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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-10 12:34 [#00509559]
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Why are you letting this thing wind you up? I'm having a good time yacking and I'm not offended by anyone.
Now go pray to God for peace of mind!
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-01-10 12:34 [#00509560]
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maybe when we do discoverr the answerr, we die, and move onto the betterr place, whateverr it is.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-01-10 12:36 [#00509563]
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if that is gods backside, i dont wanna see devil's ;)
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2003-01-10 12:38 [#00509566]
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To each their own, people are more then one sided funk. Contrary to what you may think, I at least have an open mind, and value other peoples opinions, and dont run out (of what should be a discussion, not an arguement, which you seemed to think this topic is) when I dont like what I am hearing.
Please get a grip funk. Its ok..... deep breathing.... deep breath's. Its going - to - be - ok.
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Iroel
from Pisa (Italy) on 2003-01-10 12:38 [#00509567]
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"but how is poking fun of God, and Jesus respecting Christians beliefs? "
I don`t know...but it happens in politics and philosphy and in any field where there ideological factions at war...
why not religion?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-10 12:38 [#00509568]
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Here is the Devil's frontside, which goes a long way to explaining God's backside.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-01-10 12:40 [#00509571]
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lol @ fleetmouse :)
but this IS offensive, hehe
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-01-10 12:41 [#00509572]
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yeah, it's a calm discussion right... and you're the first one to jump at me, and turn on me, and all that crap...
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-01-10 12:45 [#00509577]
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the only problem with debating about religion, is there is no real right or wrong, just what you belive is right and wrong.
If two people don't agree, tuff shit. That's life guys.
"If everybody looked the same, we'd get tired of looking at eachother" - some song I can't remember =os
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Iroel
from Pisa (Italy) on 2003-01-10 12:50 [#00509582]
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Philosophy is a game with an objective and no rules
Mathemathics is a game with rules and no objective
Religion is the game of making the subjective objective...
Joking apart, I believe that religion is like philosophy, nobody can win because there are no rules...
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Iroel
from Pisa (Italy) on 2003-01-10 12:50 [#00509583]
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It's a purely subjective thing, determined by how one views and interprets reality...
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-10 12:59 [#00509592]
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In other words one should no more call it true and live one's life by it than one would with a style of cooking or a genre of literature.
If you acknowledge that religion is the result of human creativity and has no objective validity outside the mind of the worshiper, then that is fine by me.
Only thing is, some yokels want to legislate sexual morality and biology education based on their ancient book of desert myths! That is not good.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2003-01-10 13:00 [#00509594]
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I didnt ask people why they dont believe in god with a thread that starts out like this: ?!?!?!?!
Seemed like a condesending and rude way to start a discussion.
So cry me a river if you thought that was going to bring intellegent discussion to your thread funk.
When you want a discussion, you present your question in a polite manner, showing no favoratism. Not by useing punctuation with suggests alarm, shock, the !
You shouldnt be surpirsed that someone bit your head off.
Because if I were to start a topic asking why people believe in god, with a: !?!?!?!?!?!
for one thing, I wouldnt do it because its not how you start discussion, and for another, I would get major shit from religious people here doing so.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2003-01-10 13:07 [#00509602]
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oh my my spelling is great. hahahahaha
I mean isnt that what the is suppost to be all about funk, treat others how you want to be treated.
Seems very hypocritical to me, a common theme in some religions IMO
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-01-10 13:17 [#00509614]
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.....its not that i have reasons why i DONT believe in god, but just that i haven't come across a convincing reason TO believe in god
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-01-10 13:17 [#00509616]
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well, you're saying all that based on the idea that I made this thread looking for confrontation, and to prove all atheists wrong... well, you're wrong on that assumption... cause I didn't... shrug, I posted ?!?!?!?!?!?... if you thought I meant that a certain way, good for you... but I didn't... I use exclamation points a lot, so sue me... it didn't seem to bother some people here... some people actually did start some kind of discussion, or at least try to... but hey, it's over with... hopefully when the next moderator comes on, this will be closed...
I really didn't mean anything negative with this thread... and there's no point in coming back with "Well you shouldn't..." or "You should've expected..."... it's already been done in this thread... and I've already made my case about that... so, lets end this here...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-01-10 13:18 [#00509617]
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fair enough...
