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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-10 09:19 [#02152767]
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im a bit out of the electronica loop lately and haven't got a clue what they're up to lately..anything good? it may happen i'll have to interview them so if you have any questions please forward them : )
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optimus prime
on 2007-12-10 09:27 [#02152771]
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'why did you lose your shit.'
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-10 09:29 [#02152773]
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good one..pretty much the only question i'll need
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2007-12-10 09:33 [#02152779]
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Tekkon Kinkreet OST (2006) = fabulous
I'm also one of those few people who liked (most of) Greedy Baby.
you may HAVE TO interview them?? oh, the punishment inflicted on the unworthy!
Ask them if they have any new full-scale collaborative or soundtrack projects on the horizon, or is it going to be a studio album next.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-10 09:35 [#02152782]
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i haven't heard tekkon kinkreet..i heard greedy but it sounded pretty much like everything else i've heard by them..have to indeed, as im pretty much the only one interested in this sort of electronica around here heh
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2007-12-10 09:46 [#02152787]
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make that two
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Chihiro
from twins land on 2007-12-10 10:51 [#02152812]
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havent heard about them in a while yeah!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-10 10:55 [#02152816]
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it shows nacmat isn't around here much lately doesn't it : )
btw, i currently can't use my slsk so hi to you chihiros
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Chihiro
from twins land on 2007-12-10 10:59 [#02152820]
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*takes scalp off and waves big hellos*
slsk has been failing on me too at times lately, its weird-ish :)
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-12-10 11:03 [#02152825]
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tekkon kinkreet is really really good. it is still sinking in but i think it might be their best release.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2007-12-10 12:22 [#02152863]
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dear god NO!
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Resident Evil
from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2007-12-10 12:27 [#02152869]
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can tekkon kinkreet be purchased online for cheapish? i can only find amazon for $46 us dollars :O even the official plaid site links to amazon.com :(
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xkejjer
from Malta on 2007-12-10 12:28 [#02152870]
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tekkon kinkreet and greedy baby were quite brilliant, in my opinion. especially greedy baby.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2007-12-10 13:01 [#02152881]
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i think that the track 'super positions' off Greedy Baby is one of their best tracks... that said, it's far from my favourite album on the whole.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-12-10 13:02 [#02152883]
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ya rly.
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optimus prime
on 2007-12-10 13:03 [#02152886]
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best album: double bubble trouble figure.
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mrgypsum
on 2007-12-10 16:26 [#02152940]
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they have one song available for download on bleep, faster
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mrgypsum
on 2007-12-10 16:27 [#02152942]
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which is rather newish, sounds like it could have been made recently.
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nacmat
on 2007-12-10 16:42 [#02152944]
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I am not much into plaid lately but trainer is still a masterpiece in my book
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nacmat
on 2007-12-10 16:43 [#02152945]
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I would ask them:
dont you guys think you are getting way too cheesy?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-10 16:55 [#02152947]
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well, isn't cheesy (in a good way) all there is to their music?
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optimus prime
on 2007-12-10 16:56 [#02152948]
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yes! that's it! that's the question!
'isn't cheesy all there is to your music?'
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-10 17:07 [#02152955]
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i'll put it nicer, like; "would you say there's more than cheese to your music?"
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-12-10 20:07 [#02152970]
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http://xltronic.com/mb/95238/0
tolstoyed watch "Tekkon kinkreet" its a good anime' and watch the xtras the plaid interview will crack you up
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-12-10 22:26 [#02152977]
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besides the tekkon diskreet soundtrack and faster, 2007 has seen quite a few old the black dog re-releases, all featuring plaid.
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2007-12-11 03:56 [#02153001]
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Plaid cheesy? Surely you jest. Ed and Andy have been "releasing" music since 1988 or so, they've been around the block quite a few times. If you want to see what Plaid has been up to, just go to their website and click the link to their myspace page (official fanpage).
Tekkon is amazing. Their remix of Lavender Oil is awesome. The new Balil remix is outstanding.
