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What is the goal of society other than to sustain itself? Pretty fucking boring if you ask me. |
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Celebration and love |
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bumming |
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society- the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community goal- the object of a person's ambition or effort; an aim or desired result By those definitions, society can't have a goal. A goal is for an individual person with a brain. Human society can have 7 billion goals, but all have similar genetic programming to replicate genes. But I'm writing this post so that's my goal right now. If you ever pick up a pencil or open a refrigerator that is your goal. It's just a socialist/communist question, emphasizing the group. |
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Interesting yet flawed view, imo. It’s like saying a football team doesn’t have a goal. Sure, you can debate wether it’s eleven players working indivually or not, but I do think you could have put more thought into it. |
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the purpose of society is to generate as much value as possible for shareholders |
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What if 1 of the 11 football team members secretly has a goal of losing since he bet on the other team? A single human is a multi-cellular hive of single cells. Cells probably aren't intelligent enough to have goals other than what is hard wired with genetic programming. All cells in an individual have the same DNA so they are mutually altruistic and behave with the common goal of replicating their genes. Though I guess viruses etc can hijack a cell and give it a goal opposed to its peers. I guess u can think of a football team as a super organism, not nearly as fitting as an ant/bee colony since bee clones have a common genetic goal/makeup so behave as a single individual, whereas a football team is a group of 11 selfish gene vehicles. The selfish gene is why there's infighting in the game doom and why quentin terrantino brand is "a band apart", a fitting name for movies where there's a mix of cooperation and failed social cohesion/infighting. Kinda like the infighting of alex jones and joe rogan which might have been a tactical planned publicity stunt. It took me 20 min to refind this clip so i hope you like it. |
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society is a sampler and a blender thrown into a blender and sampled |
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its a bit of a nebulous concept, its like gravity it gets stronger the more people are around, like an overbearing mother |
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humans are obligate social animals, even if you go off and live in the hills alone you can only do that because you were raised and informed by Society we're like the , our eusocial cousins |
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I don't think I could do with out the conveniences society provides me, it definitely feels suffocating at times, I guess i need a holiday to Svalbard |
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eyy i bin wit a fewwa da goils lookin like dem sand puppies amirite *boing-oing-oing noise* |
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Oh yeah, I remember naked mole rats from an attenborough documentary, probably the africa one. I'm not sure if the colony is all genetic clones like ants, but they at least all have the same queen mother. Therefore they all have very similar (or maybe nearly identical) genes and are altruistic toward eachother, since from evolution's perspective, helping a sibling spread it's genes is nearly the same as spreading your own genes since they're almost the same genes. Fitting humans into such a eusocial system is putting a square peg in a round hole since we're not all siblings/clones so individuals are more genetically competitive. A mole rat queen has hard wired altruism toward all its offspring/colony. A president/king/etc doesn't, though modern environment is different than the hunter gatherer conditions we are hard wired for, and memetics, a replication system on top of genetics, probably scrambles things in even more complex ways. |
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I think they don't sense physical pain as well or something, odd creatures but very admirable |
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like mushroom mammals |
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society is a great movie imo |
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this is the dumbest thread and I can see why ampi max gets mad and posts death metal lyrics and says "thats you" fellas, human persons exist only because we exist in a matrix of other people, our humanity and personhood woven out of the mad-libs back and forthing of culture and language without that we're unthinkable, just vague ape shapes quickly dying imagine yourselves without xltronic unthinkable monkeys |
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dunno if its related but im having some fun getting people pissed on linked out of their self-title personas with total lack of human skills |
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linkedin |
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guess the best use for linkedin is chicks |
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I suppose some distinction should be drawn between society which is inherent in all higher life forms and modern civilization where arbitrary rules have been established which aren't predicated on the natural world. or something |
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well humans make up rules and the ones some people don't like they call arbitrary and the ones they do like they try to ground in nature (or divinity), as unavoidable fact since we're making them up why not ground them in democratic consensus, human flourishing and the common good instead anyways culture / society goes far beyond "rules" though if big dumb hairless apes are going to live together they do need rules of some sort |
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yeah I guess what is arbitrary and what is necessary are only different by degrees. Oh yeah don't get me wrong without some sort of development of a general consensus, none of us would be having this conversation, im playing devils advocate a bit |
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where the general good conflicts with individual freedoms, its a never ending state of contention |
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social contract and all that |
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i also really like the "we live in a society" meme, although it is not as good as the brian yuzna movie |
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bottom text |
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when your older you realise most people are alright aren't they, its just the 10% of real arse holes who bugger stuff up for the rest of us |
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No, most people are cunts |
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I think there are loads of idiots around but they aren't intentional arseholes just idiots, |
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Look deeper |
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it depends on the goals you have |
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I suppose its subjective, my cunt scale is more exponential |
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You probably live in a more friendly place than I do tbh |
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oh no im surrounded by cunts lol |
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im just trying to be more optimistic about things for my own mental wellbeing |
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The cunts might be more honest than the avarage person. |
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loooooool |
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no you are not more honest |
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guys do you ever put on eyeliner and look at yourself in the mirror by candlelight and say stuff like "je suis le nuit" |
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I avoid the mirror like a vampire, not that I dislike myself physically, ive always been freaked out at looking at my mirror image too much |
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i'm sorry i tried to make this thread better fleet have you seen society it's a good movie |
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the cunts are a mirror |
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I'll check it ASAP, it's pure criminal negligence on my part that I haven't already. I love his other stuff that I've seen. |
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Don't bother with Society, watch Climax instead |
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ew no |
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