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-01-10 13:23 [#00509622]
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can't arrgue with that
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Homestar
on 2003-01-10 13:39 [#00509631]
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Can't pwove he exists.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2003-01-10 13:41 [#00509636]
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*does funkmaster impression*
ahhhh.... shrug
no, lets end it right.............
here.
no wait.........
:*P
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Homestar
on 2003-01-10 13:46 [#00509643]
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Why put all youw faith into something that can't be pwoven weal and end up disapointed when you die.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-10 13:48 [#00509647]
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lol, i'm assuming the funkmaster also gets something out of his belief in this life. Using religion just as a ticket to the afterlife is... as i understand it... not what religion is about at all.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-01-10 14:04 [#00509675]
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Fuck God. What a faggot piece of shit...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-10 14:10 [#00509685]
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just let it go.
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herbwest
from Seattle (United States) on 2003-01-10 14:34 [#00509704]
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too put it simply - i don't believe in perfection i don't believe in infinity i don't believe that anything is necessary therefore a creator couldn't exist
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-01-10 15:32 [#00509748]
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theres one thing
ceri mentioned going to church of obligation
well thatd be for the wrong reasons
if i was to honestly believe and devote yourself to spirituality, then im certain i would be a better person for it
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-01-10 15:34 [#00509752]
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yeah you get the idea. i think i just had a bad posting session
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Homestar
on 2003-01-10 15:39 [#00509754]
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It's like asking "how come a peacock has so many feathew's?"
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2003-01-10 15:55 [#00509768]
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I promised not to write in this topic only because I believe in God, I'm not religious I just have faith.
But having faith in anything is ones opinion, I believe there is a devil and there is God.
And I especially dont believe in Evolution, Darwins theory- and anyone who does believe that has a lot of learning to do.....religion doesnt have to be church even though it says in the bible to be around people who believe in the samethings as you..church.
But theres different connection to how you want to express that...but I know I'm a child of God, and I can give you two expamples of how thats so. But I wont screw you all youre going to HELL. one way ticket!
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-01-10 15:59 [#00509772]
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And I especially dont believe in Evolution, Darwins theory-
and anyone who does believe that has a lot of learning to do.....
um, I've been a student of science and evolution and have read several books and studies by very intelligent and well ackomplished scientists, and it is without a doubt the most logical way the human race came to exist. I consider myself an inteligent person, and because this is what I believe dosn't mean 'I have alot of learning to do.
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2003-01-10 16:14 [#00509794]
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Alright, you did your learning.... People can find truth in anything if they want to. you found it in evolution, I find mine elsewhere.
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hAnkyPhexTwin
from Tucson, Arizona (United States) on 2003-01-10 16:22 [#00509801]
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Damn Fleet, I knew i shouldn't have click on that link...I've almost got caught opening the open ass picture when my boss was right behind me...luckly she didn't see.
Why I believe in God, By hAnkyPhexTwin.
--short short short version--
'Cause I do. And was brought up that way.
Fin.
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2003-01-10 16:27 [#00509804]
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MOLTO BENE....you would of been in huge trouble especially if your boss is a she, she would have thought you were a porn freak and taken off internet to the whole company on behalf of you!
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2003-01-10 16:46 [#00509816]
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hmm..
totally disregarding the actual thread topic.. it seems the people of this board (a few in particular) have been wayy too touchy lately..
not just in this thread..but there have been others that have fallen apart into people bickering about something stupid..
a lot of internet discussion forums have rules against discussing religion for just that reason.. it almost always results in people bickering about something stupid..
which, coming back to the topic about atheism.. people's religious beliefs often result in bickering about something stupid.. look at a half the conflicts going on in the world right now.. and the past 1000 years for that matter.. people bickering about god...
and thats just one small reason why atheist people tend to avoid believing in some divine being
oh, and i noticed some people brought up catholicism... note how many atheists were born catholics
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-10 16:57 [#00509835]
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"a lot of internet discussion forums have rules against discussing religion for just that reason.."
well i hope that never happens here! Just becomes something leads to conflict, doesn't mean it's not worth discussing.
Infact that makes it even more worth discussing!
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-10 16:58 [#00509837]
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ehr... "just because something leads to conflict..." that should be.
It's late, i should go to bed :-s
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-01-10 17:02 [#00509844]
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Bah, Christianity is a scheme invented to sell copies of the bible and earn money through church collection plates and various charities and charitable concerts. And it worked!
