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down aint it? |
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It goes up and down. I like this situation mostly because it gave me a chance to read very valuable material. Very informative. |
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I'm not really interested in what information has been leaked, but on what ground is he searched for now? Suspect in a rape incident or spreading information -someone else- has leaked. Besides, isn't he in the UK now, talking to the police? |
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yeah hes a rapist, po-po here are talking to him about his rapes details can be found leaked on wikileaks, if only, how ironic would that be! |
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There's many different aspects to wikileaks all of which you can be for or against. |
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boring |
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internet = instant gratification machine |
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Nah it's just that you sounded a little bit like elusive right there |
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i like radishes more |
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pro im certain platforms like this should exist, because it can provide important information. no more secrets |
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I think there's certain things wrong with Asange and his openness about the organization. For me that was illustrated by him walking out on that CNN interview because he didn't want to answer question about his functioning as the managing director. I'm elusive maybe because on the internet he's revered as a god and no questions are allowed. Which I think is ridiculous because it goes against principles you'd attribute to something like wikileaks. |
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I'd say things like are more important and interesting than Assange's personal details even if he conducts his board meetings in a donkey costume. But of course big's function as an agent of the lamestream media is to focus attention away from issues and onto Assange as though he were a Big Brother house guest. |
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Yes, like that ^_^ I want to deal with those issues to focus on the documents better. I'm talking about how wikileaks functions. Since wikileaks could be an important and dangerous tool, that's not unimportant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoKcOOYFszs&feature=related |
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must read |
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These ridicoulous rape charges never would have happened under strict sharia law, which we will impose on the infidel insha'Allah. |
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There are leaks because governments, banks, etc., they all have something they don't want us to know. There shouldn't be nothing to hide. You wanna stop Wikileaks? Stop hiding information. /thread |
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Leaks? I'm not detecting any leaks. |
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not welsh, prefer onions myself. |
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embarrassing officials by revealing curupt illegal practices is fine because it gives us clearer picture of what sort of outragious shit going on. but when the leaks involve sensitive political plans; like the reunification of north korea. then i'm sort of agaisnt it...because allot of this information needs classification for our own safety |
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I had a diarrhea leak several months ago, which made me realize that I had to get my diet in check. Though perhaps knowing such information has taken away the safety net of ignorance, and now I'm in a world of danger and tight anus doom. |
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it all depends on what is leaking |
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This isn't a black or white issue. Personally I am all for making government transparent, but I am against information being leaked that could put the public at risk. |
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Seems that the media got control of you and your fears. |
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wankyleaks |
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for, yeah why not |
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Sometimes it's bad to do truth. A bad man sometimes could take that truth and hurt a little baby. That's bad! Do you want to hurt a little baby? |
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after the release date before takes fun out of it |
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Political boards have posts about electronic music. |
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On the wikileaks topic, I am hardly anything other than indifferent. Is that what the media is trying to get people to feel now? |
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No. but you said: "I am against information being leaked that could put the public at risk", that's exactly what the white house and media are saying right now.. |
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As fleetmouse says, it's neither here nor there what Julian Assange has been up to. Read the actual things that are affecting you lives. |
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Right. And before that I said that its not a black or white issue. I also said that government should be more transparent. I don't know how you got me being controlled by the media through my fears. Maybe you should read peoples comments a bit more carefully before making judgments on their character. |
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You probably don't mean it like that, but "it's not all black and white" is doublespeak used by the mainstream media to create fake balanced debates between one radical opinion and its much more accepted and advantaged contradictors. Sorry it's a reasonable opinion but it's kind of hard not to scoff at it. |
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that's might not be good experience. |
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exactly |
