate anyone....
every culture fucked another at one time or another.
shit
most of the slaves that came out of africa were sold by
their fellow (black) africans.



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-04-26 01:23 [#00194532]
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Ignoring the rest of this debate, I find that statement
increadibly offensive- you say that I kept black people in
chains, I DID? I wasn't alive in the time of slavery. So
what if my great great great grandfather may have? Am I
somehow responsible for his actions BECAUSE I'M WHITE?


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-04-26 01:24 [#00194533]
Points: 11920 Status: Regular



he's trying to regain control over his muscles from laughing
his ass off so hard


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-04-26 01:24 [#00194534]
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Because black people CHOOSE not to listen to it?


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-04-26 01:24 [#00194536]
Points: 9083 Status: Regular | Followup to cygnus: #00194526



nah I dont buy it..you just aint black..thas all..


 

offline StueF from St. Louis, Mo (United States) on 2002-04-26 01:25 [#00194537]
Points: 181 Status: Lurker



o yeah

y did you have a picture of a "racist" white guy in ur
profile?
doesn't make sense if u think all whites hate u..


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2002-04-26 01:25 [#00194538]
Points: 12102 Status: Regular



Donkey, What do you call the shit that is happening in
Uganda? Blacks in Power whites the minority etc check some
history FULLY on Uganda, then you can spout your Half truth
history bollox.


 

offline donkey from ipswich (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-26 01:25 [#00194540]
Points: 71 Status: Lurker



all whites are naturally racist, i dont blame you, you cant
help it, if it was 300 years ago, youd all have us ebony
people as slaves, no doubt.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-04-26 01:26 [#00194542]
Points: 11920 Status: Regular



ROFL flea

now i'm not black


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-04-26 01:27 [#00194543]
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Yeah, it's really funny thinking about it- I don't have any
close friends who are Welsh! Of my 2 best mates one is
Jewish, the other zambian, another of my friends is
american, several are chinese my flatmates are English and
polish I've got french and german friends too.

Perhaps if I get a couple more ethnic friends to plug the
gaps in my collection nobody will ever be able to accuse me
of being rascist :)


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-26 01:27 [#00194544]
Points: 1371 Status: Lurker



personally I'm more into techno, quite a lot of which could
be classed intelligent and that aint white dominiated...
lets see

Juan Atkins
Derrick May
Kevin Sanderson
Jeff Mills
Claude Young
Carl Craig
Dave Angel
etc etc


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-04-26 01:27 [#00194545]
Points: 11920 Status: Regular



this is incredible


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-04-26 01:27 [#00194546]
Points: 3476 Status: Regular | Followup to donkey: #00194540



fuck, someone ban this guy

im not going to even try to argue with that

....ok, i will (briefly)

ur a moron

u really are

saying white people are naturally racist is as bad as saying
that black people are naturally slaves

dont u see that!??!

seriously, u deserve to be banned
i find ur statement extremely offensive and very racist


 

offline donkey from ipswich (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-26 01:28 [#00194548]
Points: 71 Status: Lurker



saying cygnus is not black is SO offensive, where do you get
off saying that?


 

offline donkey from ipswich (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-26 01:29 [#00194549]
Points: 71 Status: Lurker



you want to ban me cos im black, thats sick


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-04-26 01:29 [#00194550]
Points: 9083 Status: Regular | Followup to cygnus: #00194542



btw..what is ROFL?

and no I dont think you are black..I just think you dropped
it into the conversation at a tad too convenient a spot...


 

offline StueF from St. Louis, Mo (United States) on 2002-04-26 01:29 [#00194554]
Points: 181 Status: Lurker | Followup to donkey: #00194548



damn troll


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-04-26 01:29 [#00194555]
Points: 1463 Status: Lurker



flea

"the peoples front of judea" (monty python) is what I am
going to think about in relation to what you've said. Such
absurd humour often says so much about human nature...
Were they appealing to hearts or minds ?
I think the powers that be have corrupted the essence of
Chomsky and become traitors like in Animal Farm... Our (UK)
home secratary was talking about Britain being 'Swamped' by
foreigners today. He represents the "Left-Wing' of British
politics. What hope ....?



 

offline donkey from ipswich (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-26 01:30 [#00194558]
Points: 71 Status: Lurker



if your not racist why do you want to ban me?


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-26 01:30 [#00194559]
Points: 4700 Status: Lurker



hehe, yeah, but you know how cliche "I've got lots of black
friends..." is =)
I know one jewish kid and an american girl and I myself am
english through and through (unless you want to go back
hundreds of years when my family line was persecuted out of
france, hehe)


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-26 01:31 [#00194561]
Points: 1371 Status: Lurker



who?


 

offline StueF from St. Louis, Mo (United States) on 2002-04-26 01:31 [#00194562]
Points: 181 Status: Lurker | Followup to donkey: #00194549



you want to hate me 'cause i'm white??? thats sick


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-04-26 01:31 [#00194563]
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Wondered how long before someone brought that up ;)

Donkey: If all white people are racist, why do I have black
friends? Oh and do you mean just towards blacks or towards
asians or towards caucassians from other countries?


