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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-07 15:59 [#02497266]
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what do you think guys?
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2016-06-07 18:31 [#02497267]
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participating in the EU brings all the benefits of being raped by mega corps due to TTIP.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-07 21:41 [#02497280]
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voting OUT because i'm severely right wing
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-06-07 21:46 [#02497281]
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voting, in and out shake it all about
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2016-06-07 22:32 [#02497284]
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go to the place with the less villains
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2016-06-08 21:33 [#02497315]
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or go to a theocracy
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-06-08 22:06 [#02497317]
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id kind of like the north of england to split away with scotland, got no issue with southerners, i just dislike westminister
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2016-06-08 23:59 [#02497318]
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All the mentals, dumbs and wrongos want brexit so it must be bad. That is what I, a fellow on the inter-net, thinks.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-06-09 00:06 [#02497319]
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yes its kind of being asked if you want to be punched in the face or kicked in the bollocks, personally id rather stay in cos as you say all the fascist/screw loose nutters want out,
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2016-06-09 01:31 [#02497320]
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I want to vote out, for various reasons in which i think would benefit Britain, but apparently by doing so I'm a racist, despite it being little about immigration and nothing to do with race.
The funny thing is Cameron spouts ambition of similar things, about immigration control and increasing indusrty and skills within Britain, so I'm probably not going to vote now as either way I could be thick or racist.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-06-09 07:07 [#02497327]
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^ it would definitely be wrong of me to tar everyone with the same brush, half of my family and friends want out, i dont think you would be racist for voting out for one moment. I should have worded my comment better to say that its people like nigel farage and the EDL who want out and that makes me worry the whole thing is just about mass immigration without anything else taken in to account.
What i can personally say is that the funds the EU earmarked for the area in which i live have been put to great use when thatcherite Britain had a policy of managed decline of liverpool, i think liverpool would still be a relative wasteland if it wasnt for the EU money that was scheduled for its regeneration. Europe generally seems more socialist if not more bureaucratic than any UK government so its helped address alot of issues in parts of the country that arent London.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-06-09 07:14 [#02497328]
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Having said that i don't like the overly bureaucratic nature of the EU and the benign control Germany more or less has,
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-09 10:24 [#02497331]
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the big open secret is that we can't actually leave even if the good guys win the referendum. because the tory party and the labour party want to stay in, and they are the two biggest parties. we could win the referendum, but then we are fucked because the tories are in power. the tories are pro eu membership.
it's like having cancer, then calling a referendum on whether the cancer should leave your body. the referendum can't cure or solve the problem.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-06-09 11:25 [#02497336]
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^ your probably right, all i know is im sick of hearing about it from the tv and people around me like it will make a iota of difference to their lives, getting oranges might be more expensive. Its all illusory isnt it
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-09 12:05 [#02497340]
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it makes a difference to who the next prime minister will be
boris and gove are both going for the leadership of the party
it's not really believable that either of them really want to leave the eu
what they want is the support of the tory grassroots so they can win the party leadership
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-06-09 12:16 [#02497344]
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Michael Gove looks like a homosexual nazi officer who pleasures his captives before he executes them
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-09 12:19 [#02497345]
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the jews conquered germany =jewmany jewmany and france decided to merge, with jewmany in dominant position
juda-england begs to join jewmany too jewmany starts eating up other nations all of juda-england's press, government, legal system fall in love with jewmany
a few anti-semites or eccentrics such as george galloway and nigel farage keep up the peasant rebellion against jewmany's rule
jewmany has things like health care and benefits, free money, lots of jobs and stuff
jewmany's end goal is the destruction of christianity and beginning a true slavery of the white race
nobody gives a fuck about the big picture as long as things seem normal today
so expect more muslims in power, more christians in prison, and the more general bullshit
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2016-06-09 12:27 [#02497348]
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as I was saying,
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-09 12:37 [#02497352]
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By this stage in his long life, the Jews and England were so conjoined in his mind that he frequently hyphenated 'Juda-England' into one word. In a recently-discovered series of letters written in his last year at Doorn, he declared Germany to be the land of monarchy and therefore of Christ; England the land of Liberalism and therefore of Satan and Antichrist. Germany's real enemy was not the British people but the English ruling classes, who were 'Freemasons thoroughly infected [durchseucht] by Juda.' 'The British people must be liberated from the Antichrist Juda', he wrote in 1940. 'We must drive [vertreiben] Juda out of England just as he has been chased [verjagd] out of the Continent.' It was the Jews and Freemasons who had twice --- in 1914 and again in 1939 --- unleashed a war of Vernichtung against Germany with the aim of establishing an international Jewish empire held together by British and American gold. But then God intervened and smashed their plan!' 'Juda's plan has been smashed to pieces and they themselves swept [weggefegt] out of the European Continent!' Now the Continent was 'consolidating and closing itself off from British influences after the elimination [Entledigung] of the British and the Jews!' The result would be a 'U.S. of Europe!', he cried in triumph.' To his sister he wrote in jubilation: 'The hand of God is creating a new World & working miracles . ... We are becoming the U.S. of Europe under German leadership, a united European Continent, nobody ever hoped to see.' And he added, with undisguised satisfaction: 'The Jews [are] beeing [sic] thrust out of their nefarious positions in all countries, whom they have driven to hostility for centuries.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-06-09 12:40 [#02497353]
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sounds like something "dog the bounty hunter" in one of his less lucid moments would say
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-09 12:45 [#02497354]
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I suppose the heart of it all is a conflict between Christianity and Judaism. But we Christians or ex-Christians have been conditioned to recoil from looking at the truth of the matter. We don't want Christian monarchy to come back. We don't want to be mean to the Jews. We don't have any guts to stand up to the Jews again after the mess that Hitler made. So what we get instead is burying our heads in the sand. It's that or go crazy. I can understand why people would choose the non-crazy option.
