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wavephace
from off the chain on 2010-12-11 03:25 [#02400822]
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i hope wikileaks makes the biggest change's in the world since the last 100+ years......(for the forces of good int he world)
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rezpeni
on 2010-12-11 09:13 [#02400831]
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this is maybe the most rational discussion I've read on this whole issue. you guys give me faith in humanityz.
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big
from lsg on 2010-12-11 10:07 [#02400835]
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elusive: it must have been the word propaganda that gave me the wrong idea.
i think one only would see the leaks as good propaganda for the US if they already believe in the role of policeman for the US
Taxidermist: I draw the line at putting individuals at harm anyway.
If the wikileaks indirectly start a war than it really proves why wikileaks needs to exist: because these documents shouldn't exist in the first place.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2010-12-11 18:38 [#02400886]
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you're right - that word was mis-used.
i meant that in regards to myself --- i felt a sudden "pro US" feeling as i was reading about all of the serious shit going on that the rest of the world has been completely unaware of.
i know the US has a stretched empire...many forward deployed bases, etc...and how many are against that. me too in certain regards (e.g. being stretched too thin) --- but upon reading the leaks it almost made all of that feel justified or at least that it was being done with reason....vs thoughtless empire expansion. do you see now my point?
it was extremely hard to communicate it in person (the depth/vectors of it) to my friend, let alone trying to convey it in text without having the opposing reader read it as shallowly as possible and decide what they thought i meant
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olaabaza
from Mauritius on 2010-12-13 16:54 [#02401137]
Points: 575 Status: Regular | Followup to -crazone: #02400671
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lol Yes... the make-up and consistency of the leaks matter here.
As a sociology/politics student though - this is GOLD.
But not the expensive kind.
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