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RussellDust
on 2019-01-11 18:01 [#02566997]
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I’ll check that out, thanks!
People, I don’t think I’m expressing myself exactly how I would like. I don’t think I’m an unreasonable person, and certainly not a drama queen or conspiracy theorist. So yeah I’m a tad surprised. I see I can’t get my message accross, or that you simply don’t agree, but that’s all I feel I’m getting back.
“Oh that’s wrong old school worries”. Basically you don’t agree (Juliette) but are not bringing much to the table for me to digest. So I guess we’ll just agree to disagree and high five. The fact that the internet hasn’t changed things and that this matter I’m discussing has always existed to this degree is just not something I can swallow.
Anyway, I probably appear as if I’m really worried and a neurotic mess, bu I’m only talking about something I’ve noticed and that scares me to the core. I have faith in people though, and I desire a positive outlook on things. Just chatting I guess.
Love you lot!
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RussellDust
on 2019-01-11 18:03 [#02566998]
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As for the loaded debate. I have no idea! I didn’t get this from books or essays or podcasts or whatever. I wasnhope even aware of the debate. These are my observations and it’s possibly why I’m still typing! *lets go*
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RussellDust
on 2019-01-11 18:05 [#02566999]
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You see with you guys, because of what I’ve said I’m already possibly categorised and put into a group of “similarly minded” people. Well, whatever that group is: fuck it! I don’t want to be a part of it. I don’t want to be lazily defined as a person and put into boxes l. IMO it’s wrong and it’s why I hate groups.
Ok fuuuuuck shut up russell fucking dust! :D
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-01-11 19:09 [#02567000]
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i hate groups on whatsapp, i feel a secret pleasure when i see those people admin faces when we meet and we dont talk about the fact that i fucked out of the group abruptly.
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mermaidman
on 2019-01-11 19:58 [#02567001]
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lol mohamed is too cool for whatsapp groups he likes grouping races and religions instead
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mermaidman
on 2019-01-11 20:04 [#02567004]
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cue for hate in 3...2...1...
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2019-01-11 20:32 [#02567010]
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You see with you guys, because of what I’ve said I’m already possibly categorised and put into a group of “similarly minded” people. Well, whatever that group is: fuck it! I don’t want to be a part of it. I don’t want to be lazily defined as a person and put into boxes l. IMO it’s wrong and it’s why I hate groups.
22 seasons of South Park, ladies and gentlemen. 22 seasons.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-01-11 23:32 [#02567020]
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Have you seen the panda cheese commercials on youtube, funny arab shit
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-01-12 08:52 [#02567026]
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i still listen to the wise people of this site even if i dont want to make them win apparently. its soul-ish, it pushes us to do always better.
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RussellDust
on 2019-01-12 10:47 [#02567028]
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No idea what you mean!
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2019-01-12 17:12 [#02567032]
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well south park has created a generation of socially isolated, politically neutralized intellectual cowards terrified to take ideas seriously or join groups with common interests, pre-emptively conditioned to despise the sense of community they're desperately hungering for
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2019-01-12 17:16 [#02567033]
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this might be the darkest thread yet on zilty which is really saying something.
this fursona really does belong in a coffin, sorry guys
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RussellDust
on 2019-01-12 17:26 [#02567034]
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Wow, how kind. I’ll not bother stating opinions here if it’s to fucking judge me. I feel like I’m some holocaust apologist. Also thanks for categorising me yet again. For your info I know about four seasons of South Park and haven’t watched it for a good 10 years. I don’t even know why I’m justifying myself to you actually, but sure, I’m what you said.
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RussellDust
on 2019-01-12 17:34 [#02567037]
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I gave an observation I made, I stuck my ground. Explained myself politely, so why the need to be a prick about things? I don’t want to be labelled by a group I’d be in. Sorry that offends your intellect. Also nice one with the South Park box! Christ.
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RussellDust
on 2019-01-12 17:48 [#02567038]
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Lastly, pamplemousse, what’s this bs about not having an opinion or voice if you’re not part of a group? That depends on the person. Ah yes the individual!
