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DADONCK
from here on 2018-06-06 23:46 [#02553715]
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Hey guys,
I'm trying to find interesting stuff that is (somehow) played live or meant to be experienced live (not on your usual stereo system) and has interesting approaches to sounddesign
especially in recent times of nostalgia where the timbre evokes pictures in your mind of old, dusty video games you found in your uncles basement or it simply sounds like 90s rave made by russian glue sniffers, played on a hifi system on the Enterprise from Star Trek… whatever. I'm talking about stuff like Oneohtrix Point Never, who has a very artistic and definitely interesting approach to showing off archives of ethno synth presets he found on his dads old Juno 60 synth, or Lorenzo Senni who was so smart to buy a JV-1080 before even Legowelt was praising it (both Roland synths, both on Warp – conspiracy anyone?)
So, nowadays there are Autechre (still) who showed some nice Max/MSP Faltungshall tricks on their last tour. On the other side good ol rich fell in love with the guy from Cirklon and never touched Metasynth again… Which is great, don't get me wrong. But I'm hungry for some fresh sounds. Maybe I'm just getting old and my ears are tired. But no, there must be some squelchy new additive synth tricks or concatenative, physical modeling burps
any ideas? and don't come with Holly Herndon
like and opdsds maybe
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-06 23:58 [#02553716]
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wibble
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-06 23:58 [#02553717]
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only kidding, interesting thread, I just don't have anything good to add at the mo
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DADONCK
from here on 2018-06-07 00:18 [#02553718]
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I think there is not much to add, even the stuff I suggested like Gabor Lazar, for example. He sounds a little bit like Aphex Twin's Mathematical Equation played in a loop in the length of a whole album. And Pedder Mannerfelt rocks the EMS Synth A, a Synth older than himself.
I remember reading an interview where Aphex was praising Ceephax for making 90s acid. It was after 2000, what I would call the golden age of IDM where it was a new thing, when people played live with Laptops. For the last 5 years, Laptops are equipped with 16 GB of Ram. That has never happened before. New evolvement in Consumer electronics is important for creating new… things
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-07 00:26 [#02553719]
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it will take someone coming up with a radical new style and everyone copying them for the next 15 years, I suppose its like a coal face, what is their left to mine, it doesn't feel like much but we cant know what we cant see
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DADONCK
from here on 2018-06-07 00:41 [#02553720]
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right, but im just asking myself: am i just a grumpy old bag, or is there actually nothing happening and we are living a simulation ?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-07 00:45 [#02553721]
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great vid, thought provoking
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-07 00:54 [#02553722]
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since mid 90s things have regurgitated quicker and quicker and recycled, we are living in a Philip k dick novel,
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-07 01:12 [#02553723]
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Its weird how people are making music of a degraded collective memory of what it was like to live 25 years ago, its kind of sinister now ive watched that video
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2018-06-07 06:46 [#02553727]
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do u mean that music where part of the music is where they throw bombs at the audience
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DADONCK
from here on 2018-06-07 12:03 [#02553731]
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no drops please
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2018-06-07 13:14 [#02553733]
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Qebrus?
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DADONCK
from here on 2018-06-07 21:08 [#02553759]
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I really like Qebrus, still sad that he passed away. I heard it was drug related
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DADONCK
from here on 2018-06-07 21:09 [#02553760]
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is this your modular on the pic Umbro? Nice Doepfer Filter :) much cheap, much character
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DADONCK
from here on 2018-06-07 21:31 [#02553761]
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okay this thread is closed
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DADONCK
from here on 2018-06-07 23:38 [#02553770]
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ok
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DADONCK
from here on 2018-06-07 23:39 [#02553771]
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this thread
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-07 23:42 [#02553772]
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lol
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-07 23:46 [#02553773]
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-07 23:47 [#02553774]
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-07 23:53 [#02553775]
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-07 23:58 [#02553776]
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-08 00:03 [#02553777]
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what the threads about
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-08 00:04 [#02553778]
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LAZY_TITLE this is great
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DADONCK
from here on 2018-06-08 00:11 [#02553779]
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ahahhaha, great!
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-08 00:16 [#02553780]
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im not sure about this adult contemporary codpiece lounge music
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DADONCK
from here on 2018-06-08 00:25 [#02553781]
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i remember seeing that bit on tv as a teenager
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-08 00:37 [#02553782]
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the contemporaneous codpiece lounge? you really did have liberal parents!
