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envelopes are no problem what's this malarky about 6 square wave oscillators ive tried everything going and still cant get it right on reaktor or modulars. one bloke reckons you tune them to different frequencies so that all the harmonics add up to fill the spectrum thus creating noise (is this right?). another geezer claims that the specific frequencies dont matter, which doesnt match with what im hearing (obviously you cant tune all the oscs to 20KHz...) ppl suggesting fm? |
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they need to be band pass filtered and tuned independently, at least that's what I've done when using that approach |
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the 808 hat circuit apparently has a weird logical 'OR' thing going its 6 mixed square waves ( at 1, 1.3420, 1.2312, 1.6532, 1.9523, 2.1523 ratios of tune - thats what ive got in my patch anyway ) but after they're mixed ( with max amp of 6.0: cos its potentially 1.0+1.0...etc. ) they go thru: IF ( signal == 6.0 ) OR ( signal == 2.0 ) OR ( signal == 1.0 ) output=1.0 ( otherwise output = 0.0 ) ( actually each one of these is scaled independently ) that's the bit that gets it noisy(er) then Resonant LP and steep R HP |
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any interesting tweaks that makes the hihat sound different/cool but still retaining some of the integrity that makes the original so appealing? |
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there was a standaloen program that came with fruityloops 3 or something called 'drumsynth' where you could do 808 style drums quite easily, think it even had some presets that were in that vein. havent touched it for years though. |
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pretty sure each hi hat is supposed to have the wave starting point offset, as the 808 had one osc running continuously for hi-hats which was not tied to the tempo. (which is prolly what that guy meant about having 6 different oscs) preferably you'd want these running in a kind of round-robin for the most accurate emulation. this is also great to synthesizing humanized hihat structures, since no hi hat played IRL would sound exactly the same with each hit. |
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Put donk to level 7, and hiss to level 23. |
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i prefer to just leave my "donk" knob maxed out at 11, no matter what. |
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Drum synth? All those types of software dont use 6 oscillators. They use a special module called "metal" or something é like that. Probably 6 oscillators that can't be controlled. How shit is that for learning how it works! I found one solution. Use 6 pwm oscillators, tuned between 1KHz and 2 KHz. Play them through 1 or 2 bandpass filters. Osc PWM can be slowly modulated. Then mix in some noise, digital or analogue depending on your taste. But this sounded like shit in reaktor. Sounded great on my 2 analogue modulars (6 oscs) and in cooledit 2 (generated 6 waves then filtered + enveloped them manually) It wasn't exactly like an 808 but it was the same type of cymbal / hat type of vibe. About halfway between a casiotone (plinky plonky) and a real 808. Using up 6 oscs is a bitch though! No room for basslines or leads! If someone mentions rigging up 6 555 timers I will start throwing punches around here. |
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wat about 3 556 timers m8 |
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true but it was good fun when you didnt know jack shit about what an envelope even was 10 years ago |
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I've got a Combinator I made in Reason of 3 x Subtractor layered that works on 808 HH synthesis principles (even if the end result sounds like a generic synthetic 'percussion' sound, rather than an emulation of the 808. If you use Reason (V4 or up) put your email and I'll send you a copy. |
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curious about this reason thing, ceri! send it to melack27 gmail if you want to share, thanks |
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Yo Ceri - hook me up with that Reason patch too. steven(at)stvn.net I'm in a electro-project where we use Reason, and this could come in pretty handy |
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can someone tell me how to use a counter like a 4520 to do a moog-style suboscillator |
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Melack/Junktion, sure gents, will send it over shortly. I spent a about an hour searching for it today until I realised I'd said "reason 4 and up" for a reason and it's on my other machine. :) I will dig it out in the next few days and send it over. |
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nice, thank you mate! |
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Resent in V4. |
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not received... |
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try shoving it up your ass and claiming youre gay, then sell a promo 12" that another member had kindly sent you on ebay for free. dickhead. |
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Should be, I sent it to your hotmail (IE replied to your last email) Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 17:30 Subject: Re: Reason Percussive Sound Combinator Attachment was as a .zip this time as multiple files, just in case that alters your spam folder rules. Resent now (to both addresses) just in case. :/ |
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thank you ceri, i had received it the first time, i just started doing other things and totally forgot about it :S im begging to worry about my mind state... |
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