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i pretty much said the same thing as taxidermist earlier, i like seeing some thigns exposed but it doesn't take a genious to see the danger of certain info being let out. as i said before info has leaked about china's plans to reunify north korea, basicaly getting rid of the current totalitarian regime. NK were testing nucluer bombs in 2005, and the US have satalite images of more buildings being contructed in their nuclear complex. They put most of there spending power into their military rather than helping support their own people, so yu can make a judgement that these nucluer sites are also used to make bombs and not just energy. you only have to think about this for yourself to make the opinion. if you choose not to believe anything you see or read, than that is your own choice. the information is there you just have to decide for yourself. I normaly don't bother with allot of polital world news, but on this subject i take an interest.. |
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Anytime an issue becomes polarized in one direction or another, its important to remind people that there is usually a grey area worth considering. I hadn't realized the mainstream media had picked up on that term because I don't pay attention to the mainstream media. I find it kind of hard to believe, seeing as they usually make polarization into their thing, but I'm certainly not going to stop using a phrase because its become a hot term on cnn. |
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Compromise is best. When science man say we come from monkeys and Bible man say we come from dirt, compromise man say we come from dirty monkeys. |
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how do you guys weigh in on the 4chan/anonymous war going as a result of "cablegate?" anon has attacked groups before, shutting down the scientology website once, and harassed numerous people they just didn't like, but this is the first time there has been a real cause behind any of their actions. this was just released: we are viewing the first battles in a completely new kind of war, people! more so than 9/11, more than anything else i have experienced, this is the moment in history which people will pour over and study for decades to come. for the first time, we are seeing the full power of the information masses harnessed, achieving one deed - it's beautiful, almost like an ant colony, except without a queen. what transpires after this will define the state of information in the 21st century. |
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Also wikileaks did put people in danger with the Afghan warleaks, blacking out informants names while it was easy enough to deduct who they actually were. I feel wikieaks has learned from that, working closer with the media this time and not letting everything leak at once. But you pretty much won't hear Asange say that, because he doesn't like criticism. Also the insurance file is basically a threat to do the same thing again. All in all though, I'm for. If wars erupt over these leaks, then it's still the countries at war that are guilty. |
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Let's fight for freedom of speech by silencing the people we disagree with! |
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i know the diplomat comms are embarrassing, but if anything aren't the cables pro-US propaganda? this is exactly how i felt upon reading them - and yet for some reason i haven't heard/read anyone else bring up this angle. to me, they seemed like clever propaganda. the US has all this intel on why the world is so dangerous, but can never talk about it in the open/public. with the cables leaked, everyone can find out just how dangerous some parts of the world still are, how much crazy shit is going on (russia/italy coziness), and a host of other issues. a lot of people seem to insinuate that the world is in bad shape because the US is stirring up the bee hives/etc. example - they say if we just pack up and leave iraq/afg. then everything will suddenly become stable -- as if the only reason shit is crazy over there is because we're there and they want us out. but after reading some of the cables, it almost made me feel like we do need a solid presence there, because the world really is crazy. anti-US views aside, did anyone else get this impression? there's a lot of embarrassing bits in there to give the US a black eye, but if you drill down and look at the current state of affairs, it's a little troubling imho. i have a lot of opinions about what the US is doing, but upon reading this i almost feel like a lot of it is warranted in some aspects. |
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lol |
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Yes, an respected dutch author said it in a column in my paper, that'd Asange must be on the CIA's paylist. He more said it as a joke though. Also I've seen said Israel was behind the leaks. It's all regular conspiracy though. So plausible if you disregard a lot of facts, and really unplaisible, because the leaks are bad for the US and there's no reason to think Asange is a government tool. |
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you have to keep shooting the bads because they hate your freedumbs |
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i only insinuated that it gives everyday citizens a look at the harsh realities and current states of many areas of the world - that otherwise are kept private. how can you read into my original post that the US or affiliate somehow purposely leaked them is beyond me. |
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I would have to disagree with that, at least partly. If wikileaks is going to be posting information that was not designed to be publicly available, they need to take a certain amount of responsibility in making sure the information can't directly be used in a harmful manner. Then again, if someone wanted to start a war and they do it with info garnered from wikileaks, chances are that person would try to use some other source if wikileaks weren't in the picture. |
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Well, what if things are one way. I respectfully suggest that's cause for concern but ultimately OK. And if things are some other way, then that's OK too, but also cause for concern. |
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