It's a shame people don't talk about them like they do Aphex and AE (blah, same old junk). Plaid have an insane ear for music composition, be it melodies or rhythm. Their drum-programming was top notch back when they emphasized it. They made quite possibly the greatest Trance song ever in Parasight (LAWL Plaid and Trance together).
Did everyone download The Black Dog Live torrent Phobia hosted on here a ways back? They played a few Plaid tracks as well as some Black Dog stuff.
Sorry I went off on a tangent here, but since I've been visiting and lurking these forums Plaid never got the credit they deserve.
Oh and a question to ask them if you get an interview. Ask them to bust out their old equipment (or some of it) like the stuff used on the new Balil remix and ask them to put together a Balil/Atypic/Tura release on the side when their bored or something. :]
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nacmat
on 2007-12-11 04:21 [#02153002]
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what i love:
pbrane ep trainer compilation dial p peel session
what I like:
not for threes rest proof clockwork double figure
the rest I dont really care
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-11 07:02 [#02153016]
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i like those early black dog records a lot. and i wasn't kidding about them being cheesy in their own way..and i agree on their ear for composition, it's just that they're stuck with that particular form throughout their whole career. it's like rearanging same song over and over again, lacks creativity and it's very predictable..but that's due to their interest in pop form i guess so it doesn't bother me, it's just why im not as interested in them as i am in ae or rdj. i bought all their records up until couple of releases ago so there, i guess i like them : )
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-12-11 07:55 [#02153023]
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i really like plaid. took me awhile, but theyre good as. as for the cheesy comment, they do have a particular sound really cheerful bright sound, which is pretty unique to plaid, and i have to say.. its pretty cheesy. good though!
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2007-12-11 09:17 [#02153034]
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they're the mozzarella of cheese!
no, mozzarella is the mozzarella of cheese...
what are they then?
I like them a lot. They have an interest in joy and happiness.
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2007-12-11 11:48 [#02153079]
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Where are you getting this "cheesyness" from? I mean, what are you talking about? If were talking new music instead of the late 90s/early 2000s I still don't see it.
Have you listened to the Tekkon OST? Is a song like "Where?" cheesy? White's Dream? Or maybe the breaks driven Rat's Step. I won't disagree that they have been rooted in a style since Spokes (Tekkon is not the same as Spokes and Greedy Baby).
I guess the thing that really irritated me here is the fact an AE thread can have over 200+ replies or an AFX song can get 20+, but when you have someone like Plaid who has released music be it through Plaid, Black Dog, w/e longer than AFX or AE have a struggle to find anything about them on a consistent (I use that loosely) basis. And that's with Ed and Andy having a much bigger catalogue then either. They do more production work (even today!) and there's less about them.
Give credit where credit is due. Is there a better remixer out there? If so I haven't heard one, Reload/Global Communication come close, but not close enough. With all they have done production wise (which is a lot more than any of the "holy trinity of IDM") it's just laughable that people will call them cheesy or say they don't like them at all.
It's like dude.....these guys are orginators of an era and are still truckin along nicely today and it comes down to whimsical comments?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-11 11:58 [#02153083]
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'where' sounds extremly cheesy to me i must say so does 'white's dream'..it's really pointless to go on..their melodies and song creating is just cheesy but that doesn't mean it's bad. they have their own aesthetics which is a big
bonus, it's just so happens that their style suits my taste less than ae or aphex, that's all there is to it. it's nice to hear an occassional song here and there but to listen to the album in whole may be a bi tough as my attention drops..i do appreaciate what they do and have done in the past, but i don't find their music all that exciting what can i say : )
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2007-12-11 12:11 [#02153088]
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I don't want to talk specifics on a song, even though I disagree, but the vibe I get from most on this board is that since their music structure is based around melodies rather than sound experimentation a la AE or just mental crazyness of some Squarepusher and AFX it's cheesy.
And I just have to ask then, is Boards of Canada cheesy with their production being based around nostalgia? They emphasize melodies a lot too.
If that's the case slap them in the same boat as BT doing music for Britney Spears or the trash that Tiesto plays. Adiago of Cheese anyone?