Anyways can we have an interlude of some sort, possibly comical? I dunno, something! (Thanks in advance) :D
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-01-12 17:56 [#02567039]
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russells mostly right here take another L tony
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mermaidman
on 2019-01-12 18:21 [#02567040]
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i think you guys are talking about different things. tony is talking about being a part of the society and taking action if you want to make a change and russell is talking about not wanting to be tagged with a political view, ethicity, religion etc. both are right imo
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-01-12 18:34 [#02567041]
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fleetmouse. the politics of inevitability/eternity is something ive listened to timothy snyder discuss a lot. its basically saying that where liberal democracy has not been robust - it slips from inevitability to eternity. the rise of inequality (which you tried to 'teach' me about) is something i clearly agree with snyder about - once again you decide to paint me as someone who wouldnt know this, even tho im more aware of snyders work (and the work of many others who describe a similar situation) than you are.
snyder is saying that as liberal democracy begins to look like it dosnt provide, or is a trap, or will not give you the grand things it promised - peoples pyschology can be twisted very easily from a state of inevitable progress to eternal crisis. this has happened to you
putins propaganda networks offering platforms to people like jason hickle with the words ENGINEERED INEQUALITY underneath his disgusting face IS exactly the politics of eternity that snyder warns us against. that isnt my interpretation. thats what snyder says. snyder makes it perfectly clear that russia understands eternity and is using voices like jason hickle as a means to export russias neurosis - to help push our psychology from inevitable to eternal.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-01-12 18:47 [#02567042]
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when you thoughtlessly share news from questionable sources like al jazeera and leftwing altmedia podcasts - ur being eternal
when you talk about community and culture being eroded by liberalism - u are being eternal
when you worship nostalgic characters like jeremy corbyn without thinking if hes really a decent guy - you are being eternal
eternal is a very bad thing to be - the book you are supposed to be reading will make this very clear to you im like SUPER sure and its crazy if you aint getting the message
snyders work is not jason hickle or chomsky or seymore hersh (who have all appeared on russian media to help spread the eternal story)
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2019-01-12 19:39 [#02567043]
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lol, psychology
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-01-12 19:42 [#02567044]
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yo fleetmouse snyder has done loads of quick vids explaining these ideas we should go thru em. dont take my word for things cos im a cunt thats bad at explainin stuff really. please drop the reddit shit and try snyder out some more
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-01-12 19:44 [#02567045]
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pfft what do u want ms frogshit
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-01-12 19:46 [#02567046]
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oh u wanted me to talk about polital correctness stuff and freespeech or something. look, can we try that one tommorow dude?
LAZY_TITLE listen to my new music tho
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-01-12 19:48 [#02567047]
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its fucked up but fleetmouse hasnt liked any of my soundcloud. mohamed isnt even following me
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-01-12 19:53 [#02567048]
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darius
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2019-01-12 20:00 [#02567049]
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music sounds nice imo but i'm more interested in what doom wad this picture is from ? ?
also i like sociology and ethics but psychology is very boring
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-01-12 20:06 [#02567050]
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pretty sure its from one of the doomworld cacowards https://www.doomworld.com/cacowards/ maybe 2014 but i cant remember. if u reverse search the image you will find it in doomworld i think
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-01-12 20:07 [#02567051]
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i wasnt talking about psychology i just used the word im sure you see what i mean
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-01-12 20:11 [#02567052]
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darius LAZY_TITLE this has a cool doom wad. i cant remember its name so im sorry
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RussellDust
on 2019-01-12 20:33 [#02567053]
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I enjoy having a shrink (I’m the boss) but agree that psychology as a moving and evolving “science” is seriously lacking. Today if a psychiatrist isn’t working for an insurance company they tend to over prescribe and rely on numbing over anything else. It’s like something started off pretty promisingly and then stagnated, slowly giving in to the pharmaceutical industry.
Juliette btw I hope we’re cool! I understand what you told me and don’t see you as “opposition”. To be honest with you I was thinking about it today at the supermarket. I just don’t want to upset anyone.
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RussellDust
on 2019-01-12 20:35 [#02567054]
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Soon personality traits that differ from the accepted norm will be regarded as disease. *ducks*
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RussellDust
on 2019-01-12 20:35 [#02567055]
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AMPI you know they like your music
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-01-12 20:39 [#02567056]
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im really lonely russell. this all i have to put my efforts into at the moment
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2019-01-12 21:00 [#02567057]
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we're cool, no worries!
