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he's jewish, duh |
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((( ))) |
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Oh thank you. I didn't post in the other thread however. And yes, i read the books by Berman & Bruckner and also about postmodernism (made a thread about it a while ago) |
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Sorry, not buying it. It's obvious Ampi is a right wing extremist, and concern trolling about antisemitism is his "beard". I also think he's forming a terror cell with Monoid. |
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This isn't a message board, it's a message ward. |
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he is a despicable c*nt, whos he think he is Oswald Mosley |
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- This is EUROPE. |
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I'm not living in the uk but does who do: what's gonna be the final result? |
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In Western self-hatred, the Other has no place. It is a narcissistic relationship in which the African, the Indian, and the Arab are brought in as extras in an endless drama about settling scores: and that is why we are witnessing the conjunction of remorse with racism, of affliction with the stalest egoism. The automatic nature of the self-flagellation barely conceals our insensitivity or scorn for faraway cultures (which we like only if they remain traditional and authentic, that is, archaic). The bitter raillery is extended to the rest of humanity and makes it impossible for us to love another person. How could we admire the grandiose metaphysics of Sufism, Hinduism, or Buddhism, how could we understand foreign traditions if we begin by trampling on our own in a sort of militant ignorance that looks a lot like vandalism? Let us beware of anyone who values the foreigner only out of disdain for himself: his self-aversion will end up infecting his sympathies. Let us become friends of ourselves so that we can be friends again with others. |
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its a good book The Tyranny of Guilt: An Essay on Western Masochism Pascal Bruckner youre going to be stupid if you dont read it |
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Every Way of the Cross eventually leads to redemption. For condemned Europeans, there remains one exit that will allow them to avoid decline: shifting the blame to two nations unworthy of European civilization, Israel and the United States, repudiating them in order to redeem ourselves. Breaking all ties with them, unceasingly renouncing them, calling loudly and clearly, if not for their disappearance, at least for their neutralization, proving that “the West” does not exist, that it is a concept that is not pertinent because it includes dissimilar realities. For those who have lost all their subversive hopes and are not satisfied by the sartorial affectations of , there still remains, to quench their thirst for the absolute, a final noble savage: the Palestinian. He is the great Christ-like icon, the oppressed of the oppressed, whose beatification has been proceeding for the past thirty years. And the fact that his situation has hardly improved makes it possible to keep alive the revolt he incarnates. In 1974 Jean Genet, who praised in his books the beauty of SS men, hoodlums, assassins, Black Panthers, and fedayeen, explained in an interview with Tahar Ben Jalloun: “Why the Palestinians? It was perfectly natural that I should be attracted not only to the most disadvantaged people but also to the one that most fully crystallizes hatred of the West.”1 The point is that the Palestinians, or rather the mythical idea that people have formed of them, conjoin two elements that promote this crystallization: they are poor compared with a handful of colonizers, some of whom came from Europe, and they are mostly Muslims, that is, members of a religion that part of the Left thinks is the spearhead of the disinherited. |
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you see if you'd just read these books i told you about in the first place you wouldnt be confused. btw im clearly not rightwing |
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Does=those |
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Maybe you should stop telling people to read books in order to understand your confused stances, and statements, and try and make a little sense. |
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no real consensus can be made on internet it seems, imagine what its like at the EU or UN must be a fucking nightmare |
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no you should just read the books im not kidding |
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nice 1 monoid |
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I'm reading enough books already, I'm not kidding. People here are not as stupid as you make them out to be. |
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Bruckner is so horny to prevent people from feeling compassion for Palestinians that he wants to throw the fundamental aspect of humanity known as "having a conscience" under the bus. I can see how that would appeal to Monoid, as it's an endorsement of psychopathy, his natural state. |
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rediculous |
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how bout that new aphex twin? |
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its a good book. its not about psychos. bruckner is saying YOU dont care about palestinians. and hes saying thats a sick thing. youve never cared about a single dead palestinian. you dont care about the yarmouk camp, or women and gays, you dont care about the Palestinian victims at all. you only tune in for violent resistance - the one thing that will always ensure palestinians never get a state. |