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-01-10 17:07 [#00509851]
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**** auto-ignore religious subjects ****
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skyfarmer
from a bigger, more complex and tun (Russia) on 2003-01-10 21:40 [#00509999]
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Yeah, it's a shot from Jesus vs The Monster :))))
I also call it Nuclear Jesus...
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-01-10 23:09 [#00510053]
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"Why can't we accept doubt and live with mystery, instead of
invoking myths as mental security blankets? "
i really agree with you there fleetmouse, heres how I see it, religion is just supposed "answers". people believe this because they are either taught to believe it or because everyone else does. if non ones parents ever said\talked about religion I think the world would have less religious wars which have been the cause of most. im not saying that spirituality is wrong but organize religion seems like a big sack of shit, i mean its other people suggesting\telling you what \how\where god is and how for you to act. those are all personal decisions and organizations shouldnt have this influence over people.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-01-10 23:12 [#00510058]
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I also agree with most of surrounded's and qrter's posts(like usual) :)
lots of good points were brought up but religious questions cant be answersed(wll opinions can be stated but nothing more), thats not to say you shouldnt talk about it ever though.
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2003-01-10 23:14 [#00510062]
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yeah, thats the way i've always seen it.. people like definite answers religion=definite answers to questions that can probably never be definitely answered otherwise
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-01-10 23:14 [#00510063]
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the day they shot a hole in the jesus egg......
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-01-11 00:05 [#00510089]
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www.christianburner.com
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-01-11 03:47 [#00510152]
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"And I especially dont believe in Evolution"
Why not? It makes total sence. I can't think of anotherr alterrnative.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-01-11 03:49 [#00510154]
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BUT
that does not mean that therre is no God.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-11 04:29 [#00510181]
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"I also agree with most of surrounded's and qrter's posts(like usual) :)"
hehe, and i thought qrter and i were kind of disagreeing on this one ;-)
"Why not? It makes total sence. I can't think of anotherr alterrnative."
Yes... that's the point. Out of all the theories, evolution makes the most sense. And is also the only one that has some form of proof. (to name but one example: why do humans still have a little tailbone in their skeletons (at the bottom of the spinalchord)... it has to be a little remainder from the time we were still monkeys and had tails).
"But I wont screw you all youre going to HELL. one way ticket!"
lol! Well so much for my point of christians not making fun of the atheists ;-) It's a nasty God who will send you to hell simply for not believing in him... and you call him a God of love. I think alot of atheists would deserve to go to heaven far more than some christians... (not aimed at anyone in particular).
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-01-11 04:43 [#00510196]
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I havent been following this topic much and Im glad I havent. Discussing religion abroad with the public will get you no where. Im going to be ambigious with my religion because I could do with out being told off by some ignorant hypocrite with a pseudo-intellect. Practice your religion or belief and discuss it humbly. At the same time respect the beliefs of others. You shouldnt have to accept anyone elses standpoints, just tolerate them. Unless of course its rooted in violence. But thats besides the point. I knew heated disputes would develop at some point. Its all realtive people. Grow up!
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Glitch
from New Zealand on 2003-01-11 05:01 [#00510219]
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yeah agreed.. . I dont understand why evolution couldnt exist along side god.. . I see evolution all the time but religious people tend to dimiss it.. . its like one or the other with them.. . no way gods creatures can be improved upon now is there :P
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-01-11 05:48 [#00510281]
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people on the street they want to find a god they'll never know organized religion pulls the blinds then they pull the wool they open up your head they're fucking with your mind now you can't see because you're blind you try to make amends but your heads still spinning round the church of jesus christ says it's time don't fuck around you want to go to heaven you see it isn't free give your money up to me
my god is not the one that you wanna to see your god is a mirage a conspiracy you pray for forgiveness cause your sinning scared to death so your money you'll be giving
holier than thou with your one way morality i think your shallow faith isn't based in reality you don't like how were living we're sinful and obscene why are you judging me? you're richer than god but you're crying out for more you're living like a king while you steal from the poor you wanna be forgiven get on your knees and pray send in your cash and be saved better hope you've been chosen to be saved cause your empathy only goes so far today pay no mind to those in pain they just want the souls that are willing to pay their way your god's not for me
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