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offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2002-05-01 06:40 [#00202158]
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before this gets into those he's a satan freak.lets talk
about his music. As I have massive respect for Mr.Richard
JamesI have the same for Manson. His music is amazing. his
lyrics put me through a trance the same way Aphex Twin does.
music is music no matter how you show it

Dana a.k.a future music business major


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2002-05-01 06:42 [#00202160]
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don't really care for him...sorry. never really liked the
music or anything.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-05-01 06:42 [#00202161]
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i liked manson when trent produced his music.

now it's just MTV prop. :(


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-05-01 06:43 [#00202164]
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i agree, i LOVE manson...his concepts are great, and he's
such a visual artist. My fave CD from him is Mechinal
Animals.


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-05-01 06:44 [#00202165]
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and btw...his stuff afterwards sucks...and his upcoming
stuff doesn't "look" so good, but i don't know about the
sound...


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2002-05-01 06:45 [#00202166]
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mtv?? the only way mtv talks about manson is b/c of what he
shows...he doesnt do it for mtv or any of those gay fucking
stations he does it for his fans ...the fight song,you have
to really listen to manson to judge him. Trent has his own
shit, I love trent the same way I love manson. Manson is
just an amazing singer, he really know hows to get to those
people who fear life.


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2002-05-01 06:47 [#00202167]
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remix cd is fucking craazy,,,,chec k it out man.......and
yes i would figure you would like manson since youre a NIN
fan....best ever manson, nin and slipknot. thats all i gotta
say about that, and thanks for agreeing wtih me man.


 

offline corn_mouth from santiago (Chile) on 2002-05-01 06:48 [#00202168]
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portrait of an americhan family kicked my ass back in...was
it 95?...anyway...don´t really care for him after that....

sowie!


 

offline corn_mouth from santiago (Chile) on 2002-05-01 06:48 [#00202169]
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....american family i meant
:)


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2002-05-01 06:54 [#00202175]
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for what its worth,,,,,,,,dont lose faith on the man, he
knows what hes doing....come back to the dark side =)


 

offline corn_mouth from santiago (Chile) on 2002-05-01 06:56 [#00202177]
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hmmmmm......nope.


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2002-05-01 06:59 [#00202179]
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it was a joke man...dont take me seriously and manson
either.damn i love it


 

offline corn_mouth from santiago (Chile) on 2002-05-01 07:01 [#00202180]
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what are you?...boy or girl?


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2002-05-01 07:04 [#00202182]
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girl


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2002-05-01 07:05 [#00202183]
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I see your from chile. my cousins dad is from chile, but
being from miami shes an all cubana like the rest of us.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-05-01 07:19 [#00202189]
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what was the problem? i must have misunderstood

this is a weird tree;

trent reznor -> made manson famous
trent reznor -> has an afx remix on one of his albums
trent reznor -> has 3 AE releases on nothing records
trent reznor -> likes radioheads new music alot
AE -> probably doesnt like thom yorke

thom yorke. what a pig fuck

with that then im going to sleep, goodnight


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-05-01 07:31 [#00202195]
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agreed......antichrist superstar was the only good thing
he's put out IMO

the music for soundtracks he's done has sucked lately

he's an interesting person...when he's just talking
tho....intelligent...i respect that!


 

offline perceptor from North Liberty (United States) on 2002-05-01 07:47 [#00202201]
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I think he is good business man as he knows how to make
money by maniuplating the media. whether the media knows it
or not is a different question. however, that is as far as
my respect goes. I've never been able to get into his music
at all. as far as him being "satan freek", he was probably
called that most by consverative christians who understand
little about the music industry. its sad because these
people did exactly what he wanted them to do. the way I see
it is that they need each other. M.M. gets the attention he
desires and the conservative christians now have a face to
put on their latest hate flyers. a public enemy no. 1 so to
speak. all the while these conservative christians have
forgotten the days when they listened to Kiss or iggy pop.
perhaps if they remembered those days they might understand
that M.M. is going just a little further than those artists
did. I remember listening to bands like benediction,
hypocrisy, and dark funeral so I never really took M.M. that
serious anyway.

take care


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2002-05-01 07:52 [#00202206]
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i was just listening too mechanical animals... my favorite
of his albums... i like his music, not his image tho, its a
big much for me


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-05-01 09:52 [#00202283]
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anyone on this board heard of godhead? the band on man's
label? i *kinda* like their stuff...the vocals are
great../but the high pass filter on every single vox track
was poor production work. and i think that they need to
break the manson mold...they would be really great if they
discovered who they really are...