But yeah, I'm out of touch with music tastes on this forum (a B12 thread over 100 replies, maybe there's hope), so with that I take my leave.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-11 12:21 [#02153091]
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well, boards are cheesier imo but that doesn't mean their music isn't comfy to listen to sometimes : )
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-12-11 12:29 [#02153094]
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although i really love their older work (and listen to it on a day to day basis), their newer work just dulls me. i regret having bought spokes. greedy baby has one (really!) good track - super positions - while the rest sounds worse than spokes. and tekkon, o god no. it was good for the movie, but on its own - no friggin way. that new track, i listened to it once on bleep but it's just too much like the rest.
i've said it before on this forum and i'll repeat myself here: listening to new plaid is like reading an alternate version of a book you already know through and through. it may be a clever written book with excellent style, but it's just the same old story.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2007-12-11 13:21 [#02153111]
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i would say i consider them top-most geniuses, and if by cheese what is meant is superficiality then i don't see that all... the glitchy aesthetic of the idm scene is in their music less prominent, which means they are easy to dismiss, but from a point of view of harmonic progression, they are in a class of their own.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-12-11 18:09 [#02153215]
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listen to revpersona
and goDel is da man_
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2007-12-12 02:55 [#02153288]
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You'll have to forgive me, I've been in transition between places. I still have your email with info, I haven't forgotten. Let me get settled here and I can take care of that for you.
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2007-12-12 04:28 [#02153300]
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Very well said revpersona!
I just don't get why people feel the urge to talk about something they do not like or tear an artist down because it's not up their alley. Don't play the music when you do not like it.
I haven't seen much questions either.. and that's what this topic is about.
When I was about to interview them I'd ask if they have a recoding from their live performance in Amsterdam at the Warpnight as it was the best live gig I witnessed ever.
A few questions for Tolstoyed. - You guys did a few performances during the Warp London Synfionetta tour. Will any of this music be released somewhere in the future?
- Are there plans for a new film score?
- How did you guys hit upon the idea to make a track about the Mexican hero, Superbarrio?
- What is there to see on the tiny negative which is packed with Greedy Baby?
-When did you guys quit your dayjob to become fulltime musicians? (don't know if they had dayjobs)
- Any plans being made for a new album?
- Any specific reason why you choose Plaid as a bandname?
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-12-12 04:33 [#02153302]
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- How many of the fake tuss tracks are you responsible for?
*warning* probably an incredibly cliched question by this point.
- Being pretty old school warp peeps, how do you feel about their change of direction with all the attention to indie bands AND SUCH
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-12 04:41 [#02153306]
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thanks aesthetics..i forgot to mention we have a time limit of 20 minutes per interview so i need to make the best out of that time : )
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-12-12 05:00 [#02153309]
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probably best you stick with a 'is plaid cheesy' themed interview.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-12 05:05 [#02153311]
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haha..nah, i have lots of respect for them so i won't go into that hehe..it's really pretty pointless too as it all comes down to personal preference : )
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-12 05:06 [#02153312]
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i worked out a few questions..or the way i'd take this interview in me head last night, i just hope i remember all the things i thought of haha
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-12-12 05:15 [#02153313]
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"i just hope i remember all the things i thought of haha "
lol @ innovation
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-12 05:20 [#02153315]
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that looks like a useful thing : ) the things is, i have quite a hard time listening to what they say and reading my notes at the same time..still something i need to work out somehow..
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-12 05:38 [#02153318]
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well, the interview was just confirmed so it's partly going on air this friday at 6pm (unless something goes wrong) and the other part (or complete interview) next thursday at 8 pm. in case someone's interested..
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-12-12 05:38 [#02153319]
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hmm. thats fair enough. you could record it and pay NO attention to what they say at all.. tho that could end in a waynes world style situation : )
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-12 05:40 [#02153320]
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i forgot to mention that's CET : )
and link the link where you can stream it.
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-12-12 05:42 [#02153321]
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I could say anything, like "you're a complete tool". You wouldn't hear, 'cause you're a freak with a microphone.
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