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RussellDust
on 2019-01-12 21:03 [#02567058]
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Honestly, my webpal, people here are great fans of your work. The amount of bumped threads, you really make great music. You’re also quite the character here. I can understand and respect loneliness, but here you’re not alone.
Yeah that was wanky! Ah well you know, us lonely people aren’t alone in harbouring that sentiment.
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RussellDust
on 2019-01-12 21:04 [#02567059]
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I’ve been playing Blazing Star lately.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-01-13 00:42 [#02567062]
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must be your fourth account i just followed
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2019-01-13 14:54 [#02567065]
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lol look at this fucking snowflake
big data student being made to think about the ethical concerns pertaining to his field. truly orwellian.
seriously if you really are concerned about intellectual integrity: do not ever listen to shitty reactionary sophists like jordan peterson. they're the real problem. regardless of one's political opinions, this kind of selfsatisfied propaganda is a disgrace.
that's all i'll say on the subject; just... don't listen to bullshit. this is indefensible.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2019-01-13 14:56 [#02567066]
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i mean since we're talking orwell just check out this fucking doublethink
leftist student doesn't like having to read book by conservative, leftist student asks for content warning: those snowflakes want to stay in their intellectual bubble, they're the real fascists, they're ruining academia.
conservative student doesn't want to have to read book by progressive bluehaired woman: academia is poisoned, this book needs to be pulled off the reading list, join the resistance.
this is bullshit. i was far too generous when i said peterson and his ilk had genuine intellectual concerns. i forgot. there's nothing more to be said on the subject and i vow not to post more. jus' have a think for yourself.
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2019-01-13 15:46 [#02567067]
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I agree 100%, it is important for educators to expose young minds to the moral issues in their fields, and especially to provide the proper context to those issues so students won't fall into the trap of dangerous ideology.
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RussellDust
on 2019-01-13 16:17 [#02567068]
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Who here listens to Jordan Peterson? The part business man, part guru, part sociopath just doesn’t appeal to me. I saw him in a documentary on cults the other day, didn’t realise he was creating “men”. You know, “real men”. Masculists. Can you say that?
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2019-01-13 18:22 [#02567070]
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agreed, it is very important that everyone's private data should be exploited for surveillance and marketing in a way that is socially conscious
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-01-13 18:49 [#02567071]
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this thread has: a) triggered me into thinking things b) interrupted my watching sparkles and movement c) made me hungry d) clims
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RussellDust
on 2019-01-13 19:18 [#02567072]
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Ha ha! Yes the use of “clims” did make me laugh!
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2019-01-13 20:25 [#02567073]
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At first I hated Jordan Peterson when he was assaulting transfolk on campus, but then I thought he was OK when he destroyed Sam Harris (a Nazi who literally supports eugenics) on Sam Harris's podcast.
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2019-01-13 20:32 [#02567074]
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Exactly. Facebook is a private company, and even if I don't agree with everything Facebook does, I will defend to the death Facebook's right to operate however Facebook wishes.
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2019-01-13 20:35 [#02567075]
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Within reason, of course; I don't think things like Facebook's recent anti-Semitic attacks on prominent Jewish figures have any place in our society.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2019-01-13 21:12 [#02567076]
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ugh how are you so good at this
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RussellDust
on 2019-01-13 22:42 [#02567077]
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Other way around for me. The first time I came across him somewhere he was making a valid point within whatever context it was. So I looked him up and watched a few videos and very quickly disliked him. Also destroying Sam Harris doesn’t automatically make him a saint or sane person. I like animals and so did Hitler (to stay with nazis) but i wouldn’t use that in his defence.
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2019-01-14 00:29 [#02567078]
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I like animals too, but domesticated animals really should be outlawed. Besides the fact of the exploitative relationship between human and animal, domestication causes an unfathomable amount environmental devastation. It shouldn't come as a surprise to learn that Hitler owned a number of dogs. (They were German Shepherds, the same breed used by police forces today, perhaps not coincidentally.)
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