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DADONCK
from here on 2018-06-08 00:46 [#02553784]
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my parents are working ants. they gave me a tv when i was 14. after that i slept in class
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DADONCK
from here on 2018-06-08 00:47 [#02553785]
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or 12? maybe 12, already
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-08 00:50 [#02553786]
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do you remember the feeling of starting to drift off in classes and you wake up and you realise where you were, not at home, very bizarre feeling
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2018-06-09 18:06 [#02553883]
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seeing sounds is called synaesthesia and i could rable about this all day.
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RussellDust
on 2018-06-09 18:23 [#02553885]
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It’s association really, more than “seeing” sounds. You can’t see sounds but you can associate images to them, and I mean radically and sometimes automatically (synaesthesia), colours and shapes come automatically attached to a sound. Same goes with taste etc, but your not hearing taste, or seeing it. It’s an association. I’ve found that people with this condition are quite cocky about it. Fun observation.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2018-06-09 18:38 [#02553886]
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i know a chiptune musician who more or less has an oscilloscope in his brain. very consistant, reliable visual response. i told him i was jealous. he replied, "oh, i wish i could switch it off, sometimes. it can be annoying."
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2018-06-12 00:01 [#02554003]
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LAZY_TITLE spent a while looking for this in my bookmarks see what you think
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-06-12 00:29 [#02554004]
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that's quite nice, i'd like to hear it on better headphones or a good system. i was a bit sceptical until about 4 min in, thought it sounded like a richard devine max/msp wankfest but the quieter it got the more i liked it. still, it's hardly groundbreaking
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2018-06-12 01:13 [#02554005]
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well i aint a max kind of guy at all that stuff is over my head. so this just sounded a bit fancy like transformers or whatever
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DADONCK
from here on 2018-06-12 08:30 [#02554011]
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musique corncrete
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-13 23:09 [#02554083]
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Trevor Wishart - Fanfare and contrapunctus U mentioned Holly Herndon- she uses CDP, which was made by him :p
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-13 23:13 [#02554084]
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Redbird
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-13 23:17 [#02554085]
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Can also hear CDP on MikeD & PeterG 'Virtual Farmer', and aphex stuff from turn of the century... I suppose it's worth mentioning because ->That type of thing is not at all overused in stuff at all yet as far as i can hear -> it is old old software full of lots of work that should be preserved and used by people and is open source now too -> Trevor is c00l
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DADONCK
from here on 2018-06-13 23:29 [#02554086]
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trevor is one of my faves, when i heard this piece for the first time…
wow
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DADONCK
from here on 2018-06-13 23:32 [#02554087]
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this is great, too
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-13 23:32 [#02554088]
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David Tudor NEURAL SYNTHESIS was my new fav record week b4 last, the binaural ones, which are not on utube
VHS of him doing it live in '90s: LAZY_TITLE And HEcker too, then
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-13 23:38 [#02554089]
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Have u seen the books he did? Lots of detailed enlightening hand illustrations of waveforms and harmonics and things! Mazin... Think he has a book of musical games for kids out recently too
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-13 23:53 [#02554091]
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Alright i'm gonna be a bit negative here: I've seen ppl from academic music backgrounds do live laptop stuff where they've clearly been enabled by seeing stuff like that Tudor vid, but honestly it's a million fucking miles away... Tudors the boss, ... like, can't they hear the difference?
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DADONCK
from here on 2018-06-14 00:01 [#02554093]
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i made an installation once, inspired by tudors rainforest project. great stuff, i also remember a video of him playing cages' 4:33 (:
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DADONCK
from here on 2018-06-14 00:03 [#02554094]
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LAZY_TITLE
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-14 00:03 [#02554095]
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It wasn't in on a load of networked iMacs was it :\ ? I saw one done like that once.. (rainforest)
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DADONCK
from here on 2018-06-14 00:20 [#02554096]
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his rainforest project?
its more like a forrest full of sounding sculptures
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i experimented with audio feedback and metal plates. and build a hanging metal sculpture and a little patch in pure data which created a sound environment that got louder when people got quieter. i was also inspired by di scipios audible ecosystems
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