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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2013-12-11 22:17 [#02465233]
Points: 11005 Status: Regular | Followup to jnasato: #02465218
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I wouldn't go so far to dismiss the outside world or material goods. These things can indeed bring happiness and it would be very akward to tell a homeless person that material goods won't make him somehow happy.
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2013-12-12 05:05 [#02465236]
Points: 3393 Status: Regular | Followup to Monoid: #02465233 | Show recordbag
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Yah, all relative with regard to physical goods.
But- rich man, poor man, fit man, cripple man, handsome man, monstrosity of bad proportions man-- in moments of stillness, we are all the same and experience the same obscure aspect of consciousness that we perceive as Life itself. What appreciation of Life we can realize in stillness when all superficial aspects are shed, are the gifts of true Happiness that we are capable of.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-12-12 07:33 [#02465237]
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saying "you should be able to find happiness in solitary confinement or ur doing it wrong" is not only taking it too far, it's downright dangerous advice to give to a guy that clearly needs to get out more.... i mean, what about other people? friends, love, all that? isn't that outside of you? it's a gaping hole in your logic, sir. goatse-sized, even.
material goods are temporary happiness, but so is everything else. people die, break up, whatever. it's OK to splurge to cheer yourself up sometimes, as long as that's not all you have. it should be one nice thing in a multifaceted life stuffed to the brim with different cool fings.
being happy is maintenance and proportion, really. you make yourself unhappy doing hard things to develop discipline so you can have more good things, but then a day is just pure shit, so, fuck it, buy something you can't afford and play GTA all day, get drunk. the next day, get back to the plan.
"Remember-- you are always experiencing your own consciousness and only your own consciousness. You have never experienced anything other than yourself, ever."
prove it!!!
and here's this. the music describes really specific dance hand motions to my mind, for which you make a 3D box by placing your hands in various sequential configurations; i am learning it
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2013-12-12 12:32 [#02465239]
Points: 3393 Status: Regular | Followup to EpicMegatrax: #02465237 | Show recordbag
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As for "prove it!!!"-- it's more like prove that you have ever experienced anything that is outside of you. But also, that's like asking me to prove that strawberries exist. I can shove it in your face and source some wikipedia strawberry entry, but it means nothing.
As for the beginning bit... Yah, "superficial stuffs" are good and required, to get to the deeper goods. In that sense, they are just a necessity that can go wrong. But monoid is obviously intelligent; possibly too intelligent for his own sake. Being too much in one's head can be bad, especially if one is trying to cope with the outside world. Miserable cuz outside world not figured out-- gotta get outside head and sort outside, from the outside. Inner mind too fucked even though outside world is sweet-- gotta escape outside, go inside, sort self out.
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RussellDust
on 2013-12-12 15:54 [#02465240]
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It's actually nice to see people still engaging with you. I like this place.
"Remember-- you are always experiencing your own consciousness and only your own consciousness. You have never experienced anything other than yourself, ever."
I can understand that but i can understand Epic too. We all dip in to this general 'idea space'. Call it what you want. Explain it how you want. It's something most artists seem to agree on.
It was Alan Moore who pointed out that within the space of 2 weeks, way back when, all of a sudden many people came up with the steam engine idea. Nothing for yonks and all of a sudden various people from various parts of the world all pick up on this idea, within days. It's definitely interesting.
Also i'm pretty sure most of you reading this have had an idea they never followed through only to see someone else pick up..
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-12-12 16:33 [#02465241]
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i was just being cheeky; i'm fairly solipsist myself. jnasato is simply so absolute.... all of this shit should be considered a work in progress, probably forever.
i like where you've taken it, though. i remember when i got into all the old detroit stuff, with DJ mixes and sampling and nicking each others' ideas, i had this vision of detroit techno as this giant abstract structure with lots of guys crawling around and welding more stuff onto it; rearranging bits. what's lovely about music is that it's non-destructive; not like graffiti where stuff gets painted over.
the simultaneous invention doesn't really light my tits on fire. smart guys follow the latest science, you know? at some point, a key bit of research falls into place. a bunch of guys read it at once and all see the next step at once. but, yeah, the shared scientific knowledge base is similar to detroit techno.
proper synchronicities are a bit of a head-scratcher, though. i enjoy trying to foment them.
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nrutas
on 2013-12-12 22:23 [#02465250]
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Mao is celebrity on the late night tv.
seed money lulz
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nrutas
on 2013-12-13 01:31 [#02465251]
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Discover the truth through practice Cronauer
And again through practice verify and develop the truth.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2013-12-14 10:55 [#02465263]
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One day, i will only be able to talk to mental health specialists like some people can only get it up for a whore.
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twigclanx
from twatsville on 2014-04-06 08:34 [#02469623]
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like some people can only get it up for DUBturbo.
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Moot
from Antarctica on 2014-04-09 16:00 [#02469740]
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"Psychotherapy makes you stupid. As soon as you think your mentally ill, you have no obligation to change anything. No
responsibillity for your own well being or course of life. "
Monoid in a nutshell. Any excuse for being miserable will do.
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