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chachmaster3000
on 2016-06-09 12:50 [#02497355]
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UK, the origin of white trash. Vote no you fucking dummies
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-09 13:09 [#02497356]
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Europe was a collection of Christian nations with a King running each country. French revolution, blammo, good bye monarchy. Today's Europe is anti-christ, anti-nation state, anti-monarchy.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2016-06-09 20:10 [#02497398]
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yeah, popping up just to say that i just got the subject of the topic, thought you was going to leave europe and stuff
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-10 22:49 [#02497520]
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a lot of the leavers sound crazy
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-10 22:56 [#02497521]
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anyone link me to decent leave article or anything?
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-10 22:59 [#02497522]
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im feeling that we should stay mostly it would piss off russia
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-11 07:41 [#02497532]
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Christian Europe, USA, & Russia have no reason to piss each other off. Only Jews promote anti-Russian activities
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2016-06-11 08:12 [#02497533]
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hey umbro u up early,or u no sleep if i could vote i'd vote stay, as much as I'd perverse like to see what would happen
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2016-06-11 09:36 [#02497537]
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In or out? It doesn't matter you'll be screwed by the gouvernement anyway.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2016-06-11 09:54 [#02497538]
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well duh
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2016-06-11 14:46 [#02497547]
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BREXIT THE MOVIE
Economists for Brexit
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2016-06-11 15:22 [#02497548]
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Out. Apart from Spain, which I love, I fucking hate Europe. I'm actually proud our stout football supporters in Marseille are chanting "Fuck off Europe, we're voting out"
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2016-06-11 17:33 [#02497550]
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So why care. .stupid waist of time and money.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-11 18:50 [#02497556]
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ill really try and watch that cliff but its very depressing. 'we the people' 'bullied' and 'dictatorship' all within the first 3 mins? gonna be hard to get thru.
(they say the bbc are scaremongers lol)
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-11 18:57 [#02497557]
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i think u should reconsider. stay in europe LAZY_TITLE Dominic Cummings cant answer the basic questions. also a major prick.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-11 19:07 [#02497558]
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so outers think footy hools are telling it like it is? now that looks thick and racist
boris johnson coffins
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-11 19:09 [#02497559]
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i told you about Sam Harris. great guy but instead you went full Pat Condell
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-11 19:16 [#02497560]
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overall i feel leave has played things the most dishonestly. ill keep looking
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-12 01:30 [#02497575]
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LAZY_TITLE maybe the best debate and Dan Hannan makes some points for leave
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2016-06-12 01:34 [#02497576]
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To be honest, anyone thinking of staying really ought to just look at what a complete cock Cameron has made of himself - First threatening to leave, strong arming it about how we could be ok without them, before his pitiful attempt at reform. To then spouting how much he has secured for us, and the devastating effect it'll have if we leave, like were almost black mailed into staying, despite him gloating about how in his first term the economy rose more than any other EU country, as if that is a good light on the EU overall.
The worst still is that he actually has repeatedly mentioned how flawed and frustrating the EU are, and that he has no idea of what he'll do if we leave.
The bloke isn't worthy of Prime Minister, and is just a corporate puppet.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-12 01:45 [#02497578]
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LAZY_TITLE cliff sit thru this bit for 5 mins its interesting.
yeah i know. dont like cameron much at all and wish i had a good labour to look to for a remain campaign honestly. anyway i dont think hes a puppet or anything because hes risked a lot to back remain (bet he wished labour were doing remain so he didnt have to).
the parts of camerons government that were always the worst ones are now challenging his leadership. they are backing leave largely to further themselves i thought. duncan smith and boris are transparent. worse than cameron for me
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-06-12 01:53 [#02497579]
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umbroman why are you rightwing?
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2016-06-12 02:08 [#02497580]
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Actually I don't think he knows what he is doing, although risky of course.
I see a split within Labour and Tories over this with only a consistency for UKIP, which could make the difference.
If we leave I think both parties will have lost a lot of credibility, and if we stay Cameron will have lost a lot of Tory support.
Will check out the link tomorrow when sober! Thanks.
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freqy
on 2016-06-12 03:45 [#02497587]
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so many people have Stockholm syndrome , they literally will support the people that are beating them up and doing them wrong. Because they think it will lessen their overall suffering to be nice and friendly; and that no alternative reality could exist because the criminals say there is no future if the captives try to walk or run away.
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2016-06-12 09:43 [#02497590]
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I do think, on the day, I'll bottle it and vote "Remain". I guess the thing is, it's not just about me. But the EU needs to concentrate on doing practical, beneficial things and less of this creepy "project" of no-borders and eroding individual nations. Sweden is a nightmare scenario but you get the feeling that, in the eyes of the EU, Sweden's the template.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2016-06-12 12:39 [#02497593]
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Ehhhh.... I would like to find a non-bonkers, sober and objective news source for what's going on in Sweden because it's... worrisome.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-06-12 17:33 [#02497612]
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If we leave the EU i still want us to keep our membership in the federation
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freqy
on 2016-06-12 18:57 [#02497627]
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They are going unveil a proposal for an EU army soon after the referendum
Wt? who are they planning to fight?
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2016-06-12 19:08 [#02497633]
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People that disagree with them? The "wrong sort" of European? White , non-hasidic people?
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