 

offline donkey from ipswich (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-26 01:32 [#00194564]
Points: 71 Status: Lurker



i dont hate white people, i have many as friends, but white
people are brought up to be racist


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-04-26 01:33 [#00194566]
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Because you're black obviously- he didn't try to ban you
when he thought you were white, but now he knows you're
black he wants to ban you.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-04-26 01:34 [#00194567]
Points: 9083 Status: Regular | Followup to smokehammer: #00194555



the new left..is capitalist bollix..we have a slightly
revised version of it here..I like the fact that Chomsky
gets under the collars of Corporations and the Establishment
but applying his theories to the masses is counter
productive....I dont know Mike Moore (of the shocking truth)
has got the right Idea..he is on the right track with his
campain


 

offline donkey from ipswich (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-26 01:35 [#00194571]
Points: 71 Status: Lurker



but many whites manage to suppress their racism,
intellectually, but deep in them lies fear of the black man


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-04-26 01:35 [#00194572]
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Troll alert. All white people are racist? Fuck that. I don't
even notice skin color. I was NOT brought up to be racist,
that's for damn sure. And i didn't enslave you... don't
blame me.


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-04-26 01:36 [#00194574]
Points: 3476 Status: Regular | Followup to donkey: #00194558



u stupid troll..

..i can only hope that was some sick joke
(in which case it wasn't funny, especially give all the
intelligent discussion that just went on)

saying white people are naturally racist is as bad as saying
black people are naturally slaves
u wouldn't say THAT, would u? neither would i

u racist moron, im white and im definitely not racist
in fact, very few (about.... 2) of my friends are even
white

im not trying to play the "impress people with my
multiculturalism" game here.... but ur statement was just
ignorant and racist and ur a dumb fuck



 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-04-26 01:37 [#00194576]
Points: 1463 Status: Lurker



michael moore is Very astute on welfare/worker/hierarchy
politics in the USA
and the global economy
but he does have Northern Ireland confused, and basically
doesn't stop far short of saying he supports the IRA
I've read his book "Stupid white men"
Its a good'un


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2002-04-26 01:38 [#00194577]
Points: 12102 Status: Regular



You are just a sad thick cunt donkey. You're talking
bollocks.

Take your sad arguments to your mother.


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-26 01:38 [#00194578]
Points: 4700 Status: Lurker



placing the blame on present and future generations just
perpetuates it all anyway


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-04-26 01:39 [#00194582]
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well the geographic divide can be attributed to his
ignorance on that matter..that is the point I have been
making..nobody is perfect..everyone has a bias they cant let
go of..very easily...


 

offline donkey from ipswich (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-26 01:39 [#00194583]
Points: 71 Status: Lurker



i have many white friends, good friends, and im not blaming
u personally for slavery, but it is your kind that enslaved
US!


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-04-26 01:39 [#00194584]
Points: 3476 Status: Regular | Followup to donkey: #00194571



and u cant hold people responsible for the actions of their
ancestors...

u know what that is?

thats called racism, u moron

calling me racist cus other people who also happen to be
white (who are not even close to related to me) used slavery
is incredibly ignorant and offensive

i cant get over it

how can such ignorant, stupid people exist?
the only explanation is that ur like 3 years old or
something
u actually ahve to be stupid to be racist, imo
cus the ideas dont add up logically... the beliefs make
absolutely no sense


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-26 01:39 [#00194585]
Points: 1371 Status: Lurker



I think we can safely say a certain person has just lost all
credibility


 

offline donkey from ipswich (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-26 01:40 [#00194588]
Points: 71 Status: Lurker



all the racial hatred comes out now doesnt it?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-04-26 01:40 [#00194589]
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I love it when new people come to a thread and give honest
opinions (they aren't just arguing to get out of a hole
they've dug themselves) that show the dull people they're
wrong...


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-04-26 01:41 [#00194591]
Points: 11920 Status: Regular



i can't believe i'm actually doing this:

http://cygnus_corp.tripod.com/asdfasdf.jpg



 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-04-26 01:41 [#00194592]
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on that point and noticing that cygnus the black has
suddenly disappeared I gotta bail too..cant believe everyone
fell for his " I am black" shtick...
cheers


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-04-26 01:41 [#00194593]
Points: 3476 Status: Regular | Followup to donkey: #00194583



my "kind"?!?!
now i belong to a KIND!?!?

what am i, a breed of dog or something?!?!



 

offline urb from Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-04-26 01:42 [#00194594]
Points: 568 Status: Regular | Followup to flea: #00194582



do you really believe that or is that what they taught you
in school?


 

offline StueF from St. Louis, Mo (United States) on 2002-04-26 01:42 [#00194595]
Points: 181 Status: Lurker | Followup to donkey: #00194583



my kind??
US??

sounds like you were either raised to be racist or u r a
troll



 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-04-26 01:42 [#00194596]
Points: 11920 Status: Regular



thats me. yes.


 

offline donkey from ipswich (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-26 01:42 [#00194597]
Points: 71 Status: Lurker



you attack me with such vitriol, just because im black


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-04-26 01:42 [#00194599]
Points: 1463 Status: Lurker



I like what EDDIE IZZARD said about the British empire ...

>OK men, this is India and its OURS !
>(Indian): what about us ? theres 500 million of us and we
were here first !
> Ah, but do you have a flag ?

and so Britain took India . And took all their spices, food,
minerals, silk and gold.

And left them a Billiard table.

:)


 


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