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-05-01 09:53 [#00202284]
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man=manson


 

offline Mithotyn from Utrecht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-05-01 10:35 [#00202304]
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I'd have to agree to the topic-starter on this one. I've
been a fan of Manson's music _and_ his image (or at least
most of it) since _Antichrist Superstar_. I've been an Aphex
Twin fan since I first heard of him while _Windowlicker_ was
on MTV. I've kind of been growing into experimental
electronic music since then, but my love for 'loud' music
has never suffered under this. Marilyn Manson is still my
no. 1 band. Aphex Twin is my no. 1 electronic 'band'.


 

offline Duble0Syx from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-05-01 12:00 [#00202384]
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I used to love manson. I like/ed NIN first and more.
Anti-Chris was his last good work. And I "Really Listen" to
his music. I though mechanical animals was shit along with
everything after that. Except that cover of Tainted
Love...It's just that everything after Anti-Christ lacked
the evil I'd come to expect from manson...


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-01 12:03 [#00202386]
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afxNUMB: well, either way its just an strong opinion, I can
manage to listen to some of his music, but I find a lot of
it [in my opinion] to be quite.. childish lyrics. Just my
thoughts, I can sit through a whole CD.... maybe. Thats
about it. I never really enjoyed his attitude, I mean he has
said some seriously good things, but then he seems to
contradict himself easily the next interview sometimes. I
dunno.... the way I see it I guess.



 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-01 12:05 [#00202388]
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He's about as scary and controversial as Huey Lewis and the
News.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-01 12:07 [#00202392]
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Yeah but being Hip To Be Square is just a million times
cooler.

;)


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2002-05-01 12:07 [#00202393]
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I like most of Mansons Videos ! But his music doesnt really
appeal to me !


 

offline sgt growley from Deal (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-01 12:09 [#00202394]
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When you get past the bullshit and image (which a lot of
people seem to like with their music) there are still some
great tracks on all those albums.
I can think of twice as many decent Manson tracks as NIN
one's ...



 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-01 12:10 [#00202396]
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Thats your opinion, I personally find, and dont understand
how anyone can not see that NINs music is [maybe not better
for your opinion] but way more in depth and well put
together. NIN is by far the better group...... I love NIN
though, so whatever.

I could really care less about Manson....


 

offline Duble0Syx from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-05-01 12:13 [#00202401]
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Even if you don't like manson (which I don't anymore) the
book written about him is very interesting. Worth ready
once at least...


 

offline Duble0Syx from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-05-01 12:15 [#00202403]
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ready= Reading


 

offline sgt growley from Deal (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-01 12:16 [#00202405]
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Yeah i can see that NIN has more depth and is a lot more
complex and personal, but maybe that's why i find it more
difficult to listen to. Maybe i'm just too shallow for
it!?...



 

offline Duble0Syx from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-05-01 12:20 [#00202411]
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I love NIN. I don't know why but in 89' I was 9 or 10 and I
bought Pretty Hate Machine when it came out. Loved nin
since the beginning...


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-01 12:23 [#00202414]
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Yeah ive loved NIN since.. well since PRETTY HATE MACHINE!


 

offline Spookyluke from United States on 2002-05-01 12:24 [#00202417]
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I hate Holy Wood and anything since I heard he wanted to
work with Slipknot. I refuse to listen to Slipknot! Ack!