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this place is boring cos people arent interested in anything real, just weird stories about world control and hidden monsters made of money, everyone at the top is a psychopath, things like that. its mostly in your head. |
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Cheer up guys, fortunately there are lots of honest and informative places to find out what's really happening in the middle east. Here are two of them. Also check out this with Max Blumenthal, author of Goliath |
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Dude, if you support Israel, you also support palestinians It is not a total black/white issue, where israel doesn't make any mistakes, but for example lgbt people enjoy far mor greater freedoms in israel, than in the surrounding states. |
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Max Blumenthal is a bit nuts. The Left (Die Linke) party chief Gregor Gysi took refuge in a toilet after two activist journalists chased him down alleging that he called them anti-Semitic. |
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Max takes a lot of slander from people because they can't rebut or find anything factually wrong with what he's written. If you click through on the link Monoid posted and watch the video of the "incident", you'll see David Sheen speaking forcefully to someone who smeared him as an antisemite. You'll notice that Max is actually the more levelheaded of the two - perhaps because unlike David he doesn't have to return to Israel and live with the threats that being smeared as an antisemite will bring upon him. I think Max's work stands for itself. |
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Well, if two left wing parties have a problem with Max Blumenthals output, it is maybe time to be a bit more sceptical about the things he says and writes. |
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Well, Monoid, if a "left wing party" told you to drink your own piss, would you do that too? Tsk, tsk. A free thinking person might want to read what Max has to say, and decide for himself. You're going to be stupid if you don't read it. |
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ive read max blumenthal. sites like electronic intafada and mondoweiss are really biased. how can you be reading that stuff uncritically? |
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all im asking is you cheer up about finding new information. sure go ahead hate america but try and get a new angle on it or youre going to be a boring person. cos ykno EVERYONE hates america and israel. its getting dull you have to agree. try some new things. |
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you people arent thick or boring like i say sometimes. i actually really like you. sorry its just that i feel this whole thing is in your way. imagine if this place was happier.... |
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Israel's New Racism: The Persecution of African Migrants in the Holy Land |
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Alall dis fassy men talkin shit just out du man stey in da Eu wanna get Brexit fo brekfast nuh man sef , me gunna tek de pasport an roll up a big split to da Cameron fase den blow da shit mek mushroom cloud for dem eu terradome.... Nuf sed innit |
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It's great to see you're all on topic. |
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its actually too hard to tell in or out crazone. the whole debate has just been crap and crazy so im even thinking not to vote. |
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youve just found out about settlers? for the first time? you must be outraged. |
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umbroman. im not jewish |
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I sincerely hope you stay in. My ideal is to become one peaceful world. Leaving europe will make that process longer again, it's a step away, you all should fight for the problems Britain and the EU have atm, not run away from it. |
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in the words of the greaat donald J trunp OUT OUT OUT #outspiration |
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WAKE UP vote out |
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im remaining because the leavers seem crazy |
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i almost didnt. just to piss off fleetmouse. thinks he can talk to me with his 5 minute google search for settlers and africans. an insult still in that chomsky zone with The Nation. keep telling you chomsky is rubbish. also chomsky is faded and irrelevant and depressing. completely the opposite of what i said fleetmouse which is cheer up + find new ideas to think about |
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does brexit come before or after brunch? which spoon do i use first? |
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Ampi, settlers are nothing new, and nothing new to me. They're just a slower version of the ethnic cleansing and property theft that began in 1948. Sometimes it slows down, sometimes it speeds up, but it's always happening. a nice settler lady And it's not just the settlers. How about that ? |
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I voted out because I want the right to legally own a 1600w vacuum cleaner |
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We've got our country back. Thanks to all of you. #IndependenceDay — Nigel Farage (@Nigel_Farage) June 24, 2016 DATS RACIST. although he does have a point.... |
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