 

offline Fernz from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-01 12:25 [#00202418]
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Manson...? Yeah he's a great guy! Met him once. :)


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-01 12:27 [#00202423]
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His music is for angst-ridden kids and saddo goths. I prefer
Skid Row.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2002-05-01 12:28 [#00202424]
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Goths are tasteless.


 

offline Fernz from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-01 12:32 [#00202427]
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Yeah. They seem to think they gotta dress like that and shit
because they listen to that kind of music... Odd peeps.


 

offline uzim on 2002-05-01 16:31 [#00202568]
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i love antichrist superstar and mechanical animals... these
are excellent, especially antichrist superstar, which is a
"concept album", a bit like NIN's downward spiral but with a
different story — in the downward spiral, the main
character is controlled by everything and doesn't have any
choice but to go down — in antichrist superstar, he first
suffers from the world and wants to rebel against it... and
he manages to revenge, he kinda takes control of the world,
becomes a dictator... at the end it ends bad for him, then
comes a period of peace (tracks 17 - 98), but then (track
99) it all starts again, it's an endless cycle...

(it frightens me a bit now that fascism seems to grow again,
with haider, berlusconi, and now le pen... are we heading
for a new catastrophe again?)

as for manson — imo, holy wood was an attempt to make a
mix between the two albums, and it didn't really mix well...
and tainted love was a joke...

i don't know what to expect from the golden age of the
grotesque... just wait and see...


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-01 17:21 [#00202622]
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portrait of an american family is classic, not that i could
ever stand to listen to again though. i can't judge
anything after that because by the time antichrist was out i
was moving on to some much better music.


 

offline DonkeyRhubarb from Saegertown, PA (United States) on 2002-05-01 21:56 [#00202825]
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yeah, i agree with the godhead thing
and wow! i can't understand how you'd put nin, manson and
slipknot in the same category of likeing, NUMB. Manson is
great and NOT just because of his controversy and of course
so is Trent, but Slipknot?! May i ask why?


 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-05-01 23:35 [#00202887]
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Respect going out to Marilyn Manson!


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2002-05-02 01:29 [#00202993]
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Well I like the way this thread is going, keeping it in that
NIN Manson conversation. Both are great. Antichrist
superstar is a great cd. His remix is cool too. I like how
you all agree with me and those who dont well we know just
see manson who what everyone else see's him. Not for what he
is.

Rock star image is crazy, freaking music. NIN, Manson and of
course Slipknot.


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2002-05-02 04:42 [#00203069]
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The MM O-board is fucking nuts, those people are more insane
than people here.

Yeah,he is intriguing, but I can't find many people who
respect "Beautiful People" I think it's two chords.

He has a great imagination, and his new CD, "Golden Age of
Grotesque" is supposed to be pretty "neat" though, go
figure.

Satanism is overrated


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-05-02 05:23 [#00203080]
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i love nin and manson, bu ti really think slipknot bites...i
like the lead's voice...but they have like 4 drummers, their
image isn't all that intelligent, and that clown guy really
does suck..

i dismiss them as metal, metal for the "kid rock" rebels...


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-05-02 05:25 [#00203083]
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and about the O-MM board...fucking insaiNE! i tryied hanging
out there a few times, and like 4 out of 5 times my fire
wall would go crazy from all these 12 yr old wannabe hackers
trying to fuck /w me because i prolly disagreed /w them.


 

offline Fernz from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-02 09:19 [#00203162]
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Yeah they're very scary people...


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2002-05-02 15:33 [#00203409]
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i agree, by far portrait of an american family is my
favorite manson release. but then he got rid of daisy
rameriez, the main guitarist song writer on that album due
to "creative differences." at that point the music lost
that creepy, sickley sweet, spooky carnival, pedophiliac
clown sound that made it so great. antichrist superstar had
a few good tracks but the music on that one was written more
by Twiggy giving it more of a metal sound; and it lost its
willy wonka carnival sound. that tour was incredible
though.


 

offline Narkotic from United States on 2002-05-02 15:36 [#00203412]
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i dont care how far his music went, that guy is a media
whore


 


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